04-28-2019, 02:31 AM
Who are the current drafted / signed TE's and WR's on the team? I was hoping for TE Hockenburg and a WR, but overall i think we did a good job in the draft.
Thoughts?
GO JAGS!
-Jake
Thoughts?
GO JAGS!
-Jake
(04-28-2019, 06:55 AM)JagDelRio Wrote: [ -> ]WR:
Marqise LeeKeelan ColeDede WestbrookChris ConleyDJ Chark
TE:
Geoff Swaim
Ben Koyack
Josh Oliver
(04-28-2019, 03:46 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ](04-28-2019, 06:55 AM)JagDelRio Wrote: [ -> ]WR:
Marqise LeeKeelan ColeDede WestbrookChris ConleyDJ Chark
TE:
Geoff Swaim
Ben Koyack
Josh Oliver
There's also a 1st-year player from Chatanooga-Tennessee named CJ Board on there I never heard of.
I pretty much see Westbrook and Conley rotating as the #2 WR with Lee working mostly in the slot where he seems to have some success on his crosses and can get physical inside with his blocking. It's tough realizing Lee is costing us $9 mil this year, but the way his contract was structured there's nothing we can do but keep him at that cost. According to Jimmy Smith, he feels DJ Chark has #1 WR traits and the tall WR should develop outside where he used to play at split end.
At TE you forgot about O'Shaughnessy. There's also a first-year player from Florida Intl named Pharoah McKever I never heard of.
It looks like Swaim is going to be the guy with O'Shaug coming in as more of a receiving specialist. Koyack will probably come in more as a #2 WR when they need an extra blocker, and Oliver will pretty much backup O'Shaug until he learns to block and can threaten to start.
(04-28-2019, 05:37 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Their confidence in who we have at WR is pretty questionable imo....I'd have been quite happy about a WR addition with the 5th or 6th round picks, but I have much more confidence that the current corps will produce just fine in a new offense with a competent QB.
(04-28-2019, 05:37 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Their confidence in who we have at WR is pretty questionable imo. Really think we should have found a way to grab those WRs once they started falling
(04-28-2019, 05:45 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ](04-28-2019, 05:37 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Their confidence in who we have at WR is pretty questionable imo....I'd have been quite happy about a WR addition with the 5th or 6th round picks, but I have much more confidence that the current corps will produce just fine in a new offense with a competent QB.
(04-28-2019, 05:48 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ](04-28-2019, 05:37 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Their confidence in who we have at WR is pretty questionable imo. Really think we should have found a way to grab those WRs once they started falling
Our draft instantly goes up a full letter grade for me if we take Boykin instead of Oliver and Moreau instead of Williams.
(04-28-2019, 06:03 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]If you operate on the assumptions that Lee will be a non-factor and Chark won't make a step forward in development, then sure.(04-28-2019, 05:45 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I'd have been quite happy about a WR addition with the 5th or 6th round picks, but I have much more confidence that the current corps will produce just fine in a new offense with a competent QB.
its a bottom 10 unit in the league so I was hoping they'd at least get a starting big possession WR to have some extra skillsets out there. Dede is the only one I think DCs will care about much
(04-28-2019, 05:23 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ](04-28-2019, 03:46 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]There's also a 1st-year player from Chatanooga-Tennessee named CJ Board on there I never heard of.
I pretty much see Westbrook and Conley rotating as the #2 WR with Lee working mostly in the slot where he seems to have some success on his crosses and can get physical inside with his blocking. It's tough realizing Lee is costing us $9 mil this year, but the way his contract was structured there's nothing we can do but keep him at that cost. According to Jimmy Smith, he feels DJ Chark has #1 WR traits and the tall WR should develop outside where he used to play at split end.
At TE you forgot about O'Shaughnessy. There's also a first-year player from Florida Intl named Pharoah McKever I never heard of.
It looks like Swaim is going to be the guy with O'Shaug coming in as more of a receiving specialist. Koyack will probably come in more as a #2 WR when they need an extra blocker, and Oliver will pretty much backup O'Shaug until he learns to block and can threaten to start.
Oliver will be utilized immediately in the passing game.
In fact, I'd wager the snap count order will rank thusly:
Oliver
Swaim
O'Shaugnessy
Koyack (if he makes the roster)
O'Shaugnessy is valued on ST as well, and I'd wager that was a big part of him being re-signed. I don't think he figures prominently into offensive plans. He's a ST guy and a depth TE.
I'm totally cool with the TE group and the WR corps. I think they'll do well with Foles and DeFilippo.
(04-28-2019, 06:03 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Hakeem over Quincy could have been done so easily
(04-28-2019, 06:15 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ](04-28-2019, 06:03 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]its a bottom 10 unit in the league so I was hoping they'd at least get a starting big possession WR to have some extra skillsets out there. Dede is the only one I think DCs will care about muchIf you operate on the assumptions that Lee will be a non-factor and Chark won't make a step forward in development, then sure.
I'm not assuming those things.
(04-28-2019, 06:15 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ](04-28-2019, 06:03 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]its a bottom 10 unit in the league so I was hoping they'd at least get a starting big possession WR to have some extra skillsets out there. Dede is the only one I think DCs will care about muchIf you operate on the assumptions that Lee will be a non-factor and Chark won't make a step forward in development, then sure.
I'm not assuming those things.
(04-29-2019, 01:56 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]Why is everyone still complaining about passing on number of those WR. Every team passed on those guys multiple times. Maybe there is reasons for that.
Also, most WR's make their biggest jump in impact in year 2 and 3, not their rookie year. If they are trying to bring in players for biggest impact this season, they probably felt they would not beat out their current WR's this year.
(04-29-2019, 02:19 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ](04-29-2019, 01:56 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]Why is everyone still complaining about passing on number of those WR. Every team passed on those guys multiple times. Maybe there is reasons for that.
Also, most WR's make their biggest jump in impact in year 2 and 3, not their rookie year. If they are trying to bring in players for biggest impact this season, they probably felt they would not beat out their current WR's this year.
Not every team has a collection of skill players as bad as ours , most don't in fact so its more in our interest to take shots on WRs, especially when we have a dire need of a specific kind of WR. They don't have to be world beaters, just one of the few critques you can pick out from our draft which was generally very good
(04-29-2019, 02:34 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote: [ -> ](04-29-2019, 02:19 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Not every team has a collection of skill players as bad as ours , most don't in fact so its more in our interest to take shots on WRs, especially when we have a dire need of a specific kind of WR. They don't have to be world beaters, just one of the few critques you can pick out from our draft which was generally very good
Hakeem Butler and/or Jazz Ferguson would've added that missing contested catch piece. Oh well. I guess they want Chark to have every opportunity to be that guy.