(05-13-2019, 04:16 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not advocating trading for Rudolph. I was attempting to answer a question.
I'm not certain what he's looking for.
I think Oliver will be a real contributor as a move TE before we reach the bye-week if not right away - and I like Swaim in the in-line role.
I also like that they seem to be looking for a good lead-blocking H-Back.
I'm not feeling desperate at the TE spot, but it is a bit thin on paper since we are counting on youth and a couple of journeymen types to perform.
Rudolph wouldn't make financial sense for the Jags unless the vikes release him - and even then some team will likely want to pay him more than the Jags can responsibly offer.
You may not be advocating for Rudolph, but I am. He's precisely what we need, and we can figure out the finances especially if money is freed up for Telvin. I'd rather not have to trade for Rudolph, but I'm fine even giving up a 5th round pick to get him.
I'd also like to see them sign S Tre Flowers and/or extend Ngakoue.
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I'm losing track of names- Trey Flowers is the DE from NE who went to Detroit as a FA and Dimitri Flowers was a FB we released I think and Ereck Flowers was the OL bust we had. Did you mean Tre
Boston here?
(05-14-2019, 06:38 AM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2019, 04:16 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not advocating trading for Rudolph. I was attempting to answer a question.
I'm not certain what he's looking for.
I think Oliver will be a real contributor as a move TE before we reach the bye-week if not right away - and I like Swaim in the in-line role.
I also like that they seem to be looking for a good lead-blocking H-Back.
I'm not feeling desperate at the TE spot, but it is a bit thin on paper since we are counting on youth and a couple of journeymen types to perform.
Rudolph wouldn't make financial sense for the Jags unless the vikes release him - and even then some team will likely want to pay him more than the Jags can responsibly offer.
You may not be advocating for Rudolph, but I am. He's precisely what we need, and we can figure out the finances especially if money is freed up for Telvin. I'd rather not have to trade for Rudolph, but I'm fine even giving up a 5th round pick to get him.
I'd also like to see them sign S Tre Flowers Boston and/or extend Ngakoue.
You may be able to figure out a way to bring Rudolph in on a two year deal, but you probably aren't going to do that AND extend Ngakoue.
Take a look at the top TE salaries,
https://overthecap.com/position/tight-end/.
Then look at Rudoplh's production over the past three years. How much do you think he'd cost annually as a FA or after a trade and restructure?
I think getting him for two years at $6.5 million per year would probably be the best bargain possible.
(05-14-2019, 04:02 PM)Jags02 Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks...
I did mean Boston.
(05-14-2019, 10:12 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]You may be able to figure out a way to bring Rudolph in on a two year deal, but you probably aren't going to do that AND extend Ngakoue.
Take a look at the top TE salaries, https://overthecap.com/position/tight-end/.
Then look at Rudoplh's production over the past three years. How much do you think he'd cost annually as a FA or after a trade and restructure?
I think getting him for two years at $6.5 million per year would probably be the best bargain possible.
He's easily better than some of those TEs costing $10 mil so getting him for this year at $7.625 mil is a heck of a deal.
I don't think 7.25 mil is too pricey for the player.
I don't know what the Jags intentions are with the Ngakoue deal though. And I'm not eager to give up a draft pick either.
It's an interesting value conundrum for me. I think Rudolph helps this offense for sure.
But I'd rather see Ngakoue's deal get done if it comes down to one or the other. And I think they should guard their picks moving forward to help replenish positions with aging or overpaid players.
(05-07-2019, 03:15 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah - I'm bored.
OFFENSE:
WR (X) - Chark / Conley (P.S. Tyre Brady)
WR (Y) - Westbrook / Cole / Lee
WR (Z) - Lee / Westbrook / Cole / (P.S. - Michael Walker)
LT - Robinson / Wells
LG - Norwell / Shatley / Stallings
C -- Linder / Shatley
RG - Cann / Richardson / Stallings
RT - Taylor / Wells / Richardson
TE (F) Oliver / O'Shaughnessy
TE (Y) Swaim / Koyack (wouldn't be surprised by a different name than Koyack here come August)
QB - Foles / Minshew (#2 QB is a toss up right now but I'll guess the rookie wins it)
RB - Fournette / Armstead / Cunningham / Blue
DEFENSE:
DE (weak side): Ngakoue / Allen / McCray / Smoot
NT: Dareus / Jones / Ankou
DT: Bryan / Dareus / Campbell
DE (strong side): Campbell / Allen / Smoot
WLB - Smith / Williams / DJ Alexander
MLB - Jack / Ryan
SAM - Ryan / Allen / Jacobs
CB - Ramsey / Bouye / Hayden / Meeks / Herndon
SS - Harrison - Reavis
FS - Wilson - Davis - (Wingard - P.S.)
ST:
P - Cooke
K - Lambo
LS - Overton
KR - Chark / Westbrook / Cunningham
PR - Westbrook / Chark
First unofficial depth chart is out:
https://www.jaguars.com/team/depth-chart