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9: Perfectly fine with the pick. Might have been a slight sacrifice in value, but the fact that he was head and shoulders the best left at his position, and filled a glaring need made the pick worthwhile. Were I the GM, I would have either looked into trade down with NYJ and grabbed Wirfs, Kinlaw, or a WR at their spot.

20: I was never a fan of Chaisson. I think this was more desperation to replace Yann than finding great value. Were I the GM, I would have used an extra pick or two to swap up with Dallas and grab Lamb. Ruiz would have been a suitable replacement for them, given Frederick's retirement this offseason. This was another dead zone for picks, though, and if we stayed at 20, I'd have probably pulled a different WR off the board, either Pittman or Mims, likely.

Second worst draft, only the Raiders were worse. We really could have had Wirfs or Wills Jr and Jefferson and we went Henderson and Chaisson lol.

And don't lie anyone who had Henderson and Chaisson in any of the plethora of pre draft mock draft threads would have been laughed out of the room, and for good reason.

Do not play fanatic and do not play revisionist history.

(04-24-2020, 12:23 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-24-2020, 11:34 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Grade F-

No one gives two [BLEEP] about defense in the NFL, it's an offense league. No matter how good the defense is this team's offense cannot score enough points to win games. Offensive weapons were available and overlooked. Caldwell should be fired.

While I am not that thrilled with the first round, I wouldn't go THIS far.

1.  Defense is very important in the NFL, even with all of the rules changes.  This last Super bowl is proof.

The year before, KC was 30th in total defense and didn't reach the Super Bowl. 

KC fired its defensive coordinator and brought in a couple of key defensive free agents.  They moved up to 10th in total defense.  They won the game.

San Francisco was 2nd in total defense, reached the Super Bowl primarily by running the ball down people's throats, and controlled most of the Super Bowl with defense and the running game.

Throughout their twenty year run that featured 9 Super bowl appearances and 6 wins, the Patriots have had a strong defense.

Denver won with defense, and Seattle went to back to back Super Bowls with a great defense.

Furthermore, there are still plenty of weapons available left in the draft.  Will we get enough of them AND still fill the holes in the offensive line and DT?  That s the question.

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(04-24-2020, 08:20 AM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]We drafting like redundant player positions at high draft positions because front office cant keep players in their prime happy. We never gonna get better this way.  Like always starting over after 3 season.

As I said in another post, we are drafting on a treadmill.

I'm going that far. They had the chance to put premier talent around a young QB who has the game/moxie/likeabililty/star power to actually make this team somewhat relevant on the national stage and instead they chose to take a stopgap replacement player from a school full of draft busts at DB and an injury prone linebacker who was the 3rd most important LB on his team last year. A waste of two first round picks. Poor Jay Gruden, actually thought he was going to get some help.

The interviews with Marrone and Caldwell made it seem that DJ Chark and Jawaan Taylor's prior knowledge and history with the picks was a big selling point.

(04-24-2020, 12:47 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]The interviews with Marrone and Caldwell made it seem that DJ Chark and Jawaan Taylor's prior knowledge and history with the picks was a big selling point.

As I continue to think about this draft, it was a character/culture draft as much as anything.

(04-24-2020, 12:47 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]The interviews with Marrone and Caldwell made it seem that DJ Chark and Jawaan Taylor's prior knowledge and history with the picks was a big selling point.

You know their buds are gonna say, "he good, most definitely you should pick him"  then they text their bros, you bout to get paid bro. I put in a good word for you. Yeah man, front office clueless but you gonna paid and be on vacation.  Tom Coughlin gone so it's good now.

(04-24-2020, 12:36 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Second worst draft, only the Raiders were worse. We really could have had Wirfs or Wills Jr and Jefferson and we went Henderson and Chaisson lol.

And don't lie anyone who had Henderson and Chaisson in any of the plethora of pre draft mock draft threads would have been laughed out of the room, and for good reason.

Do not play fanatic and do not play revisionist history.

CBS Sports had three mock drafts.  Two of the three had Henderson gone by our pick at #9 and the other was only three picks behind at #12.  All three mocks had Chaisson gone by #20.  One of them had him in the top 10.  I'm not saying that you have to agree with them, but I think you are over-doing the laugh-ability of these picks.

(04-24-2020, 06:58 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-24-2020, 12:36 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Second worst draft, only the Raiders were worse. We really could have had Wirfs or Wills Jr and Jefferson and we went Henderson and Chaisson lol.

And don't lie anyone who had Henderson and Chaisson in any of the plethora of pre draft mock draft threads would have been laughed out of the room, and for good reason.

Do not play fanatic and do not play revisionist history.

CBS Sports had three mock drafts.  Two of the three had Henderson gone by our pick at #9 and the other was only three picks behind at #12.  All three mocks had Chaisson gone by #20.  One of them had him in the top 10.  I'm not saying that you have to agree with them, but I think you are over-doing the laugh-ability of these picks.

What was scary to me is Caldwell's admission to Mike Silver that he was willing to take Chaisson at 9.

(04-24-2020, 07:06 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-24-2020, 06:58 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ]CBS Sports had three mock drafts.  Two of the three had Henderson gone by our pick at #9 and the other was only three picks behind at #12.  All three mocks had Chaisson gone by #20.  One of them had him in the top 10.  I'm not saying that you have to agree with them, but I think you are over-doing the laugh-ability of these picks.

What was scary to me is Caldwell's admission to Mike Silver that he was willing to take Chaisson at 9.

Then, we're definitely going to see more needs-based picks tonight than BAP picks. It's all about this year.

Marrone and Caldwell