(01-04-2021, 09:19 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Khan is not going all Jerry Jones.
Khan said for the immediate future he will have final say on players exiting and entering the team. In other words, Khan will need to be in the loop if anyone gets canned or signed by the team. You can't blame him after the Ramsey and Yannick problems. Those were guys you build around and got traded off.
In other words, the rich guy who knows nothing about football intends to micro-manage the GM's player decisions. What quality candidate will want the job under those conditions? Amateur hour continues......
Ramsey was a spoiled diva who wanted out. Dave Caldwell made a great deal with that trade.
(01-04-2021, 11:18 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ] (01-04-2021, 09:19 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Khan is not going all Jerry Jones.
Khan said for the immediate future he will have final say on players exiting and entering the team. In other words, Khan will need to be in the loop if anyone gets canned or signed by the team. You can't blame him after the Ramsey and Yannick problems. Those were guys you build around and got traded off.
In other words, the rich guy who knows nothing about football intends to micro-manage the GM's player decisions. What quality candidate will want the job under those conditions? Amateur hour continues......
Ramsey was a spoiled diva who wanted out. Dave Caldwell made a great deal with that trade.
Ya know i have to pretty much agree with what you are throwing down there.
Marvin Lewis is MR. Mediocre. A big no thanks.
(01-04-2021, 11:29 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Marvin Lewis is MR. Mediocre. A big no thanks.
I mean the bengals were garbage before he got there and they immediately got worse when he left. He also has had really bad luck with QB injuries in the playoffs or his guys just choking.
Let me put it this way, Andy Dalton looked like a good QB under Marvin, he didn’t look anything like that after he left. Carson Palmer also had his best season under Lewis.
He’s not my favorite, but he’s at least as good a choice as Caldwell IMO.
I’m enjoying reading some of the articles about how attractive the Jacksonville HC position is currently. Most have us and the chargers 1 and 2. The one thing that is still makes me cringe is when news outlets bring up London. Not in a move the team aspect but more just pointing out how committed we were becoming to London before COVID. Thinking back to all the state of the franchise speeches with Lamping showing bull [BLEEP] charts in an attempt to make fans somehow appreciate the fact they were moving games away is something that hasn’t aged well. At least not with me.
I understand what he was saying, I’m not blind to the realities that we face as a franchise in small market. But it was and always will feel like a bit of a slap in the face.
I hope those are days we can put behind us.
(01-04-2021, 11:39 PM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-04-2021, 11:29 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Marvin Lewis is MR. Mediocre. A big no thanks.
I mean the bengals were garbage before he got there and they immediately got worse when he left. He also has had really bad luck with QB injuries in the playoffs or his guys just choking.
Let me put it this way, Andy Dalton looked like a good QB under Marvin, he didn’t look anything like that after he left. Carson Palmer also had his best season under Lewis.
He’s not my favorite, but he’s at least as good a choice as Caldwell IMO.
I can agree with that. Still a hard no for me. If the job is as attractive as it seems to be, there is no reason we should have to settle for a move like that.
Owner thinks that the people of Jax are dumb, meanwhile his own son thinks that pro-wrestling is real
Go figure
(01-04-2021, 11:18 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ] (01-04-2021, 09:19 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Khan is not going all Jerry Jones.
Khan said for the immediate future he will have final say on players exiting and entering the team. In other words, Khan will need to be in the loop if anyone gets canned or signed by the team. You can't blame him after the Ramsey and Yannick problems. Those were guys you build around and got traded off.
In other words, the rich guy who knows nothing about football intends to micro-manage the GM's player decisions. What quality candidate will want the job under those conditions? Amateur hour continues......
Ramsey was a spoiled diva who wanted out. Dave Caldwell made a great deal with that trade.
The guy has been in the NFL business for 8 years. He probably knows much more about the business than you and I.
(01-04-2021, 11:18 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ] (01-04-2021, 09:19 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Khan is not going all Jerry Jones.
Khan said for the immediate future he will have final say on players exiting and entering the team. In other words, Khan will need to be in the loop if anyone gets canned or signed by the team. You can't blame him after the Ramsey and Yannick problems. Those were guys you build around and got traded off.
In other words, the rich guy who knows nothing about football intends to micro-manage the GM's player decisions. What quality candidate will want the job under those conditions? Amateur hour continues......
Ramsey was a spoiled diva who wanted out. Dave Caldwell made a great deal with that trade.
Ahhh thank you! I’m on the same page with this and that is how I interpreted his words. He said it himself- if you want to know who is making the decisions look no further. Such a joke. In his defense, he probably is thinking man I spent all this time listening to that jackass Caldwell when I would of been better off throwing darts at names on the wall. What he SHOULD be focused on is actually finding a qualified candidate and just let the man do his job. Not micro managing.
It’ll all be moot once we land TLAW and we have a franchise guy. Unless they treat him like Deshaun and provide the utmost garbage conditions.
(01-05-2021, 12:42 AM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-04-2021, 06:20 PM)Talented Kalamari Wrote: [ -> ]I’ve seen some things about Marvin Lewis being a candidate.. that is an absolutely pitiful choice. I would literally quit watching the team if he was hired as head coach.
why?
You really have to ask?
(01-05-2021, 12:59 AM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ] (01-04-2021, 11:18 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]In other words, the rich guy who knows nothing about football intends to micro-manage the GM's player decisions. What quality candidate will want the job under those conditions? Amateur hour continues......
Ramsey was a spoiled diva who wanted out. Tom Coughlin made a great deal with that trade.
Ahhh thank you! I’m on the same page with this and that is how I interpreted his words. He said it himself- if you want to know who is making the decisions look no further. Such a joke. In his defense, he probably is thinking man I spent all this time listening to that jackass Caldwell when I would of been better off throwing darts at names on the wall. What he SHOULD be focused on is actually finding a qualified candidate and just let the man do his job. Not micro managing.
It’ll all be moot once we land TLAW and we have a franchise guy. Unless they treat him like Deshaun and provide the utmost garbage conditions.
To me, it sounded like Khan was saying he is gonna force the GM/HC to select Lawrence... or to say it in a less aggressive way... the new GM and HC must be ok with drafting Lawrence because Khan won't accept this team drafting anyone else with #1.
Maybe I am wrong but that what I got from his words. And no, he is not planning on being Jerry Jones.
(01-04-2021, 11:29 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Marvin Lewis is MR. Mediocre. A big no thanks.
As someone who lives in Cincinnati, I concur. He was so wishy washy. He had absolutely no control of the players at all, when he coached the Bengals. Guys like Pacman Jones and Vontaze Burfict were constantly getting in trouble on and off the field and Marvin Lewis did nothing but make excuses for them. He's a terrible coach.
(01-04-2021, 11:39 PM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-04-2021, 11:29 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Marvin Lewis is MR. Mediocre. A big no thanks.
I mean the bengals were garbage before he got there and they immediately got worse when he left. He also has had really bad luck with QB injuries in the playoffs or his guys just choking.
Let me put it this way, Andy Dalton looked like a good QB under Marvin, he didn’t look anything like that after he left. Carson Palmer also had his best season under Lewis.
He’s not my favorite, but he’s at least as good a choice as Caldwell IMO.
They immediately got worse, because they purged the team of locker room cancers and started re-building. Here in Cincinnati we knew that was gonna happen. He had no control of his locker room full of criminals and his constant excuses were maddening! All my friends are Bengals fans and they wanted him out for years.
As far as being as good as Caldwell, is that what we are striving for? Things start to look up and you wanna set the bar that low. C'mon dude........ we can do better. Way better. This job is finally coveted. We should have our pick of the top coaches and GM's. Let's not screw this up by taking a failed retread.
(01-04-2021, 11:18 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ] (01-04-2021, 09:19 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Khan is not going all Jerry Jones.
Khan said for the immediate future he will have final say on players exiting and entering the team. In other words, Khan will need to be in the loop if anyone gets canned or signed by the team. You can't blame him after the Ramsey and Yannick problems. Those were guys you build around and got traded off.
In other words, the rich guy who knows nothing about football intends to micro-manage the GM's player decisions. What quality candidate will want the job under those conditions? Amateur hour continues......
Ramsey was a spoiled diva who wanted out. Dave Caldwell made a great deal with that trade.
I don't see it that way. He's frustrated with the results, and with what happened with the cap, and he wants to be more aware of what is going on. That's the way I read it. I think it's a natural reaction.
He's handed off responsibility ever since he bought the team, and the results have been very bad, and he's been out of the loop to the extent that he's been blindsided with a lot of stuff. So naturally, he wants to get in there and figure out what's happening.
I understand where he's coming from. Why are Jalen Ramsey, Yannick Ngakoue, Tashaun Gipson, Ronnie Harrison, Alan Robinson, Calais Campbell, and a bunch of other former Jaguars ALL IN THE PLAYOFFS, while we sit at 1-15?
Boy there is some brilliance in this thread.
(01-05-2021, 06:48 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (01-04-2021, 11:18 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]In other words, the rich guy who knows nothing about football intends to micro-manage the GM's player decisions. What quality candidate will want the job under those conditions? Amateur hour continues......
Ramsey was a spoiled diva who wanted out. Dave Caldwell made a great deal with that trade.
I don't see it that way. He's frustrated with the results, and with what happened with the cap, and he wants to be more aware of what is going on. That's the way I read it. I think it's a natural reaction.
He's handed off responsibility ever since he bought the team, and the results have been very bad, and he's been out of the loop to the extent that he's been blindsided with a lot of stuff. So naturally, he wants to get in there and figure out what's happening.
I understand where he's coming from. Why are Jalen Ramsey, Yannick Ngakoue, Tashaun Gipson, Ronnie Harrison, Alan Robinson, Calais Campbell, and a bunch of other former Jaguars ALL IN THE PLAYOFFS, while we sit at 1-15?
Aware of what's going on and controlling what
goes on are two very different things. I'm sure his password gives him access to the team's financial cap info. Didn't Dave take his phone calls? For that matter, doesn't Tony have some type of job in the organization? If he was unaware, it was a product of disinterest, not inability to obtain information.
Kahn hired the wrong GM, who blew a bunch of draft picks, hired the wrong HC (twice) and went all-in on a bad QB. He then complicated the the process, inserting Coughlin into a (publicly) undefined management role. How difficult is that to figure out?
(01-04-2021, 11:18 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ] (01-04-2021, 09:19 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Khan is not going all Jerry Jones.
Khan said for the immediate future he will have final say on players exiting and entering the team. In other words, Khan will need to be in the loop if anyone gets canned or signed by the team. You can't blame him after the Ramsey and Yannick problems. Those were guys you build around and got traded off.
In other words, the rich guy who knows nothing about football intends to micro-manage the GM's player decisions. What quality candidate will want the job under those conditions? Amateur hour continues......
....
Did you watch the Khan presser?
If you did, and that’s what you came away with, well... wow.
It seemed like his intent was to state he wouldn’t be doing this IMO.
He seemed intent on merely preventing another Coughlin-ing by being part of the conversation in major transactions.
Absolutely nothing he said suggested micromanagement.
Did you read the delegation vs abdication part?
Delegating is not micromanaging.
I wonder about how some of you manage to make it through the day...
Some of you have no idea what the term "micro-management" means. A business owner having the final say about how his money is handled is not micro-management.
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