(02-02-2021, 04:48 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]Sucks to be Khan having to pay all these cats and the outgoing chumps as well. Lot of money going out there man.
To many chiefs?
Welp i certainly am not going to feel sorry for the billionaire. I was thinking about this the other day and wondering how much the combined staff makes in a year. Is it closer to franchise qb pay, or closer to bortles pay.
Either way the urbs apparently has an open checkbook. None of my concern go buy us a championship, im down.
(02-02-2021, 04:48 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]Sucks to be Khan having to pay all these cats and the outgoing chumps as well. Lot of money going out there man.
To many chiefs?
His net worth is $7.9 Billion... I think he'll be ok.
Be on the lookout for the 'ball security coordinator' (Coughlin: "they exhibited a callous disregard for the football!") , and the 'sideline presentation coordinator' (to ensure proper media presentation of coaches and players during gametime) hires. Also coming soon: the 'kickoff maintenance specialist', who will be responsible for removing the kicking tee after a kick off.
(02-03-2021, 01:12 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]Be on the lookout for the 'ball security coordinator' (Coughlin: "they exhibited a callous disregard for the football!") , and the 'sideline presentation coordinator' (to ensure proper media presentation of coaches and players during gametime) hires. Also coming soon: the 'kickoff maintenance specialist', who will be responsible for removing the kicking tee after a kick off.
Another staffing requirement is "zephyr tee replacement specialist" in case the wind knocks the ball off the tee before kickoff, they don't want to risk the kicker bending over and getting it himself.
(02-02-2021, 10:33 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2021, 09:37 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Several teams employ specialized coaches under their OC and/or DC that help facilitate running game or passing game.
This is nothing new, nor is it a symbolic position.
Duties that sometimes fall within the scope of a passing game coordinator can include:
doubling as the WR coach
Designing plays for redzone passing and third down passing
Calling pass plays in-game for the above situations
Working closely with the QB coach to translate the players' skillset to effective plays and play calling
It's a made up title to keep coaches, mainly in college, from being able to leave or to elevate title when needed. It is mostly symbolic, but it does help show the coach is working with the OC on passing (WR, TE, QB) to make it all work.
It really just is given to a more experienced coach who a position coach title would hurt their ego. Saying WR or QB coach who helps with passing game (you know actually doing your job) doesn't sound as good as Passing game coordinator.
NYJ/JAX/KC/GB/ATL/SEA have an Offensive Passing Game Coord/Specialist
BAL/LAC/DET/SEA have a Defensive Passing Game Coord/Specialist
(02-03-2021, 01:16 PM)imtheblkranger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2021, 10:33 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]It's a made up title to keep coaches, mainly in college, from being able to leave or to elevate title when needed. It is mostly symbolic, but it does help show the coach is working with the OC on passing (WR, TE, QB) to make it all work.
It really just is given to a more experienced coach who a position coach title would hurt their ego. Saying WR or QB coach who helps with passing game (you know actually doing your job) doesn't sound as good as Passing game coordinator.
NYJ/JAX/KC/GB/ATL/SEA have an Offensive Passing Game Coord/Specialist
BAL/LAC/DET/SEA have a Defensive Passing Game Coord/Specialist
Basically it's a job a HC can create to give his buddies free money from owners that don't know any better
I think it's more of a position that the coach thinks is of value that gives people who don't know the responsibilities can [BLEEP] about.
(02-03-2021, 01:15 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ] (02-03-2021, 01:12 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]Be on the lookout for the 'ball security coordinator' (Coughlin: "they exhibited a callous disregard for the football!") , and the 'sideline presentation coordinator' (to ensure proper media presentation of coaches and players during gametime) hires. Also coming soon: the 'kickoff maintenance specialist', who will be responsible for removing the kicking tee after a kick off.
Another staffing requirement is "zephyr tee replacement specialist" in case the wind knocks the ball off the tee before kickoff, they don't want to risk the kicker bending over and getting it himself.
Possible hire in 3 or so years, the 'misinformation and ambiguites specialist', who will attempt to explain to the media and fan base why Urban Meyer unexpectedly decided to leave Jacksonville to become a charter fan boat captain in Burma.
(02-02-2021, 11:34 AM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]He did a really nice job as OC up in Seattle but I'm getting a bit worried with all these hires and these ubiquitous job titles.
Just seems once again we will not be sure who is and isnt responsible for what.
Which doesn’t matter one bit. Win football games.
My understanding is that the Jaguars will not hire a quarterbacks coach. In this case, I think "passing game coordinator" largely means quarterbacks coach, but is a nicer title to show respect to his experience. I suspect he may have a little more influence over the weekly offensive plan than the typical quarterbacks coach. The title also gives him more latitude to give advice to the wide receivers coach or tight ends coach or any other coach that impacts the passing game. He's an experienced offensive coordinator, so the Jaguars might as well use his experience to their benefit. I would think of him as the quarterbacks coach. Anything above and beyond that is a bonus.
Dude can hire a 1000 coaches for all I care.. As long as it translates to wins..
(02-03-2021, 03:25 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Dude can hire a 1000 coaches for all I care.. As long as it translates to wins..
That's pretty much 20 coaches per every 1 player on the active roster. Perhaps that's what Gabbert and Bortles were lacking.
(02-03-2021, 03:25 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Dude can hire a 1000 coaches for all I care.. As long as it translates to wins..
Exactly. There is no salary cap for coaches and training staff. If I'm Khan, I'm paying for the best assistants possible. I am paying them so much that they think twice before leaving for other teams.
(02-03-2021, 01:36 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-02-2021, 11:34 AM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]He did a really nice job as OC up in Seattle but I'm getting a bit worried with all these hires and these ubiquitous job titles.
Just seems once again we will not be sure who is and isnt responsible for what.
Which doesn’t matter one bit. Win football games.
Of course, that's what weve been doing the last 3 years apparently. Khan made a big point about accountability and I'm waiting to see the whole staff put together first.
I feel better knowing I’m not the only who has never heard of a passing game coordinator?
(02-03-2021, 10:01 PM)EricC85 Wrote: [ -> ]I feel better knowing I’m not the only who has never heard of a passing game coordinator?
It's just another title so you can hire someone without needing another teams permission. I want QB coach X but I already have an offensive coordinator and the other team will refuse to let me hire him as our QB coach, so create passing game coordinator elevated title and the other team can't refuse since it's technically a promotion.
(02-03-2021, 10:23 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ] (02-03-2021, 10:01 PM)EricC85 Wrote: [ -> ]I feel better knowing I’m not the only who has never heard of a passing game coordinator?
It's just another title so you can hire someone without needing another teams permission. I want QB coach X but I already have an offensive coordinator and the other team will refuse to let me hire him as our QB coach, so create passing game coordinator elevated title and the other team can't refuse since it's technically a promotion.
It depends on where the hierarchy a passing game coordinator ranks. To me it sounds like a grey area.
(02-03-2021, 11:45 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ] (02-03-2021, 10:23 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]It's just another title so you can hire someone without needing another teams permission. I want QB coach X but I already have an offensive coordinator and the other team will refuse to let me hire him as our QB coach, so create passing game coordinator elevated title and the other team can't refuse since it's technically a promotion.
It depends on where the hierarchy a passing game coordinator ranks. To me it sounds like a grey area.
I think any coordinator title is higher than any positional coach title.
(02-03-2021, 10:23 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ] (02-03-2021, 10:01 PM)EricC85 Wrote: [ -> ]I feel better knowing I’m not the only who has never heard of a passing game coordinator?
It's just another title so you can hire someone without needing another teams permission. I want QB coach X but I already have an offensive coordinator and the other team will refuse to let me hire him as our QB coach, so create passing game coordinator elevated title and the other team can't refuse since it's technically a promotion.
But we didn’t need Seattle’s permission, Schotty was fired.
(02-03-2021, 10:01 PM)EricC85 Wrote: [ -> ]I feel better knowing I’m not the only who has never heard of a passing game coordinator?
Mike Lafleur