(11-09-2020, 12:59 PM)jg77 Wrote: [ -> ]That's the thing...teams aren't figuring him out. He just an all-pro LT for the season and Yanda (an HOFer) retired. Lamar definitely needs to improve his throws outside the numbers but he's working a miracle in Baltimore with tier 2 WRs and one solid TE. Imagine Lamar with our weapons on offense...we'd probably be undefeated right now.
Lol, does LJ play defense? Their defense is the reason they are 6-2. Andrews is one of the best TEs in the league, he won the Mackey Award for a reason. The only reason he fell to the 3rd is because he has diabetes but it hasn't affected him yet. Brown is a damn good WR and Snead and Boykins are pretty good as well. Orlando Brown is a damn good tackle as well. Let's not act like he has nothing to work with
(11-09-2020, 11:44 AM)jg77 Wrote: [ -> ]Lol this thread is so salty against last year's MVP. If we had Lamar we'd be such a better team. I like the Ravens chances this year...not Lamar's fault that he lost an all-pro LT and a HOF G to retirement. That'd make any QB regress and yet his team is still 6-2. 25-5 as a starter...how can you hate that. Just infuriates me cause he could've been our QB.
Guy isn’t that good. He is a classic run, but can’t throw QB. I watched Jackson closely yesterday and I saw a guy who can’t beat you with his arm if you take away the run. That type of player will not go far in the postseason. I do not want him here cause A. He would look a lot worse and B. He isn’t a QB that wins in the postseason.
That said I would love for him to win the SB and the jags to get a 3rd round pick, but there’s a reason he keep failing quickly in the playoffs.
I don't know why I'm arguing with folks who don't think an unanimous MVP isn't good. Lol.
Why is this a problem? The thread should be about the Jags organizing to vote Yan into the probowl. Who cares how good he is, vote him into the probowl and get a better pick.
(11-09-2020, 01:43 PM)jg77 Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know why I'm arguing with folks who don't think an unanimous MVP isn't good. Lol.
That was last year, now he dont have the luxury of having the best LT in the league and a HOF guard. Still has one of if not the best defense in the league thoigh
(11-09-2020, 12:51 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (11-09-2020, 12:42 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]His record is what it is because of his defense. Last year they set a record with 11 or 12 Pro Bowlers on the team. As Kane said teams are starting to figure him out. He had the luxury of having the best LT in football and a HOF guard last year which hardly no other team in the league has. I'm glad we didn't draft him though because I would take Fields, Lawrence, or Trask all over LJ. They still have a chance though because of their defense
Yea. Thank god for Taven. Stud.
Don't think anyone is saying anything close to Taven>Jackson.
Just that these hype type QBs become something flashy really quickly and then peter out. First of all... there's a reason he's regressing from his MVP season (which was largely boosted by his run game) and it isn't just missing some OL guys. Second, there's a reason why he slid to 32 (would have been the 2nd round had Ravens not traded up).
Unless (and he still could) he improves his game from inside the pocket, he'll be a flash in the pan QB and won't ever amount to much more than what he is... which is a better version of RG3 but not a legitimate franchise QB.
Which was what many of the "Lamar haters" have been saying since pre draft. He's a running QB, not a QB that can run. And yeah, he dazzled last year, he earned the MVP (likely because of Mahomes' injury though). But take away the run game portion of his ability and he's a very average QB. Can he stand in the pocket and throw it 35 times a game and lead that team from behind to win? Not lookin likely.
But I guess we just hate the kid and love us some Taven Bryan.
(11-09-2020, 01:47 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]The thread should be about the Jags organizing to vote Yan into the probowl.
Indeed... not sure how it got derailed into a discussion about that teams'
RB QB.
(11-09-2020, 02:57 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (11-09-2020, 12:51 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Yea. Thank god for Taven. Stud.
Don't think anyone is saying anything close to Taven>Jackson.
Just that these hype type QBs become something flashy really quickly and then peter out. First of all... there's a reason he's regressing from his MVP season (which was largely boosted by his run game) and it isn't just missing some OL guys. Second, there's a reason why he slid to 32 (would have been the 2nd round had Ravens not traded up).
Unless (and he still could) he improves his game from inside the pocket, he'll be a flash in the pan QB and won't ever amount to much more than what he is... which is a better version of RG3 but not a legitimate franchise QB.
Which was what many of the "Lamar haters" have been saying since pre draft. He's a running QB, not a QB that can run. And yeah, he dazzled last year, he earned the MVP (likely because of Mahomes' injury though). But take away the run game portion of his ability and he's a very average QB. Can he stand in the pocket and throw it 35 times a game and lead that team from behind to win? Not lookin likely.
But I guess we just hate the kid and love us some Taven Bryan.
(11-09-2020, 01:47 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]The thread should be about the Jags organizing to vote Yan into the probowl.
Indeed... not sure how it got derailed into a discussion about that teams' RB QB.
Lol didn't he win MVP last year and lead the league in passing TDs? I'm moving on from this but some of y'all just can't admit when you're wrong. Despite the struggles this year the Ravens are sitting at 6-2 and there two losses are against the best two teams in the NFL right now.
(11-09-2020, 04:22 PM)jg77 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-09-2020, 02:57 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]Don't think anyone is saying anything close to Taven>Jackson.
Just that these hype type QBs become something flashy really quickly and then peter out. First of all... there's a reason he's regressing from his MVP season (which was largely boosted by his run game) and it isn't just missing some OL guys. Second, there's a reason why he slid to 32 (would have been the 2nd round had Ravens not traded up).
Unless (and he still could) he improves his game from inside the pocket, he'll be a flash in the pan QB and won't ever amount to much more than what he is... which is a better version of RG3 but not a legitimate franchise QB.
Which was what many of the "Lamar haters" have been saying since pre draft. He's a running QB, not a QB that can run. And yeah, he dazzled last year, he earned the MVP (likely because of Mahomes' injury though). But take away the run game portion of his ability and he's a very average QB. Can he stand in the pocket and throw it 35 times a game and lead that team from behind to win? Not lookin likely.
But I guess we just hate the kid and love us some Taven Bryan.
Indeed... not sure how it got derailed into a discussion about that teams' RB QB.
Lol didn't he win MVP last year and lead the league in passing TDs? I'm moving on from this but some of y'all just can't admit when you're wrong. Despite the struggles this year the Ravens are sitting at 6-2 and there two losses are against the best two teams in the NFL right now.
Its because they have the best defense in the league.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/vi...me/dir/asc