Predictably, the spin is strong in in this thread.
People were peacefully exercising their 1st Amendment right.
The curfew deadline had not been reached. Trump did it for the most disengenuos photo op we've ever seen. Holding a Bible (upside down) that he's likely never read.
The message was a show of Presidential power. Trumpettes love over-compensation. Imagine the uproar had Obama done anything remotely like what Trump did yesterday.
(06-02-2020, 03:41 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]Predictably, the spin is strong in in this thread.
People were peacefully exercising their 1st Amendment right.
The curfew deadline had not been reached. Trump did it for the most disengenuos photo op we've ever seen. Holding a Bible (upside down) that he's likely never read.
The message was a show of Presidential power. Trumpettes love over-compensation. Imagine the uproar had Obama done anything remotely like what Trump did yesterday.
Or the uproar if Michigan's Governor wanted to take a picture during a "peaceful" protest 2 weeks ago and gassed/shot rubber bullets at Mr. Subway Rocket Launcher to show...checks notes...dominance.
I want to know if I can employ this when I go to Walmart.
(06-02-2020, 11:35 AM)Gabe Wrote: [ -> ] (06-02-2020, 11:14 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]It is for people who have basic common sense.
"I will meet you for dinner at 7" doesn't mean you leave your house at 7.
Just as curfew means in by 7, not absolutely before then, or we'll shoot you with rubber bullets and tear gas so the president can hold a Bible upside down for some reason.
What does that matter? In my theological teachings I was never taught that holding a bible upside down, sideways or otherwise was somehow disresepectul.
(06-02-2020, 03:41 PM)rollerjag Wrote: [ -> ]Predictably, the spin is strong in in this thread.
People were peacefully exercising their 1st Amendment right.
The curfew deadline had not been reached. Trump did it for the most disengenuos photo op we've ever seen. Holding a Bible (upside down) that he's likely never read.
The message was a show of Presidential power. Trumpettes love over-compensation. Imagine the uproar had Obama done anything remotely like what Trump did yesterday.
Regarding the part in bold, that's pretty much opinion rather than fact.
From what I understand the President does practice his faith which I do believe is of a Christian background. It doesn't really matter to me since faith is a personal issue and I'm not going to get into a religious discussion since it is against the CoC.
The important point that people miss and of course isn't reported is the significance of the place where he was standing. The church is a historical monument that has welcomed presidents for decades, no matter their faith. The other part of the story that is missing is the fact that the church was vandalized and set on fire just mere hours before. The Lincoln Memorial was also vandalized and defaced. Think about the significance of those places and what these "protests" are all about.
Well, this was a wonderful reminder of why I stay the hell away from the political forum now.
(06-02-2020, 07:11 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: [ -> ]Believe or don't believe:
Link with official statement
I'll say again, when the cops say move back, you move. Not only were they doing crowd control they were preparing for a presidential visit to a potential hot zone. This idea that cops are going to be second grade teachers bringing their class in from recess is folly
(06-02-2020, 06:59 PM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ]Well, this was a wonderful reminder of why I stay the hell away from the political forum now.
Aww stick around.
You might feel better for a while if you walk away, but how will anything get fixed if we don't build consensus? Leave the field to people who upset you?
It must be really irksome to people who dont like God, hate their country, and arent opposed to killing babies to see a POTUS who takes his religion serious.
(06-02-2020, 07:41 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]It must be really irksome to people who dont like God, hate their country, and arent opposed to killing babies to see a POTUS who takes his religion serious.
I feel a strong need to explain why you're wrong, but it would violate the CoC.
But I think this much is within the CoC.
Bush 43 attended that church fairly regularly.
So did Obama.
Trump does not. He's attended a normal church service, as a normal worshipper rather than an invited speaker, once during his Presidency, as I recall.
(06-02-2020, 06:33 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ] (06-02-2020, 11:35 AM)Gabe Wrote: [ -> ]Just as curfew means in by 7, not absolutely before then, or we'll shoot you with rubber bullets and tear gas so the president can hold a Bible upside down for some reason.
What does that matter? In my theological teachings I was never taught that holding a bible upside down, sideways or otherwise was somehow disresepectul.
Makes about as much sense as the photo op itself
(06-02-2020, 06:33 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ] (06-02-2020, 11:35 AM)Gabe Wrote: [ -> ]Just as curfew means in by 7, not absolutely before then, or we'll shoot you with rubber bullets and tear gas so the president can hold a Bible upside down for some reason.
What does that matter? In my theological teachings I was never taught that holding a bible upside down, sideways or otherwise was somehow disresepectul.
It was a secret signal. Like flying the flag upside down, holding the bible upside down is a sign of distress. He was trying to let us know aliens had taken over the White House.
(06-02-2020, 10:27 PM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-02-2020, 10:19 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]It was a secret signal. Like flying the flag upside down, holding the bible upside down is a sign of distress. He was trying to let us know aliens had taken over the White House.
Hair piece has fallen
I enjoyed this, to be fair.
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