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(05-11-2021, 10:31 AM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]Trump won, BY A LOT!! We have an illegal and illegitimate government right now.


https://townhall.com/columnists/wayneall...n-n2589148

"As reported by Reuters, state and federal judges - some appointed by Trump - dismissed more than 50 lawsuits brought by Trump or his allies alleging election fraud and other irregularities."

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...SKBN2AF1G1

(05-11-2021, 11:34 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2021, 10:31 AM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]Trump won, BY A LOT!! We have an illegal and illegitimate government right now.


https://townhall.com/columnists/wayneall...n-n2589148

"As reported by Reuters, state and federal judges - some appointed by Trump - dismissed more than 50 lawsuits brought by Trump or his allies alleging election fraud and other irregularities."

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factc...SKBN2AF1G1

first Reuters is a biased hack of a organization, secondly, the judges are scared to touch this.  But finally, that link DOES NOTHING to discount what I posted, not a single thing.

(05-11-2021, 11:12 AM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2021, 11:03 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]You are really an ignoramus if you buy the stuff in that column.  All that stuff has been debunked long ago.

Ya, by whom. Do you have sources?

Why would I bother to post sources for you when you would refuse to read them?

(05-11-2021, 12:47 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2021, 11:12 AM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]Ya, by whom. Do you have sources?

Why would I bother to post sources for you when you would refuse to read them?

I would and have read them, and you post them to support your argument. If your argument holds water, you will have reliable sources to back you up. I just want you to refute specifically what the article says with facts and not your FEEEELINGS...

(05-11-2021, 01:04 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2021, 12:47 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Why would I bother to post sources for you when you would refuse to read them?

I would and have read them, and you post them to support your argument. If your argument holds water, you will have reliable sources to back you up. I just want you to refute specifically what the article says with facts and not your FEEEELINGS...

No, I'm not going to bother.  Because no matter what I post, you will claim it's all part of this giant liberal conspiracy to steal the election.  So there's no point.  All the facts are readily available to you if you really want to know the truth.

Lol. Dude. Have some credibility. Every time I've challenged you with facts and challenge you to REFUTE it, you disappear. I haven't read that article yet, but I've already posted plenty that is worth discussing. You just don't have anything but the talking points of dismissed by the courts and the generic, "it was investigated."

Let's see some facts, bro.

There was massive voter fraud in the 2020 election. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. Just because some time has passed and people pretend to have forgotten just how bad it was, doesn't change the fact that it still happened.

It's warm in here with all these sheep.

Just read the article. Nothing new in it.

(05-11-2021, 01:27 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Lol. Dude. Have some credibility. Every time I've challenged you with facts and challenge you to REFUTE it, you disappear. I haven't read that article yet, but I've already posted plenty that is worth discussing. You just don't have anything but the talking points of dismissed by the courts and the generic, "it was investigated."

Let's see some facts, bro.

This thread is loaded with facts that you ignore, but you are right about one thing, the truth is out there and people see with their own eyes, the election was stolen, Biden is not the legal President and if you refuse to see that, you cannot call yourself an American, because a real American would not accept the crimes that have been perpetuated against this country. Refute? You haven't refuted squat with anything close to resembling credible, what a joke.

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"Here are the questions I want answered.

-- If Democrats didn't rig and steal the election, why are they so afraid of forensic audits in key battleground states, specifically the current audit in Arizona?

-- When Trump was an 8-to-1 landslide favorite with bettors around the world late on election night and clearly headed toward a landslide electoral victory, why did five states suddenly announce they would pause counting for the night? And how come Biden was suddenly ahead by morning?

-- How come Michigan apparently had a dump of 149,772 votes at 6:31 a.m. on Nov. 4, 96% of which went to Biden?

-- How did Wisconsin count 149,520 votes for Biden from 3:26 to 3:44 a.m. on Nov. 4?

-- How come Philadelphia vote counters were so desperate to keep witnesses out of the counting room? Why did they refuse entry to witnesses (to Republicans) until those witnesses had a court order in hand?

-- Why were the windows in a vote-counting location in Detroit covered with cardboard so nobody (no Republican) could see inside?

-- There are videotapes filmed in Detroit of vans pulling up in the middle of the night with what obviously look like boxes of ballots. In Atlanta, there are videotapes that clearly show ballot containers appearing at a vote-counting location after a fake water main break was used to force all GOP witnesses out of the counting room. Why can't we discuss these videotapes?


-- How come the Arizona Senate's liaison for the vote audit says Maricopa County hasn't complied with the subpoena by turning over passwords to Dominion voting machines?

-- How come the Biden DOJ suddenly wants to stop the Arizona audit?"

Not sure L2Ls post was directed at you.

(05-11-2021, 01:33 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure L2Ls post was directed at you.

LOL, i just reread it. 

My bad L2L...

(05-11-2021, 01:31 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2021, 01:27 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Lol. Dude. Have some credibility. Every time I've challenged you with facts and challenge you to REFUTE it, you disappear. I haven't read that article yet, but I've already posted plenty that is worth discussing. You just don't have anything but the talking points of dismissed by the courts and the generic, "it was investigated."

Let's see some facts, bro.

This thread is loaded with facts that you ignore, but you are right about one thing, the truth is out there and people see with their own eyes, the election was stolen, Biden is not the legal President and if you refuse to see that, you cannot call yourself an American, because a real American would not accept the crimes that have been perpetuated against this country. Refute? You haven't refuted squat with anything close to resembling credible, what a joke.

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"Here are the questions I want answered.
       

       -- When Trump was an 8-to-1 landslide favorite with bettors around the world late on election night and clearly headed toward a landslide electoral victory, why did five states suddenly announce they would pause counting for the night? And how come Biden was suddenly ahead by morning?

       

That one's easy and I'm amazed it is still coming up.  It's because more Democrats were voting by absentee ballot than Republicans, and the Republican legislatures did not allow elections officials to start counting absentee ballots until election night.  I even posted a prediction, prior to the election, that Trump would be ahead on election night and Biden would pull ahead in the days afterwards as the absentee ballots were counted.  Trump discouraged his supporters from voting by mail.  

Secondly, Trump was not a favorite with bettors around the world.  That is nonsense.  Everyone knew Biden was going to win, because almost all the polls showed him 6 to 10 points ahead nationwide.  

But how can any serious person not know that?  Everyone knew that.  

And that's what tells me you are not serious about wanting to know the truth.  I don't know why, but for some reason, you want to keep up this bull [BLEEP] about a stolen election.  It's complete nonsense.  Every court in the country said there is no credible evidence of it.

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(05-11-2021, 01:27 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Lol. Dude. Have some credibility. Every time I've challenged you with facts and challenge you to REFUTE it, you disappear. I haven't read that article yet, but I've already posted plenty that is worth discussing. You just don't have anything but the talking points of dismissed by the courts and the generic, "it was investigated."

Let's see some facts, bro.

Because these so-called facts have come up over and over and over and been refuted over and over and over.  Why would I bother?  I'd be going down a rat hole.  There's no end to this, because people like you will not see the truth.  You refuse.  It's bull [BLEEP].  You should be smarter than this.

(05-11-2021, 01:56 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2021, 01:31 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]This thread is loaded with facts that you ignore, but you are right about one thing, the truth is out there and people see with their own eyes, the election was stolen, Biden is not the legal President and if you refuse to see that, you cannot call yourself an American, because a real American would not accept the crimes that have been perpetuated against this country. Refute? You haven't refuted squat with anything close to resembling credible, what a joke.

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"Here are the questions I want answered.
       

       -- When Trump was an 8-to-1 landslide favorite with bettors around the world late on election night and clearly headed toward a landslide electoral victory, why did five states suddenly announce they would pause counting for the night? And how come Biden was suddenly ahead by morning?

       

That one's easy and I'm amazed it is still coming up.  It's because more Democrats were voting by absentee ballot than Republicans, and the Republican legislatures did not allow elections officials to start counting absentee ballots until election night.  I even posted a prediction, prior to the election, that Trump would be ahead on election night and Biden would pull ahead in the days afterwards as the absentee ballots were counted.  Trump discouraged his supporters from voting by mail.  

Secondly, Trump was not a favorite with bettors around the world.  That is nonsense.  Everyone knew Biden was going to win, because almost all the polls showed him 6 to 10 points ahead nationwide.  

But how can any serious person not know that?  Everyone knew that.  

And that's what tells me you are not serious about wanting to know the truth.  I don't know why, but for some reason, you want to keep up this bull [BLEEP] about a stolen election.  It's complete nonsense.  Every court in the country said there is no credible evidence of it.

"Every court in the country said so huh?" IS that a fact? First there are thousands and thousands of courts and secondly, most courts would not EVEN HEAR THE ARGUMENTS. So, you either willfully lying or ignorant on the subject matter. Which is it?

(05-11-2021, 01:59 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2021, 01:56 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]That one's easy and I'm amazed it is still coming up.  It's because more Democrats were voting by absentee ballot than Republicans, and the Republican legislatures did not allow elections officials to start counting absentee ballots until election night.  I even posted a prediction, prior to the election, that Trump would be ahead on election night and Biden would pull ahead in the days afterwards as the absentee ballots were counted.  Trump discouraged his supporters from voting by mail.  

Secondly, Trump was not a favorite with bettors around the world.  That is nonsense.  Everyone knew Biden was going to win, because almost all the polls showed him 6 to 10 points ahead nationwide.  

But how can any serious person not know that?  Everyone knew that.  

And that's what tells me you are not serious about wanting to know the truth.  I don't know why, but for some reason, you want to keep up this bull [BLEEP] about a stolen election.  It's complete nonsense.  Every court in the country said there is no credible evidence of it.

"Every court in the country said so huh?" IS that a fact? First there are thousands and thousands of courts and secondly, most courts would not EVEN HEAR THE ARGUMENTS. So, you either willfully lying or ignorant on the subject matter. Which is it?

Every court where a case was brought said, "show the evidence and if it is credible, we will go forward."  And every time, the judge wound up ruling that there was no credible evidence and threw the case out.

(05-11-2021, 02:00 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2021, 01:59 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]"Every court in the country said so huh?" IS that a fact? First there are thousands and thousands of courts and secondly, most courts would not EVEN HEAR THE ARGUMENTS. So, you either willfully lying or ignorant on the subject matter. Which is it?

Every court where a case was brought said, "show the evidence and if it is credible, we will go forward."  And every time, the judge wound up ruling that there was no credible evidence and threw the case out.

WRONG!!, the reason is because they wanted to get rid of Donald Trump at any and all cost.

Oh look what happens when a COURT DOES HEAR THE CASE. We get an audit...


https://welovetrump.com/2020/12/08/amid-...n-lawsuit/

(05-11-2021, 02:01 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2021, 02:00 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Every court where a case was brought said, "show the evidence and if it is credible, we will go forward."  And every time, the judge wound up ruling that there was no credible evidence and threw the case out.

WRONG!!, the reason is because they wanted to get rid of Donald Trump at any and all cost.

Okay, there you go.  That must be it.  Even judges that Trump appointed wanted to get rid of him.  Right?

(05-11-2021, 02:05 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2021, 02:01 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]WRONG!!, the reason is because they wanted to get rid of Donald Trump at any and all cost.

Okay, there you go.  That must be it.  Even judges that Trump appointed wanted to get rid of him.  Right?

Oh look what happens when a COURT DOES HEAR THE CASE. We get an audit...


https://welovetrump.com/2020/12/08/amid-...n-lawsuit/

(05-11-2021, 02:06 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2021, 02:05 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Okay, there you go.  That must be it.  Even judges that Trump appointed wanted to get rid of him.  Right?

Oh look what happens when a COURT DOES HEAR THE CASE. We get an audit...


https://welovetrump.com/2020/12/08/amid-...n-lawsuit/

From your article:  

It came after a Maricopa County judge ruled that Ward’s petition failed to prove any fraud occurred when she tried to challenge the results in the county, which includes Phoenix.

On Nov. 30, Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey and Attorney General Mark Brnovich signed off on Secretary of State Katie Hobbs’ certification of the election results. All three officials said they have seen no evidence of fraud that would overturn the election results in the state.

(05-11-2021, 02:08 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2021, 02:06 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]Oh look what happens when a COURT DOES HEAR THE CASE. We get an audit...


https://welovetrump.com/2020/12/08/amid-...n-lawsuit/

From your article:  

It came after a Maricopa County judge ruled that Ward’s petition failed to prove any fraud occurred when she tried to challenge the results in the county, which includes Phoenix.

On Nov. 30, Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey and Attorney General Mark Brnovich signed off on Secretary of State Katie Hobbs’ certification of the election results. All three officials said they have seen no evidence of fraud that would overturn the election results in the state.

And still, they have an audit going on that the democrat party is trying to stop. And why is that? Why are they trying to stop it if they have nothing to hide?


Not a single court decision has had a hearing yet. They haven’t heard from a single witness. They haven’t looked at a single tape. They haven’t listened to a single recording.’

The baffling question to neutral observers is: Why don’t they want to know?

"Hear no fraud, see no fraud, speak no fraud. Can’t we just move on? We all know Democrats cheat. But never enough to affect the result. Never, you understand. And what are we supposed to do about it now? The people have spoken. Look, even the dead voted in this election, and there’s no arguing with them."

(05-11-2021, 02:13 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-11-2021, 02:08 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]From your article:  

It came after a Maricopa County judge ruled that Ward’s petition failed to prove any fraud occurred when she tried to challenge the results in the county, which includes Phoenix.

On Nov. 30, Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey and Attorney General Mark Brnovich signed off on Secretary of State Katie Hobbs’ certification of the election results. All three officials said they have seen no evidence of fraud that would overturn the election results in the state.

And still, they have an audit going on that the democrat party is trying to stop. And why is that? Why are they trying to stop it if they have nothing to hide?


Not a single court decision has had a hearing yet. They haven’t heard from a single witness. They haven’t looked at a single tape. They haven’t listened to a single recording.’

The baffling question to neutral observers is: Why don’t they want to know?

If you really want to know the answer to that question, go to Google and type in, "why are the democrats trying to stop the arizona election audit"  And you will find many articles on the subject.

And you're wrong when you say not a single court has had a hearing.  Dozens of courts have had hearings, and the judges have asked, what evidence do you have?  If you have any solid evidence, then we can go forward with this case.  And the judges always wound up ruling, you have not presented any solid evidence, so we cannot go forward.  

You don't get to just go to court and have a case.  You have to meet a certain standard or your case will get thrown out.  And that's what happened every time.  Even judges appointed by Trump threw these cases out, because there was no solid evidence.