(03-05-2020, 12:21 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (03-05-2020, 12:10 PM)MoJagFan Wrote: [ -> ]Does this look like a win now plan? I think they can sell ice cream to eskimos with their fake pronouncements. They have the city over a barrel and are leveraging the fans with London.
To be fair, the only part of this "plan" we've seen thus far is a couple of good hires in Gruden and McAdoo and a few released players that most of us predicted would be cap cuts.
We need to see what happens in free agency and the draft before we can have any real opinion on "the plan."
The potential to improve this roster is very real. It just remains to be seen whether they can pull it off and whether the current staff can prepare the team to compete effectively after the facelift is complete.
Fans understandably have little to no confidence in either of these things happening, but they've hardly even begun the process.
I am going to hold off until after free agency and the draft. Then we will have a better idea on the direction of the 2020 season. Honestly, if Minshew does what I think he can do, we can turn this around in 1 season. If he doesn't and is a 1 year wonder, then there will be even more changes next year.
I forget, why did we bring in Coughlin again?
(03-05-2020, 04:55 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]I forget, why did we bring in Coughlin again?
Perceived Nostalgia. Perceived improvement of ticket sales. More reasons to shield Teflon David Caldwell from scrutiny.
Can you imagine destroying your place of employment and being able to blame someone else for doing it?
I've got a very strong feeling that Khan has already told Caldwell that at least he will be back in 2021 regardless of what's happening with Marrone. A man who knows that his job is at stake in December doesn't set up the fire sale tent in March.
(03-05-2020, 05:46 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]I've got a very strong feeling that Khan has already told Caldwell that at least he will be back in 2021 regardless of what's happening with Marrone. A man who knows that his job is at stake in December doesn't set up the fire sale tent in March.
Wouldn't be surprised at all
(03-05-2020, 07:38 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (03-04-2020, 09:34 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think he can go wrong with any of the common players mocked at #9, whether Okudah, Brown, Simmons, Kinlaw, or Wirfs. They all seem very safe and commendable picks. Let's just form our own committee here and advise him to take one of those guys.
Joke was a lauded pick, there are no guarantees. People like the OP get the bennys of 20/20 hindsight.
Exactly, I had no problems with them drafting Joeckel it just didn't work out and that injury his rookie year + making him play RT just curtailed his development.
Cyprien was a "handcuff pick" Gus Bradley flat out DEMANDED a SS be drafted high as he needed his version of Kam Chancellor to implement the Seattle Cover-3 scheme. That was published ad nausem back then. I believe they were targetting Matt Elam who was drafted the pick before but reached for Cyprien after he was taken. Caldwell also mentioned in an interview that they strongly STRONGLY considered drafting Darius Slay as his individual workout was extremely impressive.
Caldwell has always had an eye for talent, but bc of the other influences he hasn't been able to stick to his guns as much as he would've liked. He was on record when he was hired saying that he didn't believe Gus Bradley was the right fit for the job but since Shad was head over heels for his "just get BETTER" approach that Caldwell had little to no say, and faced pressure to go offboard to draft players for his particular schemes rather than on pure talent or glaring needs (how we ended up with Dwayne Gratz because he had the arm length they prefer in a corner) I'm willing to give Caldwell another shot at this thing, bc right after Bradley was ousted, they brought in TC to further undermine him.
(03-05-2020, 07:38 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (03-04-2020, 09:34 PM)TheDogCatcher Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think he can go wrong with any of the common players mocked at #9, whether Okudah, Brown, Simmons, Kinlaw, or Wirfs. They all seem very safe and commendable picks. Let's just form our own committee here and advise him to take one of those guys.
Joke was a lauded pick, there are no guarantees. People like the OP get the bennys of 20/20 hindsight.
Dude if it was one pick, I would cut him a break. It's most of his high round picks. Lets get real here.
(03-05-2020, 12:13 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (03-05-2020, 12:05 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]If he fixes the offensive line and finds a decent weapon at TE, I believe this team can most definitely compete next season.
2013 If he fixes the offensive line and finds a decent weapon at TE, I believe this team can most definitely compete next season.
2014 If he fixes the offensive line and finds a decent weapon at TE, I believe this team can most definitely compete next season.
2015 If he fixes the offensive line and finds a decent weapon at TE, I believe this team can most definitely compete next season.
2016 If he fixes the offensive line and finds a decent weapon at TE, I believe this team can most definitely compete next season.
2017 If he fixes the offensive line and finds a decent weapon at TE, I believe this team can most definitely compete next season.
2018 If he fixes the offensive line and finds a decent weapon at TE, I believe this team can most definitely compete next season.
2019 If he fixes the offensive line and finds a decent weapon at TE, I believe this team can most definitely compete next season.
2020 If he fixes the offensive line and finds a decent weapon at TE, I believe this team can most definitely compete next season.
Yep. Pretty spot on except for all those other years I’d add QB. I think Minshew can make plays so... give the kid a shot.
(03-05-2020, 04:55 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]I forget, why did we bring in Coughlin again?
To order lunch faster or eat faster. Something about lunch. Whatever it was, definitely didn’t help on the field. That’s for sure.
(03-05-2020, 04:55 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]I forget, why did we bring in Coughlin again?
To baby sit Caldwell.
(03-05-2020, 09:12 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ] (03-05-2020, 04:55 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]I forget, why did we bring in Coughlin again?
To baby sit Caldwell.
Which was silly. Coughlin had proved the first time he was here he was a terrible front office guy.
Caldwell is a great drafter, plain and simple. Some of you just like the sound of your keyboard smoking
(03-06-2020, 02:33 PM)JaG4LyFe Wrote: [ -> ]Caldwell is a great drafter, plain and simple. Some of you just like the sound of your keyboard smoking
Not great, but certainly pretty good. The reason this team lacks talent isn't because he did't bring it here, it's because the coaches couldn't use it right and Coughlin ran a bunch of it off.
(03-05-2020, 07:15 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ] (03-05-2020, 07:38 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Joke was a lauded pick, there are no guarantees. People like the OP get the bennys of 20/20 hindsight.
Dude if it was one pick, I would cut him a break. It's most of his high round picks. Lets get real here.
Bull [BLEEP]. It was two, Joke and Borts. You should "get real."
I find it funny we brought in Coughlin after Caldwell's best draft ever.
(03-07-2020, 12:43 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]I find it funny we brought in Coughlin after Caldwell's best draft ever.
Great point!
That is strong evidence that my theory that Coughlin was brought in to take over Khan's day to day tasks (and not to replace or oversee Caldwell) is correct.
(03-05-2020, 11:36 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Tony Khan is the GM of this franchise. Caldwell is just the dunce figurehead. It's the only reason Shad keeps him around.
Tony Khan isn't ready to be the GM of the Jaguars. He needs more valuable experiences w/respect to recognizing and selecting talent true. His time Will come.
Time Will Tell.
NH3...
Dave has had some good drafts, and not just because the Jags picked high most years. He has found talent in the lower rounds pretty consistently. I'm anxious to see what Dave can do with lots of picks in a deep draft.