Jones will be the back up BIG End behind Campbell.
(08-19-2019, 04:51 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2019/8/16/...arterbacks
I am not writing off Taven Bryan yet, but as it stands now, I'd rather start Jones (among others) over him.
Thursday should provide some additional time to evaluate both players. I do think Taven will look better with the starting defensive players. I am a firm believer in starting the best player, so at this point, I would not pencil in either as the starter.
(08-19-2019, 06:19 PM)dennisp3 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-19-2019, 04:51 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2019/8/16/...arterbacks
I am not writing off Taven Bryan yet, but as it stands now, I'd rather start Jones (among others) over him.
Thursday should provide some additional time to evaluate both players. I do think Taven will look better with the starting defensive players. I am a firm believer in starting the best player, so at this point, I would not pencil in either as the starter.
But how much time should he get with the ones?
If we are talking passing downs, he wouldn't start inside over Calais or Dareus.
I don't think he starts over Abry Jones.
That puts him 4th at best.
I don't think he starts over Datone Jones, and maybe not even over Eli Ankou.
So what is the lowest on the depth chart he cloud be and still remain on the team in your eyes?
(08-19-2019, 08:11 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: [ -> ] (08-19-2019, 07:30 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]But how much time should he get with the ones?
If we are talking passing downs, he wouldn't start inside over Calais or Dareus.
I don't think he starts over Abry Jones.
That puts him 4th at best.
I don't think he starts over Datone Jones, and maybe not even over Eli Ankou.
So what is the lowest on the depth chart he cloud be and still remain on the team in your eyes?
Campbell and Datone are big ends. Dareus and Abry are nose tackles. The Jags could choose to start Dareus and Abry instead of a 3T like they did last season, but with Jackson gone Taven is the only true 3T.
It will be interesting to see who Marrone starts Thursday.
I would say Dareus is more of a true nose than Abry Jones, but he had most of his success as a 3T
At this point, yes Datone Jones is the backup big end to Campbell.
My earlier analysis was on the inside positions, but nothing really changes viewing Bryan as the big end.
Campbell easily starts over Bryan. D Jones also starts over him.
In an obvious pas rush situation, Campbell goes inside, and Ngakoue, Allen, and McCray all play before Bryan outside, and based on this year, Smoot would even be better.
At this stage, about the one thing that distinguishes Bryan from Alualu is power.
We need Ngakoue and Allen on the outside as much as possible. Every mobile QB killed us bootlegging towards Campbell's side because he just doesn't have to speed the contain them.
Smoot might get the boot. A casualty of Bryan's play combined with Jones' Too early to ax such a high investment in Taven.
(08-19-2019, 08:53 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (08-19-2019, 08:11 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: [ -> ]Campbell and Datone are big ends. Dareus and Abry are nose tackles. The Jags could choose to start Dareus and Abry instead of a 3T like they did last season, but with Jackson gone Taven is the only true 3T.
It will be interesting to see who Marrone starts Thursday.
I would say Dareus is more of a true nose than Abry Jones, but he had most of his success as a 3T
At this point, yes Datone Jones is the backup big end to Campbell.
My earlier analysis was on the inside positions, but nothing really changes viewing Bryan as the big end.
Campbell easily starts over Bryan. D Jones also starts over him.
In an obvious pas rush situation, Campbell goes inside, and Ngakoue, Allen, and McCray all play before Bryan outside, and based on this year, Smoot would even be better.
At this stage, about the one thing that distinguishes Bryan from Alualu is power.
Power is certainly one aspect of his game, but I think your analysis of Bryan is a little harsh at this point playing with the backups. Marrone seems very pleased with him so far in camp and I am not ready to make a judgment on his performance until I see him this week. One thing for sure as you pointed out he has a lot of competition D Jones and Smoot elevating thier games this year and this may be a make or break year for him.
Why because he was left unblocked and hurt the QB?
Id like to think an unblocked Bryan could have done the same
(08-20-2019, 10:25 AM)JaguarJosh05 Wrote: [ -> ]Why because he was left unblocked and hurt the QB?
No, because if you paid attention he has been playing much better than Smoot. Jones isn't here to uproot Bryan at 3T, although, he could keep him out of that 3rd down big end role.
(08-20-2019, 12:29 PM)B2hibry Wrote: [ -> ] (08-20-2019, 10:25 AM)JaguarJosh05 Wrote: [ -> ]Why because he was left unblocked and hurt the QB?
No, because if you paid attention he has been playing much better than Smoot. Jones isn't here to uproot Bryan at 3T, although, he could keep him out of that 3rd down big end role.
He can play 3 tech too which gives them a good few options there