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Quote: Per a league source, defensive end Yannick Ngakoue ,has been absent from the workouts. He showed up for the first few days, and he then left.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...-workouts/

Not a concern. He showed up. Reported in. And he checked out. He'll get paid this year. By all accounts he's never been too talkative nor a locker room cancer.

(05-02-2019, 01:01 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Not a concern. He showed up. Reported in. And he checked out. He'll get paid this year. By all accounts he's never been too talkative nor a locker room cancer.

nonsense, it's modis time and you know it.

He's just playing the game.

He wants more money. I have no doubt he will show up and show out for this team this year.

I think his tweet hints that he's disgruntled at least, if not holding out officially (can't really be considered a hold out during voluntary stuff).

Hopefully we pay him and get a bit of a discount for doing it a year early, like the Vikings did with Danielle Hunter. If we wanted to we could play hard ball and make him play this year on his rookie deal and then franchise him a year or two before giving him a long term deal. I think giving him a deal now should come with a bit of a compromise financially.

As he should.

Time to bring in Keanu and the scabs...

I can't imagine Ngakoue holding out during regular season stuff. I imagine the Crowell injury is fueling his agent pretty well.

Personally I'd rather extend him now anyway. If he comes out and has a 15+ sack year, his price tag is going way up.

Getting Dareus, Campbell, and Lee off the books next year will be so critical to keeping Jalen, Yan, and Myles. Between the 3 of them is $40 million in cap savings. Yan and Jalen should get $20 mil each and the cap will go up each year too

I can't believe how people get so lathered up over veterans missing the first phase of OTA's.  It's nothing more than working out and rehab.  It's not like they are in team meetings or on the practice field.

(05-02-2019, 01:30 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]Getting Dareus, Campbell, and Lee off the books next year will be so critical to keeping Jalen, Yan, and Myles. Between the 3 of them is $40 million in cap savings. Yan and Jalen should get $20 mil each and the cap will go up each year too

If we pay Ramsey 5 mil more than the highest paid corner we will be in cap hell. We could just franchise him

(05-02-2019, 01:54 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-02-2019, 01:30 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]Getting Dareus, Campbell, and Lee off the books next year will be so critical to keeping Jalen, Yan, and Myles. Between the 3 of them is $40 million in cap savings. Yan and Jalen should get $20 mil each and the cap will go up each year too

If we pay Ramsey 5 mil more than the highest paid corner we will be in cap hell.  We could just franchise him

How do you figure? Franchising him makes financial sense but he isn't a guy I want to piss off. Just pay him, he's obviously worth it. The NFL salary cap increased $14 million just this year... We only have 1 player under contract making $16 million or more as of now for 2021 and it's our QB. We could even cut him and save $14.5 million if we draft a rookie between now and 2021 (which seems likely). I wouldn't be worried, these are guys we need to build around, not extraneous pieces

(05-02-2019, 02:06 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-02-2019, 01:54 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]If we pay Ramsey 5 mil more than the highest paid corner we will be in cap hell.  We could just franchise him

How do you figure? Franchising him makes financial sense but he isn't a guy I want to piss off. Just pay him, he's obviously worth it. The NFL salary cap increased $14 million just this year... We only have 1 player under contract making $16 million or more as of now for 2021 and it's our QB. We could even cut him and save $14.5 million if we draft a rookie between now and 2021 (which seems likely). I wouldn't be worried, these are guys we need to build around, not extraneous pieces

Just pay him?  The highest paid corner in the league is making 15 mil a year and we should just pay him 20 mil a year because hes worth it?  God no, that's how you get in cap hell, and no he isn't worth 20 mil a year.  He isn't prime, Champ, or Revis in their prime and last year he wasn't even a top 5 corner but we should pay him. 5 mil more than the highest paid corner? Oh boy.

(05-02-2019, 02:20 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-02-2019, 02:06 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]How do you figure? Franchising him makes financial sense but he isn't a guy I want to piss off. Just pay him, he's obviously worth it. The NFL salary cap increased $14 million just this year... We only have 1 player under contract making $16 million or more as of now for 2021 and it's our QB. We could even cut him and save $14.5 million if we draft a rookie between now and 2021 (which seems likely). I wouldn't be worried, these are guys we need to build around, not extraneous pieces

Just pay him?  The highest paid corner in the league is making 15 mil a year and we should just pay him 20 mil a year because hes worth it?  God no, that's how you get in cap hell, and no he isn't worth 20 mil a year.  He isn't prime, Champ, or Revis in their prime and last year he wasn't even a top 5 corner but we should pay him. 5 mil more than the highest paid corner? Oh boy.

Well Ramsey hasn't hit his prime yet sooooooo....

(05-02-2019, 02:20 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-02-2019, 02:06 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]How do you figure? Franchising him makes financial sense but he isn't a guy I want to piss off. Just pay him, he's obviously worth it. The NFL salary cap increased $14 million just this year... We only have 1 player under contract making $16 million or more as of now for 2021 and it's our QB. We could even cut him and save $14.5 million if we draft a rookie between now and 2021 (which seems likely). I wouldn't be worried, these are guys we need to build around, not extraneous pieces

Just pay him?  The highest paid corner in the league is making 15 mil a year and we should just pay him 20 mil a year because hes worth it?  God no, that's how you get in cap hell, and no he isn't worth 20 mil a year.  He isn't prime, Champ, or Revis in their prime and last year he wasn't even a top 5 corner but we should pay him. 5 mil more than the highest paid corner? Oh boy.

Ah yes, the ol' "He's not a Top 3 CB in NFL history after THREE seasons, just let him go" argument. Maybe $20 million is a little much, but it'll be over $15m/year... The cap is steadily increasing and with it so should salaries.

How quickly we forget the days of Davon House, Derek Cox, and Dwayne Gratz

(05-02-2019, 02:29 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-02-2019, 02:20 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Just pay him?  The highest paid corner in the league is making 15 mil a year and we should just pay him 20 mil a year because hes worth it?  God no, that's how you get in cap hell, and no he isn't worth 20 mil a year.  He isn't prime, Champ, or Revis in their prime and last year he wasn't even a top 5 corner but we should pay him. 5 mil more than the highest paid corner? Oh boy.

Well Ramsey hasn't hit his prime yet sooooooo....

I hope not

Nowadays and with the cap increasing every year, the pay scale will keep increasing. We may be able to pay Ramsey less than 20 a year. But if it requires it, you pay it. He plays a pivotal role in our defense and is a cornerstone player. His play came down last year, but so did everyone else; minus maybe Campbell. You cannot just let a player like him go and we all know the franchise tag can just delay the inevitable if played incorrectly. The same could be said about Yannick. We have to pay and keep these cornerstone players.

(05-02-2019, 01:54 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-02-2019, 01:30 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]Getting Dareus, Campbell, and Lee off the books next year will be so critical to keeping Jalen, Yan, and Myles. Between the 3 of them is $40 million in cap savings. Yan and Jalen should get $20 mil each and the cap will go up each year too

If we pay Ramsey 5 mil more than the highest paid corner we will be in cap hell.  We could just franchise him

If we pay him that type of money, I hope that comes with a new defensive coordinator who will never use him in zone coverage.

(05-02-2019, 01:30 PM)JNev Wrote: [ -> ]Getting Dareus, Campbell, and Lee off the books next year will be so critical to keeping Jalen, Yan, and Myles. Between the 3 of them is $40 million in cap savings. Yan and Jalen should get $20 mil each and the cap will go up each year too

I'm not ready to call Myles Jack someone we have to keep, talented as he is

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Ramsey should get a few mil less than 20M, Yannick should get a bit more than 20M. 40M combined is a fair estimate.