Luckily, skill players aren't a vital part of the NFL because we're pretty much paying our entire roster of QBs, WRs, and TEs less than most starting QBs are making. This says a lot about our inability to draft, acquire, and retain proven talent at the offensive skill positions
Player Salary Cap Hit
QB Mike Glennon $1,050,000 $878,125
QB Joshua Dobbs $825,000 $825,000
QB Gardner Minshew $675,000 $722,904
QB Jake Luton $610,000 $655,439
RB Chris Thompson $1,050,000 $1,368,750
RB Ryquell Armstead $675,000 $761,769
RB Devine Ozigbo $675,000 $675,000
TE Tyler Eifert $1,000,000 $3,375,000
TE James O'Shaughnessy $910,000 $1,072,500
TE Tyler Davis 610,000 $649,887
WR Keelan Cole $3,259,000 $3,259,000
WR Dede Westbrook $2,133,000 $2,302,041
WR D.J. Chark $884,294 $1,212,881
WR Laviska Shenault $610,000 $1,399,285
WR Collin Johnson $610,000 $686,788
TOTAL $15,576,294 $19,844,369
That’s what a window looks like for a good team. Bad teams pay a ton for skill positions. Good teams just draft those players and keep a few.
Playing moneyball apparently
Russell Wilson makes about 2 million per game. The Jags have 3.1 million sunk into the QB position for the entire season. If that doesn't show the level of depravity this team has sunken to, I don't know what will.
EDIT: that's counting all FOUR QBs. If we cut Dobbs, we will be looking at spending 2,335,000 for the year on QB. Oof.
(09-02-2020, 02:14 PM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote: [ -> ]That’s what a window looks like for a good team. Bad teams pay a ton for skill positions. Good teams just draft those players and keep a few.
What team would you consider a good team?
Now we're on to [BLEEP] that we aren't in cap hell. Pathetic.
I guess we should've kept 4Million-ette so this number would be higher, then you could [BLEEP] about how we're overpaying the offense for the production.
(09-02-2020, 02:21 PM)EricC85 Wrote: [ -> ]Playing moneyball apparently
Yes, and unfortuntely, we're more like the Pittsburgh Pirates than we are the Oakland A's
(09-02-2020, 01:44 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Luckily, skill players aren't a vital part of the NFL because we're pretty much paying our entire roster of QBs, WRs, and TEs less than most starting QBs are making. This says a lot about our inability to draft, acquire, and retain proven talent at the offensive skill positions
Player Salary Cap Hit
QB Mike Glennon $1,050,000 $878,125
QB Joshua Dobbs $825,000 $825,000
QB Gardner Minshew $675,000 $722,904
QB Jake Luton $610,000 $655,439
RB Chris Thompson $1,050,000 $1,368,750
RB Ryquell Armstead $675,000 $761,769
RB Devine Ozigbo $675,000 $675,000
TE Tyler Eifert $1,000,000 $3,375,000
TE James O'Shaughnessy $910,000 $1,072,500
TE Tyler Davis 610,000 $649,887
WR Keelan Cole $3,259,000 $3,259,000
WR Dede Westbrook $2,133,000 $2,302,041
WR D.J. Chark $884,294 $1,212,881
WR Laviska Shenault $610,000 $1,399,285
WR Collin Johnson $610,000 $686,788
TOTAL $15,576,294 $19,844,369
Add $18,750,000 for Fole's cap hit this year.
This FO are some cheap bastards
How are they cheap? Like 90% of the offense are on rookie deals or low FA signings for depth. To have Minshew at what we are paying him is a bargin and everyteam would love a starter caliber QB for under a million a year.
(09-02-2020, 09:53 PM)icey14 Wrote: [ -> ]How are they cheap? Like 90% of the offense are on rookie deals or low FA signings for depth. To have Minshew at what we are paying him is a bargin and everyteam would love a starter caliber QB for under a million a year.
We suck, we sucked last year, now we have little to no talent on the team and will more than likely suck again. They are cheap because they let everyone go that proved they can produce on the field. I want Minshew to be good but with taking everything away from him, it's like we are putting pressure on him with no help. PLease stop trying to backup the FO none of their decisions are making any sense, they can't prove it and you can't either.
(09-02-2020, 10:19 PM)D-Money Wrote: [ -> ] (09-02-2020, 09:53 PM)icey14 Wrote: [ -> ]How are they cheap? Like 90% of the offense are on rookie deals or low FA signings for depth. To have Minshew at what we are paying him is a bargin and everyteam would love a starter caliber QB for under a million a year.
We suck, we sucked last year, now we have little to no talent on the team and will more than likely suck again. They are cheap because they let everyone go that proved they can produce on the field. I want Minshew to be good but with taking everything away from him, it's like we are putting pressure on him with no help. PLease stop trying to backup the FO none of their decisions are making any sense, they can't prove it and you can't either.
The offensive talent isn't significantly different from last year. Cutting Fournette is hardly "taking everything away from him", he's got some new and healthy returning linemen, a new Tight End, the same receivers...this whole thread is like something out of J-Dub's "Corky's Greatest Takes" playbook.
(09-02-2020, 10:24 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (09-02-2020, 10:19 PM)D-Money Wrote: [ -> ]We suck, we sucked last year, now we have little to no talent on the team and will more than likely suck again. They are cheap because they let everyone go that proved they can produce on the field. I want Minshew to be good but with taking everything away from him, it's like we are putting pressure on him with no help. PLease stop trying to backup the FO none of their decisions are making any sense, they can't prove it and you can't either.
The offensive talent isn't significantly different from last year. Cutting Fournette is hardly "taking everything away from him", he's got some new and healthy returning linemen, a new Tight End, the same receivers...this whole thread is like something out of J-Dub's "Corky's Greatest Takes" playbook.
Ya'll fail to realize we had the right chemistry on the 2017 team. The different personalities whoever they were fed off each other and played well together. The team is going to have play a couple seasons together before that happens here again.
Fournette was a workhorse, we are not sure these rbs that we have will duplicate his productivity, no matter how much yall try to downplay it. Our defense got worse so there will be pressure on Minshew and the offense to try to put up a lot of points if the defense can't stop teams from scoring.
Not saying you have to agree but I don't understand how you possibly think all the changes we have had this past year is not going to do something to our 2nd year qb.
It’s to be expected that a young team would have lower salaries and a lower cap. Sheesh, move along folks nothing to see here
(09-02-2020, 11:00 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]It’s to be expected that a young team would have lower salaries and a lower cap. Sheesh, move along folks nothing to see here
Your signature makes your opinion void. GM goes 1 win in 7 years and you still feel the same way?
Its kinda funny to see we almost pay the "best player/starter" of each group less than the backups...
(09-03-2020, 05:37 AM)Hurricane Wrote: [ -> ]Its kinda funny to see we almost pay the "best player/starter" of each group less than the backups...
If you're shocked by the fact that older players on rookie deals make more money than younger players on rookie deals then collective bargaining must be a foreign language to you.
The lesson that hopefully Caldwell learns is to rely less on free agency and more on the draft. The team has actually drafted pretty well for the last three years, and next year will probably have 4 picks in the 100. Let's hope Minshew is the guy, but if not, we'll get a good QB next year.
(09-02-2020, 09:53 PM)icey14 Wrote: [ -> ]How are they cheap? Like 90% of the offense are on rookie deals or low FA signings for depth. To have Minshew at what we are paying him is a bargin and everyteam would love a starter caliber QB for under a million a year.
They are like the Pittsburgh Pirates. When contracts of their star players near, they get rid of them and state they are rebuilding. Sure, we can say we have young inexpensive players like the Pirates .... then go on to watch them succeed on much better teams