(03-24-2020, 03:34 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]This is pretty much what a standard FA period looks like for teams. Dave's record spending limitless pocketbook of the previous few years that built us a talented but extremely hollow team is the extreme outlier.
The big FA expenditures have TC written all over them.
(03-25-2020, 12:40 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (03-24-2020, 03:34 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]This is pretty much what a standard FA period looks like for teams. Dave's record spending limitless pocketbook of the previous few years that built us a talented but extremely hollow team is the extreme outlier.
The big FA expenditures have TC written all over them.
It's like people dont remember the 2002-2003 seasons.
OP, given that we started the offseason with negative cap space, what exactly did you envision FA to look like?
Which of these signings have the potential to be an albatross hanging from the team's neck in two years? Just because they're not big-name signings doesn't mean they're not good signings.
I'd venture that more of our big-name signings have flopped than not.
(03-25-2020, 12:40 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (03-24-2020, 03:34 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]This is pretty much what a standard FA period looks like for teams. Dave's record spending limitless pocketbook of the previous few years that built us a talented but extremely hollow team is the extreme outlier.
The big FA expenditures have TC written all over them.
That doesn't appear to be rooted in truth to me.
The year before Tom came back Dave spent oodles on Malik, Ivory, Amukamara, Gipson, and Beachum. The year before that he made Julius Thomas and Parnell top paid players at their positions...in addition to significant money paid to Odrick, Skuta, House, etc. The year before that was Beadles, Gerhart, Clemons and more.
Dave has a plenty long track record of dumping huge money in FA before Coughlin's 2nd coming.
(03-24-2020, 05:09 PM)D-Money Wrote: [ -> ]
It would make sense to keep the solid pieces and work the draft picks in. We could have worked something in with Calais with all of the cap space we have cleared. Now we are using that cap space to sign average to below average bodies. Imagine if we kept Bouye ,Calais, and Yan, we still would have been able to sign Schobert, really like the only FA that will make a difference. Terrible front office still. I hope they prove me wrong tho
We didnt have the cap space to do what you want.
(03-24-2020, 03:44 PM)D-Money Wrote: [ -> ] (03-24-2020, 03:03 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ]These signings scream 2013 Jaguars. I’ll be surprised if we win 4 games next year. What a joke
True...man this is crazy. Watch how many people try to justify how good the moves are, what kind of comp it brings in and how much it helps with the cap.
Yeah man. You got people on here who think Al Woods is gonna be some great rotational player. Guy is a nobody.
(03-24-2020, 10:14 PM)jaglyn Wrote: [ -> ]As I am listening to the names of our FA signing, I am asking myself, "Who are these scrubs?"
Facts. Absolute nobodies that will be out of the league within 2 seasons
(03-25-2020, 09:31 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]OP, given that we started the offseason with negative cap space, what exactly did you envision FA to look like?
Which of these signings have the potential to be an albatross hanging from the team's neck in two years? Just because they're not big-name signings doesn't mean they're not good signings.
I'd venture that more of our big-name signings have flopped than not.
Brother we’ve freed up $30MIL already.. I’m pretty sure we can afford to go after better players than al woods or whoever that nobody is. I don’t even know their names. I don’t care.
(03-25-2020, 12:50 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ] (03-24-2020, 10:14 PM)jaglyn Wrote: [ -> ]As I am listening to the names of our FA signing, I am asking myself, "Who are these scrubs?"
Facts. Absolute nobodies that will be out of the league within 2 seasons
(03-25-2020, 09:31 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]OP, given that we started the offseason with negative cap space, what exactly did you envision FA to look like?
Which of these signings have the potential to be an albatross hanging from the team's neck in two years? Just because they're not big-name signings doesn't mean they're not good signings.
I'd venture that more of our big-name signings have flopped than not.
Brother we’ve freed up $30MIL already.. I’m pretty sure we can afford to go after better players than al woods or whoever that nobody is. I don’t even know their names. I don’t care.
Ermergherd we didn't sign all the big name FAs I hear about on Sportscenter!!!
Life sucks so baaaaaahd!
Khan is turrrible! Caldwell sucks!!
(03-25-2020, 02:09 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (03-25-2020, 12:50 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ]Facts. Absolute nobodies that will be out of the league within 2 seasons
Brother we’ve freed up $30MIL already.. I’m pretty sure we can afford to go after better players than al woods or whoever that nobody is. I don’t even know their names. I don’t care.
Ermergherd we didn't sign all the big name FAs I hear about on Sportscenter!!!
Life sucks so baaaaaahd!
Khan is turrrible! Caldwell sucks!!
Pretty much sums it up, lol.
Need to bring back Prosinski and Sensabaugh
(03-25-2020, 12:50 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ] (03-24-2020, 10:14 PM)jaglyn Wrote: [ -> ]As I am listening to the names of our FA signing, I am asking myself, "Who are these scrubs?"
Facts. Absolute nobodies that will be out of the league within 2 seasons
(03-25-2020, 09:31 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]OP, given that we started the offseason with negative cap space, what exactly did you envision FA to look like?
Which of these signings have the potential to be an albatross hanging from the team's neck in two years? Just because they're not big-name signings doesn't mean they're not good signings.
I'd venture that more of our big-name signings have flopped than not.
Brother we’ve freed up $30MIL already.. I’m pretty sure we can afford to go after better players than al woods or whoever that nobody is. I don’t even know their names. I don’t care.
Because signing a bunch of high-priced free agents has been so successful for us over the years.
Name one team that has bought a championship.
(03-25-2020, 02:45 PM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ] (03-25-2020, 12:50 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ]Facts. Absolute nobodies that will be out of the league within 2 seasons
Brother we’ve freed up $30MIL already.. I’m pretty sure we can afford to go after better players than al woods or whoever that nobody is. I don’t even know their names. I don’t care.
Because signing a bunch of high-priced free agents has been so successful for us over the years.
Name one team that has bought a championship.
Denver bought Manning then didn't win until he sucked. The ultimate irony.
(03-25-2020, 02:48 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (03-25-2020, 02:45 PM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ]Because signing a bunch of high-priced free agents has been so successful for us over the years.
Name one team that has bought a championship.
Denver bought Manning then didn't win until he sucked. The ultimate irony.
Yep, as I've said before they won
despite Manning. [BLEEP], he got pulled for Osweiler mid-season.
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(03-25-2020, 02:09 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (03-25-2020, 12:50 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ]Facts. Absolute nobodies that will be out of the league within 2 seasons
Brother we’ve freed up $30MIL already.. I’m pretty sure we can afford to go after better players than al woods or whoever that nobody is. I don’t even know their names. I don’t care.
Ermergherd we didn't sign all the big name FAs I hear about on Sportscenter!!!
Life sucks so baaaaaahd!
Khan is turrrible! Caldwell sucks!!
Please show me the post where I said I wanted a bunch of big names in FA.
Just because I expect better than bottom of the barrel signings doesn’t mean that I want us to do 2017 all over again. There’s a happy medium and we’re not doing it. $30M in cap is plenty to sign a couple of decent player's and draft the rest. The Jaguars, however, overpayed for an average linebacker, injury prone tight end, and a couple of guys off the street.
I don’t understand what you guys aren’t getting here.
(03-25-2020, 02:52 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ] (03-25-2020, 02:09 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]Ermergherd we didn't sign all the big name FAs I hear about on Sportscenter!!!
Life sucks so baaaaaahd!
Khan is turrrible! Caldwell sucks!!
Please show me the post where I said I wanted a bunch of big names in FA.
Just because I expect better than bottom of the barrel signings doesn’t mean that I want us to do 2017 all over again. There’s a happy medium and we’re not doing it. $30M in cap is plenty to sign a couple of decent player's and draft the rest. The Jaguars, however, overpayed for an average linebacker, injury prone tight end, and a couple of guys off the street.
I don’t understand what you guys aren’t getting here.
Just that whatever they do won't make any difference to you and it will be the wrong move.
(03-25-2020, 11:50 AM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-24-2020, 05:09 PM)D-Money Wrote: [ -> ]
It would make sense to keep the solid pieces and work the draft picks in. We could have worked something in with Calais with all of the cap space we have cleared. Now we are using that cap space to sign average to below average bodies. Imagine if we kept Bouye ,Calais, and Yan, we still would have been able to sign Schobert, really like the only FA that will make a difference. Terrible front office still. I hope they prove me wrong tho
We didnt have the cap space to do what you want.
We didn't have enough cap space to keep Calais and Bouye while adding Schobert? Not even keeping Yan.
The trade of Foles, cutting Marquise Lee which should have been done already and Dareus ? Then add others thru the draft and maybe 1 other free agent possibly a solid OT or veteran safety..We didn't have enough for that?
(03-25-2020, 02:52 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ] (03-25-2020, 02:09 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]Ermergherd we didn't sign all the big name FAs I hear about on Sportscenter!!!
Life sucks so baaaaaahd!
Khan is turrrible! Caldwell sucks!!
Please show me the post where I said I wanted a bunch of big names in FA.
Just because I expect better than bottom of the barrel signings doesn’t mean that I want us to do 2017 all over again. There’s a happy medium and we’re not doing it. $30M in cap is plenty to sign a couple of decent player's and draft the rest. The Jaguars, however, overpayed for an average linebacker, injury prone tight end, and a couple of guys off the street.
I don’t understand what you guys aren’t getting here.
Just because you don't know the names of our players doesn't mean they are "bottom of the barrel".
Schobert is a terrific MLB. Excellent in coverage and has played 61 out of 64 games in career.
Al Woods is an excellent run stopper.
Dennard and Eifert already prove that they can have an impact in the NFL.
Cassius Marsh is a DE who, one season ago, played 50% of the snaps and registered 5.5 sacks...
Rodney Gunter is another excellent run stopper.
Not only they are all a team need (DT, MLB, CB, DE, TE...) but they seems to be mature and down to earth, something that we were lacking the last couple of years.
(03-25-2020, 02:52 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ] (03-25-2020, 02:09 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]Ermergherd we didn't sign all the big name FAs I hear about on Sportscenter!!!
Life sucks so baaaaaahd!
Khan is turrrible! Caldwell sucks!!
Please show me the post where I said I wanted a bunch of big names in FA.
Just because I expect better than bottom of the barrel signings doesn’t mean that I want us to do 2017 all over again. There’s a happy medium and we’re not doing it. $30M in cap is plenty to sign a couple of decent player's and draft the rest. The Jaguars, however, overpayed for an average linebacker, injury prone tight end, and a couple of guys off the street.
I don’t understand what you guys aren’t getting here.
So again, which guys were you looking to acquire with that $30 (per OTC it's 20, btw) million? Just because you've never heard of them doesn't mean it's not a sensible signing. Other than Schobert and maybe Eifert (I haven't seen the specs on his deal yet), absolutely none of the guys we have signed will hurt our cap significantly if we move on from them at any point.
Spending in FA rarely pans out, especially on long-term deals. if your goal was to pay a little more for slightly better, yet still average at best talent, in two years you'll be griping about how we overpaid for a guy that stank out loud on the field.
Dennard's deal aligns perfectly with what you are aiming for, but I note you didn't bother to include him in your criticism - does that mean you approve of that signing?