02-10-2021, 06:34 PM
(02-10-2021, 02:16 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Why do they have to televise this pointless trial on EVERY FRIGGIN CHANNEL? I have no interest in this, I'm snowed in and there is nothing to do!
www.chess.com
(02-10-2021, 02:16 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Why do they have to televise this pointless trial on EVERY FRIGGIN CHANNEL? I have no interest in this, I'm snowed in and there is nothing to do!
(02-10-2021, 02:16 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Why do they have to televise this pointless trial on EVERY FRIGGIN CHANNEL? I have no interest in this, I'm snowed in and there is nothing to do!
(02-10-2021, 06:34 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ](02-10-2021, 02:16 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Why do they have to televise this pointless trial on EVERY FRIGGIN CHANNEL? I have no interest in this, I'm snowed in and there is nothing to do!
www.chess.com
(02-10-2021, 06:48 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ](02-10-2021, 02:16 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]Why do they have to televise this pointless trial on EVERY FRIGGIN CHANNEL? I have no interest in this, I'm snowed in and there is nothing to do!
Every Channel ????
Dude, you need a better antenna.
(02-10-2021, 07:03 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ](02-10-2021, 06:34 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]www.chess.com
I have no clue how to play chess.
(02-10-2021, 06:48 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Every Channel ????
Dude, you need a better antenna.
Don't laugh, but I was mad about it being on network TV. It replaced The Young and The Restless on CBS and the story lines were finally getting good.
(02-10-2021, 06:15 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ](02-10-2021, 02:53 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I just heard testimony that Trump spent 50 MILLION dollars on ads baselessly calling the election fraudulent between December 1st and January 6th. Wow.
His hands are dirty as [BLEEP].
His propensity to simply lie to a base that would rather adopt "alternative facts" than accept that he was lying through his teeth has finally caught up to him, and he'll be rightfully impeached for it.
Then it wasn’t his speech on the 6th the caused everyone to storm the capitol building? His commercials running for a month ahead of time whipped every one into a frenzy? Why wasn’t there more security in Washington that day if anyone really believed any of the [BLEEP] they’re now trying to push?
It was his speech, no, the commercials. No, it’s because he lies so impeach him!!!
Keep moving those goal posts around ...eventually you might land on something that sticks.
(02-10-2021, 06:15 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ](02-10-2021, 02:53 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I just heard testimony that Trump spent 50 MILLION dollars on ads baselessly calling the election fraudulent between December 1st and January 6th. Wow.
His hands are dirty as [BLEEP].
His propensity to simply lie to a base that would rather adopt "alternative facts" than accept that he was lying through his teeth has finally caught up to him, and he'll be rightfully impeached for it.
Then it wasn’t his speech on the 6th the caused everyone to storm the capitol building? His commercials running for a month ahead of time whipped every one into a frenzy? Why wasn’t there more security in Washington that day if anyone really believed any of the [BLEEP] they’re now trying to push?
It was his speech, no, the commercials. No, it’s because he lies so impeach him!!!
Keep moving those goal posts around ...eventually you might land on something that sticks.
(02-10-2021, 07:06 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ](02-10-2021, 07:03 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I have no clue how to play chess.
Don't laugh, but I was mad about it being on network TV. It replaced The Young and The Restless on CBS and the story lines were finally getting good.
I’ll reserve my laughter. It actually takes a man to admit that. But if you don’t know how to play chess, do you have a wife? You can try playing with that...
(02-10-2021, 10:54 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]Only two people have the authority to call up the national guard in Washington DC. That is the President and the Secretary of Defense. Neither of those positions are held by Mike Pence.
https://dc.ng.mil/About-Us/
(02-10-2021, 12:17 PM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ](02-10-2021, 11:19 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]This whole thing is a waste of time and taxpayer dollars. How anyone with half a brain can say this is constitutional is beyond me.
I loathed Trump's rantings and ravings but he exposed the truth about the government and the media and, at the very end, big tech in ways we have never seen before. His disposition certainly exposed the progressive left's hate and discontent for all things they don't agree with. I knew they could be self absorbed and whiny, I was truly surprised at how vicious they are when their little safety bubble is disrupted and they have to exist outside of their fantasyland. Life isn't a safe space you jacktards.
The Republicans who voted in favor of this sham have sold their souls to the lowest bidder and will reap what they sow when the Democrats come after them at some point, or they're voted out of office. I do believe Trump was right when he said, "they're not after me, they're after you. I'm just in their way." Or however he said it. They're coming after anyone who is not for them, whether it's from DC or the education system, the media or big tech.
Because it is patently constitutional? The mother [BLEEP] incited a riot.
Your dislike of the left has entirely blinded you to reality. My condolences.
(02-10-2021, 11:35 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ](02-10-2021, 12:17 PM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ]Because it is patently constitutional? The mother [BLEEP] incited a riot.
Your dislike of the left has entirely blinded you to reality. My condolences.
Dude, learn something. Impeachment is to remove an official from office. He is no longer president. How do you remove someone who is not there? I have read opinions on this from lawyers on all sides and they all said it is not constitutional.
My dislike of politicians in general has me seeing just fine. They're all corrupt.
(02-10-2021, 11:54 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Mike is an authoritarian lackey. He still believes the MSM who has a PROVEN track record of lying about Trump. He doesn't care about facts. Pence calling in the national guard fits his narrative. It was packaged for him to readily digest, so he eats it up, and regurgitates it. Without questioning it. How many times do you need to be lied to, bro?
Look, is there a chance Pence called the national guard? Sure, I guess. But we are talking about Mike freaking Pence. The guy that wouldn't turn on Trump when Pelosi unconstitutionally suggested he do so. Pence. The guy who wouldn't challenge the electoral votes even though Trump told him to do so. Pence is basically the walking embodiment of rule-following. I guess he could have just been like, "[BLEEP] it," I'm going in.
How about, if I can say there is some chance, however small, that Pence broke rank for the first time in his life and made an executive decision on his own, can you just admit there is a chance the petty, lying media just fed you another [BLEEP] story about Trump? Can you give me something today, Mikey? Or am I going to have to read your response that will probably go something like, "Um, actually, Pence knew he had to do this to save lies, and the if the media were lying, people clearly wouldn't watch it anymore, duh."
(02-11-2021, 07:55 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ](02-10-2021, 11:54 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Mike is an authoritarian lackey. He still believes the MSM who has a PROVEN track record of lying about Trump. He doesn't care about facts. Pence calling in the national guard fits his narrative. It was packaged for him to readily digest, so he eats it up, and regurgitates it. Without questioning it. How many times do you need to be lied to, bro?
Look, is there a chance Pence called the national guard? Sure, I guess. But we are talking about Mike freaking Pence. The guy that wouldn't turn on Trump when Pelosi unconstitutionally suggested he do so. Pence. The guy who wouldn't challenge the electoral votes even though Trump told him to do so. Pence is basically the walking embodiment of rule-following. I guess he could have just been like, "[BLEEP] it," I'm going in.
How about, if I can say there is some chance, however small, that Pence broke rank for the first time in his life and made an executive decision on his own, can you just admit there is a chance the petty, lying media just fed you another [BLEEP] story about Trump? Can you give me something today, Mikey? Or am I going to have to read your response that will probably go something like, "Um, actually, Pence knew he had to do this to save lies, and the if the media were lying, people clearly wouldn't watch it anymore, duh."
You didn't do what I asked.
I don't care how likely you think it is that Pence or Miller did something Trump didn't want them to do.
I asked you, and any other Trumper, if it was proven that Trump didn't want to call the NG and someone else did it for him, would you finally agree with me, that the Senate should convict and Trump should never hold office again?
(02-11-2021, 08:18 AM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ](02-11-2021, 07:55 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]You didn't do what I asked.
I don't care how likely you think it is that Pence or Miller did something Trump didn't want them to do.
I asked you, and any other Trumper, if it was proven that Trump didn't want to call the NG and someone else did it for him, would you finally agree with me, that the Senate should convict and Trump should never hold office again?
No. What are you even talking about?
1.) This entire proceeding is patently unconstitutional.
2.) He is charged with inciting a riot. I am a little fuzzy how asking a group of people to peacefully go down to the capital and cheer on people who vote their way is "inciting a riot."
This isn't about justice, the constitution or anything of the sort. This is about codifying collective justice into the American Ethos through political theater. Plain and simple. There is no way that You could establish Mens Rea to support the Idea that Trump wanted the protestors to devolve into a riot. That's childish. This is about, well the people who did it were trump supporters, so that means that Trump or anyone who supported him, funded him, or helped him can then be essentially unpersoned under the law. We don't believe in collective guilt in this country. We believe that each person should be judged on their own actions, intentions, and behaviors. We also believe in a free society, so much so that the freedom of speech is enshrined in the first amendment. In a free society speech ESPECIALLY INCENDIARY POLITICAL SPEECH is not only allowed but essential to the public discourse as an alternative to persistent civil war. Any individual that DIRECTS or CALLS FOR VIOLENCE can be culpable. Obviously those who COMMIT VIOLENCE can be held culpable, but the insinuation that just because someone arouses passions that they are then responsible for anyone who acts out of said passions is fundamentally antithetical to a free society and the congress shoving aside the constitution to pursue that brand of collective justice would not just be an attack on our democratic republic, but the end of it!
(02-11-2021, 07:55 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ](02-10-2021, 11:54 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Mike is an authoritarian lackey. He still believes the MSM who has a PROVEN track record of lying about Trump. He doesn't care about facts. Pence calling in the national guard fits his narrative. It was packaged for him to readily digest, so he eats it up, and regurgitates it. Without questioning it. How many times do you need to be lied to, bro?
Look, is there a chance Pence called the national guard? Sure, I guess. But we are talking about Mike freaking Pence. The guy that wouldn't turn on Trump when Pelosi unconstitutionally suggested he do so. Pence. The guy who wouldn't challenge the electoral votes even though Trump told him to do so. Pence is basically the walking embodiment of rule-following. I guess he could have just been like, "[BLEEP] it," I'm going in.
How about, if I can say there is some chance, however small, that Pence broke rank for the first time in his life and made an executive decision on his own, can you just admit there is a chance the petty, lying media just fed you another [BLEEP] story about Trump? Can you give me something today, Mikey? Or am I going to have to read your response that will probably go something like, "Um, actually, Pence knew he had to do this to save lies, and the if the media were lying, people clearly wouldn't watch it anymore, duh."
You didn't do what I asked.
I don't care how likely you think it is that Pence or Miller did something Trump didn't want them to do.
I asked you, and any other Trumper, if it was proven that Trump didn't want to call the NG and someone else did it for him, would you finally agree with me, that the Senate should convict and Trump should never hold office again?
(02-11-2021, 08:18 AM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ](02-11-2021, 07:55 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]You didn't do what I asked.
I don't care how likely you think it is that Pence or Miller did something Trump didn't want them to do.
I asked you, and any other Trumper, if it was proven that Trump didn't want to call the NG and someone else did it for him, would you finally agree with me, that the Senate should convict and Trump should never hold office again?
No. What are you even talking about?
1.) This entire proceeding is patently unconstitutional.
(02-11-2021, 09:09 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ](02-11-2021, 08:18 AM)jj82284 Wrote: [ -> ]No. What are you even talking about?
1.) This entire proceeding is patently unconstitutional.
Stopped reading there.
You're wrong, it is constitutional, but lets agree to disagree about it.
Let's pretend McConnell treated this like an emergency and the trial was happening but it wasn't January 20 yet. Now answer my question.
(02-11-2021, 09:22 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ](02-11-2021, 09:09 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Stopped reading there.
You're wrong, it is constitutional, but lets agree to disagree about it.
Let's pretend McConnell treated this like an emergency and the trial was happening but it wasn't January 20 yet. Now answer my question.
But it’s February 11th. That ship has sailed off into the sunset. End credits...turn the lights on and don’t forget to throw away your popcorn bucket on the way out.
(02-11-2021, 09:26 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ](02-11-2021, 09:22 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]But it’s February 11th. That ship has sailed off into the sunset. End credits...turn the lights on and don’t forget to throw away your popcorn bucket on the way out.
And Trump gets to run again in 2024?