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(12-13-2020, 05:47 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]To those who kept defending Chark in here in the thread, watch Davante Adams TD just now. Good receivers attack the ball on bad throws. Clearly Chark is no where near Adams, but my god coach this kid to attack the ball. Again, I have yet to see him do it once.

The difference is one has an actual QB throwing him the ball and the other has a couple stock boys from walmart throwing him the ball.

Did you not see Cole frustrated as all hell this game also? He was clearly pissed that his QBs are trash as well and can't get him the ball.

There's been multiple games now our WRs have been visibly frustrated at our QBs missing every throw.

I mean just look at this clip of Viska wide open for an easy TD and Minshew makes this dumb [BLEEP] throw... He had Chark open as well and still missed it because he has no touch.. This the kind of crap they've had to deal with all season from our QBs and they're tired of it and I don't blame them.

https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...5468414979

(12-13-2020, 08:45 PM)Ji Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2020, 05:47 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]To those who kept defending Chark in here in the thread, watch Davante Adams TD just now. Good receivers attack the ball on bad throws. Clearly Chark is no where near Adams, but my god coach this kid to attack the ball. Again, I have yet to see him do it once.

The difference is one has an actual QB throwing him the ball and the other has a couple stock boys from walmart throwing him the ball.

Did you not see Cole frustrated as all hell this game also? He was clearly pissed that his QBs are trash as well and can't get him the ball.

There's been multiple games now our WRs have been visibly frustrated at our QBs missing every throw.

I mean just look at this clip of Viska wide open for an easy TD and Minshew makes this dumb [BLEEP] throw... He had Chark open as well and still missed it because he has no touch.. This the kind of crap they've had to deal with all season from our QBs and they're tired of it and I don't blame them.

https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...5468414979

I agree with all this. I’m saying, the ball skills of these receivers... just flat out have not improved... ever. Again... routes? Very clean, they get open consistently. Ball in the air? Bad throw? 50-50 ball... these receivers consistently can’t make those plays... never have. I’m telling you, I’ve had this issue with Chark for so long, ball in the air or behind him he either just has his hands low and waits or just makes no play toward it. It’s the next step for a WR to take to be elite. Just don’t think they are coached [BLEEP].

Game day threads are set at 10... everyone saying there shorter then normal are confusing me? i think they're quite lively as of late?

(12-13-2020, 08:56 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2020, 08:45 PM)Ji Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]The difference is one has an actual QB throwing him the ball and the other has a couple stock boys from walmart throwing him the ball.

Did you not see Cole frustrated as all hell this game also? He was clearly pissed that his QBs are trash as well and can't get him the ball.

There's been multiple games now our WRs have been visibly frustrated at our QBs missing every throw.

I mean just look at this clip of Viska wide open for an easy TD and Minshew makes this dumb [BLEEP] throw... He had Chark open as well and still missed it because he has no touch.. This the kind of crap they've had to deal with all season from our QBs and they're tired of it and I don't blame them.

https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...5468414979

I agree with all this. I’m saying, the ball skills of these receivers... just flat out have not improved... ever. Again... routes? Very clean, they get open consistently. Ball in the air? Bad throw? 50-50 ball... these receivers consistently can’t make those plays... never have. I’m telling you, I’ve had this issue with Chark for so long, ball in the air or behind him he either just has his hands low and waits or just makes no play toward it. It’s the next step for a WR to take to be elite. Just don’t think they are coached [BLEEP].

The ball skills and route running are fine.

The issue is the team is 1-12 with the worst QB situation in the entire league. Even worse than the Jets. When you continually run wide open and aren’t thrown the ball your bound to not give 100% effort every play.

Blaming Keenan seems to be an odd thing to do.

Regardless, it’ll be an entire new staff next year so the point doesn’t matter.

(12-13-2020, 11:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2020, 08:56 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with all this. I’m saying, the ball skills of these receivers... just flat out have not improved... ever. Again... routes? Very clean, they get open consistently. Ball in the air? Bad throw? 50-50 ball... these receivers consistently can’t make those plays... never have. I’m telling you, I’ve had this issue with Chark for so long, ball in the air or behind him he either just has his hands low and waits or just makes no play toward it. It’s the next step for a WR to take to be elite. Just don’t think they are coached [BLEEP].

The ball skills and route running are fine.

The issue is the team is 1-12 with the worst QB situation in the entire league. Even worse than the Jets. When you continually run wide open and aren’t thrown the ball your bound to not give 100% effort every play.

Blaming Keenan seems to be an odd thing to do.

Regardless, it’ll be an entire new staff next year so the point doesn’t matter.

Accurate take. +1

Short game thread or not, we will be the  ones that remember how bad it felt when we are tasting the sweet nectar of victory sometime in the future. Let us hope and wish and cant wait until draft day late april 2021

(12-13-2020, 11:21 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]Short game thread or not, we will be the  ones that remember how bad it felt when we are tasting the sweet nectar of victory sometime in the future. Let us hope and wish and cant wait until draft day late april 2021

Positive vibe that i can get behind... I honestly believe we're gonna right the ship and forget our 10 yr. lease on stadium and all that Lot J b-[BLEEP].... but hey, we're all taking a shot in the dark on that one.

(12-13-2020, 11:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2020, 08:56 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with all this. I’m saying, the ball skills of these receivers... just flat out have not improved... ever. Again... routes? Very clean, they get open consistently. Ball in the air? Bad throw? 50-50 ball... these receivers consistently can’t make those plays... never have. I’m telling you, I’ve had this issue with Chark for so long, ball in the air or behind him he either just has his hands low and waits or just makes no play toward it. It’s the next step for a WR to take to be elite. Just don’t think they are coached [BLEEP].

The ball skills and route running are fine.

The issue is the team is 1-12 with the worst QB situation in the entire league. Even worse than the Jets. When you continually run wide open and aren’t thrown the ball your bound to not give 100% effort every play.

Blaming Keenan seems to be an odd thing to do.

Regardless, it’ll be an entire new staff next year so the point doesn’t matter.

Yeah we just disagree. In my opinion the WR's are underperforming and it's a coaching/effort thing. The only player worth a damn IMO on the entire offense is JROB, that's it. The point matters because sometimes positional coaches are retained. We have seen new HC's come in and keep guys from old staff. I know the QB's are god awful, but it's not an excuse for poor WR play. If Rodgers was throwing to these guys, I still think we would see the same issues that I notice. I know it's hard to be critical of other positions on offense because the most important position is terrible, but you can't look at things with blinders. Chark clearly has some talent, like you said he is running good routes. I agree with that, he is open a lot, but when the ball is a little behind... or high up... what I keep seeing is the defenders are making better plays on the ball. 

Anyways let's just hope there is a full clean house and nobody... not even anybody in the concessions or parking.. are back.

(12-14-2020, 12:29 AM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2020, 11:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]The ball skills and route running are fine.

The issue is the team is 1-12 with the worst QB situation in the entire league. Even worse than the Jets. When you continually run wide open and aren’t thrown the ball your bound to not give 100% effort every play.

Blaming Keenan seems to be an odd thing to do.

Regardless, it’ll be an entire new staff next year so the point doesn’t matter.

Yeah we just disagree. In my opinion the WR's are underperforming and it's a coaching/effort thing. The only player worth a damn IMO on the entire offense is JROB, that's it. The point matters because sometimes positional coaches are retained. We have seen new HC's come in and keep guys from old staff. I know the QB's are god awful, but it's not an excuse for poor WR play. If Rodgers was throwing to these guys, I still think we would see the same issues that I notice. I know it's hard to be critical of other positions on offense because the most important position is terrible, but you can't look at things with blinders. Chark clearly has some talent, like you said he is running good routes. I agree with that, he is open a lot, but when the ball is a little behind... or high up... what I keep seeing is the defenders are making better plays on the ball. 

Anyways let's just hope there is a full clean house and nobody... not even anybody in the concessions or parking.. are back.

Chark and Cole have proven in the past they can make plays. Big plays. Viska has flashed too as a rookie. 

Is it an effort thing? yeah probably. Some guys might be checking out on a 1-12 season with a lame duck HC and 3 lame duck QBs... I think at this point a lot of guys are probably going through the motions just trying to make it to the end without major injury.

If we don't address HC/QB properly this off season, I'm worried about the probability or re signing a guy like Cole or extending a guy like Chark.

I think seeing the career bust that was Tannehill go to the T*tans and turn them into a regular playoff team shows that unlikely routes can lead to success.

I love Minshew and obviously QB needs to be addressed in the off season but with the amount of cap we have, we shouldnt rule out looking for a QB in FA.

Can the QB tackle Henry? If not, the results will be the same with any QB you want in the history of football.

(12-14-2020, 07:28 PM)TearExtractor Wrote: [ -> ]Can the QB tackle Henry? If not, the results will be the same with any QB you want in the history of football.

Well hopefully this year is the last of Washs 4 man rush soft zone D and no more Caldwell drafting undersized DL and LB

(12-14-2020, 07:13 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]I think seeing the career bust that was Tannehill go to the T*tans and turn them into a regular playoff team shows that unlikely routes can lead to success.

I love Minshew and obviously QB needs to be addressed in the off season but with the amount of cap we have, we shouldnt rule out looking for a QB in FA.

The best case scenario in my opinion is to avoid an expensive, overpriced QB from FA - especially when we will presumably draft a QB early on in the draft. Then, let Minshew and the new QB compete and may we let the best man win. Minshew is a great stop-gap player who we have on a cheap rookie contract - so it would be ideal for him to start early next year, even if the new QB has an adjustment period.

This thread title is a little suggestive. Wasnt sure exactly what i was going to find in here. Gotta say i wa s a bit disappointed. Hehe.

(12-13-2020, 02:19 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Let's go Jugs!

(12-15-2020, 06:38 PM)surfon Wrote: [ -> ]This thread title is a little suggestive.  Wasnt sure exactly what i was going to find in here.  Gotta say i wa s a bit disappointed.  Hehe.

Apparently you missed this post.

(12-15-2020, 07:52 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2020, 02:19 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Let's go Jugs!

(12-15-2020, 06:38 PM)surfon Wrote: [ -> ]This thread title is a little suggestive.  Wasnt sure exactly what i was going to find in here.  Gotta say i wa s a bit disappointed.  Hehe.

Apparently you missed this post.

Yep,  attaboy biscuit