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(04-26-2021, 12:00 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Story in ProFootballTalk

The Falcons want to unload him, apparently.

No, I wouldn't trade anything for him and his bloated salary and his injury history. The team isn't one player away.

(04-26-2021, 01:04 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-26-2021, 12:00 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Story in ProFootballTalk

The Falcons want to unload him, apparently.

No.

We just signed Jones and I rather give playing time to Chark, Schenault and even Johnson

(04-27-2021, 07:57 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-26-2021, 04:52 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Except Trevor is not elite, he will be a rookie.

Yeah, Colts never drafted offense when Manning was there. KC doesn't care about offense as long as they have Mahomes. It also works great for Green bay to not give Rodgers any help... For Seattle too. 

Trevor needs help, he is not elite and won't be, at least for the first few years, much less if he doesn't get any help and a better offensive line.

So you spend picks and cash on Julio, that means either Marvin or Chark are losing snaps, you develop timing and familiarity with the guy, and in a year or two, he's gone and you get to start all over again with the process.

If there is only one position on this team where we can say we are not desperate for help, it would be WR. If Julio could bulk up and play LT, I'm all for dealing.

(04-27-2021, 11:25 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-26-2021, 01:04 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]No.

We just signed Jones and I rather give playing time to Chark, Schenault and even Johnson

(04-27-2021, 07:57 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]So you spend picks and cash on Julio, that means either Marvin or Chark are losing snaps, you develop timing and familiarity with the guy, and in a year or two, he's gone and you get to start all over again with the process.

If there is only one position on this team where we can say we are not desperate for help, it would be WR. If Julio could bulk up and play LT, I'm all for dealing.

why the squiggle?

in response to this

Quote:Peyton Manning put a lot of money in guys pockets like Eric Decker, Julius Thomas, Brandon Stokley, Zane Beadles, etc. These are all just guys. Lawrence is gonna be just fine with Pro Bowler Chark and All Purpose Shenault instead of 32 year old Julio Jones.

you posted

Quote:Except Trevor is not elite, he will be a rookie.

Yeah, Colts never drafted offense when Manning was there. KC doesn't care about offense as long as they have Mahomes. It also works great for Green bay to not give Rodgers any help... For Seattle too. 

Trevor needs help, he is not elite and won't be, at least for the first few years, much less if he doesn't get any help and a better offensive line.

In a thread all about trading for Julio, that sure sounds like you're contesting that TLaw will be fine with the receivers we got. So which side are you on, it seems like you are advocating for both.

(04-27-2021, 04:37 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-27-2021, 11:25 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]

why the squiggle?

in response to this

Quote:Peyton Manning put a lot of money in guys pockets like Eric Decker, Julius Thomas, Brandon Stokley, Zane Beadles, etc. These are all just guys. Lawrence is gonna be just fine with Pro Bowler Chark and All Purpose Shenault instead of 32 year old Julio Jones.

you posted

Quote:Except Trevor is not elite, he will be a rookie.

Yeah, Colts never drafted offense when Manning was there. KC doesn't care about offense as long as they have Mahomes. It also works great for Green bay to not give Rodgers any help... For Seattle too. 

Trevor needs help, he is not elite and won't be, at least for the first few years, much less if he doesn't get any help and a better offensive line.

In a thread all about trading for Julio, that sure sounds like you're contesting that TLaw will be fine with the receivers we got. So which side are you on, it seems like you are advocating for both.

If he were younger, absolutely. But he's not, so I wouldn't.

As for Offense vs Defense, I think our Defense will look more competent solely because we won't have Todd Wash running it. I think emphasizing offense might be a good idea in the draft. Give Trevor Lawrence the tools to succeed. This isn't a 'playoff or bust' year. It's the beginning of a new era, and we can build our defense as we go.

(04-26-2021, 04:52 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-26-2021, 03:42 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]What do you think I am wrong on ? You build an offense around an average QB. With an elite QB the offense is built. 

Peyton Manning put a lot of money in guys pockets like Eric Decker, Julius Thomas, Brandon Stokley, Zane Beadles, etc. These are all just guys. Lawrence is gonna be just fine with Pro Bowler Chark and All Purpose Shenault instead of 32 year old Julio Jones.

Except Trevor is not elite, he will be a rookie.

Yeah, Colts never drafted offense when Manning was there. KC doesn't care about offense as long as they have Mahomes. It also works great for Green bay to not give Rodgers any help... For Seattle too. 

Trevor needs help, he is not elite and won't be, at least for the first few years, much less if he doesn't get any help and a better offensive line.

Nobody said don’t draft offense. Stop being dramatic.

(04-26-2021, 01:16 PM)JaguarWC Wrote: [ -> ]personally, I am happy with our young wide receivers and Marvin Jones as a elder statesman.  I understand Julio Jones is a complete unit, but don't need to trade for a guy at this point unless it makes TOTAL sense.  SURE he is worth the position of a draft pick but this draft is deep as hell in WR and we also don't really have an immediate need.

Totally agree with this sentiment. Well said.

(04-28-2021, 01:10 AM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-26-2021, 04:52 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Except Trevor is not elite, he will be a rookie.

Yeah, Colts never drafted offense when Manning was there. KC doesn't care about offense as long as they have Mahomes. It also works great for Green bay to not give Rodgers any help... For Seattle too. 

Trevor needs help, he is not elite and won't be, at least for the first few years, much less if he doesn't get any help and a better offensive line.

Nobody said don’t draft offense. Stop being dramatic.

maybe you will get a gif too!

(04-28-2021, 01:10 AM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-26-2021, 04:52 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Except Trevor is not elite, he will be a rookie.

Yeah, Colts never drafted offense when Manning was there. KC doesn't care about offense as long as they have Mahomes. It also works great for Green bay to not give Rodgers any help... For Seattle too. 

Trevor needs help, he is not elite and won't be, at least for the first few years, much less if he doesn't get any help and a better offensive line.

Nobody said don’t draft offense. Stop being dramatic.

That is pretty much what you have been saying for months now lol.

I don't see any drop off in his stats except he missed 6 games last season with a hamstring.
45th pick is nothing to get him.

no way no how...the Falcons would quietly take the offer and then out of sight scream for joy..then ask themselves what else can we sell these fools?

Yes I would in a heart beat. Lawrence would love him too!

For me, a better question would be would I trade #45 for Hayden Hurst?

(04-29-2021, 07:33 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]For me, a better question would be would I trade #45 for Hayden Hurst?

I'd rather select Pat Freiermuth at 45.

(04-29-2021, 07:36 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-29-2021, 07:33 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]For me, a better question would be would I trade #45 for Hayden Hurst?

I'd rather select Pat Freiermuth at 45.

I am fine with Friermuth at 45.