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Quote:Oh wow...... You sound just like him. Why can't he/you dislike someone's views without the name calling though? Why does it have to get personal? Seriously, it's immature and just down right mean. The fact that your defense of trump is he says much worse to men is amazing.
Makes some guys feel tough. If they say it to a guy they figure they may get the piss beat out of them. So Trump hammers away at the Rosies of the world. Say it to some like , let's say, SenDerrick Marks , and he'd lose weight quick ( with his mouth wired shut)

Typically it doesn't bother guys, whereas the ladies aren't a fan of this trash talk. I guess the big difference is, this guy will represent this country and as many love his political incorrectness, it's still politics whether he likes it or not.

Must ask how will leaders of the Muslim world or women like a Merkel react to him when they meet? If you've lost any amount of respect, you're already behind the 8 ball
Quote:Makes some guys feel tough. If they say it to a guy they figure they may get the [BAD WORD REMOVED] beat out of them. So Trump hammers away at the Rosies of the world. Say it to some like , let's say, SenDerrick Marks , and he'd lose weight quick ( with his mouth wired shut)

Typically it doesn't bother guys, whereas the ladies aren't a fan of this trash talk. I guess the big difference is, this guy will represent this country and as many love his political incorrectness, it's still politics whether he likes it or not.

Must ask how will leaders of the Muslim world or women like a Merkel react to him when they meet? If you've lost any amount of respect, you're already behind the 8 ball


It's foolishness. How he's made it this far is absolutely mind boggling to me. I know this board swings wayyyyyy right and I tend to stay out of this part of the forum because it's too frustrating, but it's head shaking.
Quote:Oh wow...... You sound just like him. Why can't he/you dislike someone's views without the name calling though? Why does it have to get personal? Seriously, it's immature and just down right mean.
The fact that your defense of trump is he says much worse to men is amazing. 
 

Regarding the first part in bold.  Maybe because a certain candidate referred to people like him (Jaguar Warrior) as deplorable?

 

Regarding the part in red.  I do agree with you, but politics in today's day and age have turned to that.
Quote:It's foolishness. How he's made it this far is absolutely mind boggling to me. I know this board swings wayyyyyy right and I tend to stay out of this part of the forum because it's too frustrating, but it's head shaking.
 

Meh...  quite a few of the forums/sites that I frequent swing wayyyyy left.  I just don't let it frustrate me because people are entitled to their beliefs/opinions.
Quote:Regarding the first part in bold.  Maybe because a certain candidate referred to people like him (Jaguar Warrior) as deplorable?

 

Regarding the part in red.  I do agree with you, but politics in today's day and age have turned to that.
His biggest fans......kind of are. sorry, from what I've seen.He appeals to a certain sect, that's for darn sure.
Quote:His biggest fans......kind of are. sorry, from what I've seen.He appeals to a certain sect, that's for darn sure.


Exactly. Clinton wasn't wrong and quite frankly it hasn't hurt her poll numbers!
Quote:His biggest fans......kind of are. sorry, from what I've seen.He appeals to a certain sect, that's for darn sure.
 

It's all about perspective.  Just like Obama appealed to a "certain sect" saying that they cling to their "bibles and guns".  Is that not offensive to some people?  Hillary calling Trump supporters "deplorable".  Is that not offensive?  It goes both ways.

 

Just because something is offensive to you doesn't mean that it's offensive to everyone.
Quote:His biggest fans......kind of are. sorry, from what I've seen.He appeals to a certain sect, that's for darn sure.
Quote:Exactly. Clinton wasn't wrong and quite frankly it hasn't hurt her poll numbers!
 

Exhibit A.

 

Clinton can offend millions of people and she isn't "wrong" according to a "certain sect".  That "certain sect" agreeing with that is kind of... sorry.

 

It seems that the party of "equality and diversity" is only for equality for their select "diverse" part of the population. 
Quote:Exhibit A.


Clinton can offend millions of people and she isn't "wrong" according to a "certain sect". That "certain sect" agreeing with that is kind of... sorry.


It seems that the party of "equality and diversity" is only for equality for their select "diverse" part of the population.


That's a crock and you know it.


Where is the diversity in the trump followers? I mean to their ticket Mexicans are things as Mike so eloquently told the nation last nite.


Hell let's stop and frisk everyone does not look like me.


Hell Donald can't even admit he was wrong about the Central Park 5!
Quote:Oh wow...... You sound just like him. Why can't he/you dislike someone's views without the name calling though? Why does it have to get personal? Seriously, it's immature and just down right mean. The fact that your defense of trump is he says much worse to men is amazing. 
 

Whoa, what did I say that was untruthful? Was Alicia fat by modeling standards and her contract requirements? Yup. Was she murderous? Threatening to kill a judge and being accomplice to murder makes me believe she was. Was she Venezuelan? Check. As for the other three, yeah they are terrible. Does that really hurt your feelings so much?

 

Hillary Clinton called us basement dwellers, deplorable, and irredeemable. Rosie and Arianna have said equally offensive things. It was personal way before I said anything "offensive" about them.

 

Stop getting your panties in a wad.

Quote:Whoa, what did I say that was untruthful? Was Alicia fat by modeling standards and her contract requirements? Yup. Was she murderous? Threatening to kill a judge and being accomplice to murder makes me believe she was. Was she Venezuelan? Check. As for the other three, yeah they are terrible. Does that really hurt your feelings so much?


Hillary Clinton called us basement dwellers, deplorable, and irredeemable. Rosie and Arianna have said equally offensive things. It was personal way before I said anything "offensive" about them.


Stop getting your panties in a wad.


I'm calling you out on the contract. I don't believe for a second that her contract stipulated weight requirements. Who dictates fat? Trump claimed she gained 50 pounds others associated with her claimed 15.
Quote:That's a crock and you know it.


Where is the diversity in the trump followers? I mean to their ticket Mexicans are things as Mike so eloquently told the nation last nite.


Hell let's stop and frisk everyone does not look like me.


Hell Donald can't even admit he was wrong about the Central Park 5!
 

It's not a crock.

 

There are plenty of Trump supporters from all walks of life.  I happen to know of one on this very board that is a computer programmer (I think) that isn't the "uneducated" that the left tries to label his supporters.  Is someone with a college degree, a full time worker that pays taxes "deplorable" just because they support him?  My own brother happens to be both a minority and gay.  He also happens to have a Master's Degree and also works and pays taxes.  He supports Trump.  Is he "deplorable"?  I can go on a list several others from a diverse cross-section of the American public that support Trump.

 

Why lump all illegal aliens as Mexicans?  Do you really think that all illegal aliens are Mexican?

 

Did stop and frisk work in New York City?
Quote:I'm calling you out on the contract. I don't believe for a second that her contract stipulated weight requirements. Who dictates fat? Trump claimed she gained 50 pounds others associated with her claimed 15.
 

I believe there is an "image" clause. It is of course subjective in nature, but considering there have been no 160 lb Miss Universe winners, I imagine being 50 lbs over your winning weight breaks that clause.
Quote:It's all about perspective.  Just like Obama appealed to a "certain sect" saying that they cling to their "bibles and guns".  Is that not offensive to some people?  Hillary calling Trump supporters "deplorable".  Is that not offensive?  It goes both ways.

 

Just because something is offensive to you doesn't mean that it's offensive to everyone.
 

The problem is Donald Trump only appeals to his own sect, while Hillary Clinton appeals to most people in the left wing. Trump has clearly shown many times he does not care about anyone except rich businessen.
Quote:I'm calling you out on the contract. I don't believe for a second that her contract stipulated weight requirements. Who dictates fat? Trump claimed she gained 50 pounds others associated with her claimed 15.
 

Who really cares?  Clinton offends millions of people and you call it a "crock" when called out on it.  Trump offends some model so that means that all of his supporters are "deplorable".
Quote:The problem is Donald Trump only appeals to his own sect, while Hillary Clinton appeals to most people in the left wing. Trump has clearly shown many times he does not care about anyone except rich businessen.
 

Hillary Clinton appeals to wall-street. I don't know a single lefty who is voting for her because she appeals to left-wing policies, but only because she is either:

 

1) not Donald Trump

or

2) A Democrat
Quote:The problem is Donald Trump only appeals to his own sect, while Hillary Clinton appeals to most people in the left wing. Trump has clearly shown many times he does not care about anyone except rich businessen.
 

Regarding the part in bold, I have to disagree with you.  Much of my family is "left wing" yet because Hillary Clinton is the Democrat nominee, they are for the first time in their lives voting for a Republican.
Quote:I'm calling you out on the contract. I don't believe for a second that her contract stipulated weight requirements. Who dictates fat? Trump claimed she gained 50 pounds others associated with her claimed 15.


She was Miss Universe...you can bet your bottom dollar there was an image clause in her contract. She probably would have had to have their permission to change her hairstyle if she wanted to in the year of her reign! And you can look at her pictures of when she won her title, and at her heaviest during that year, it was definitely more than 15 pounds.


That being said, it doesn't excuse him calling her names because of her weight gain.
Quote:Hillary Clinton appeals to wall-street. I don't know a single lefty who is voting for her because she appeals to left-wing policies, but only because she is either:

 

1) not Donald Trump

or

2) A Democrat
 

Used in that context, I am a "lefty" but being right-handed, I never call myself that. i would vote for her no matter who the Republican candidate was because she is a Democrat but I also like the fact that she has a lot of experience - former first lady, U.S. Senator, and Secretary of State - while Donald Trump is a political newbie. I voted for Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama in the 2008 primaries partly because she had a big experience advantage after living in the White House for eight years. So for me it is both, being a Democrat and not being Donald Trump.
Quote:She was Miss Universe...you can bet your bottom dollar there was an image clause in her contract. She probably would have had to have their permission to change her hairstyle if she wanted to in the year of her reign! And you can look at her pictures of when she won her title, and at her heaviest during that year, it was definitely more than 15 pounds.

That being said, it doesn't excuse him calling her names because of her weight gain.
 

And that is what is so important when selecting a President?
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