(08-24-2021, 11:15 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-24-2021, 09:22 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Dude 14th is better than half the teams. 22 means you are worse than over 70% of teams in the league. 22 out of 32 is bad, sugar coat that however you wish. 22nd makes this a bottom 10 unit. Your delusional and a blind fanboy. I do not value your opinion and I doubt many others do.
You're clueless and have zero comprehension. Keep getting your opinions from NBC and CBS.
And trust me when I tell you that I couldn't give two [BLEEP] about what you value my opinion as, considering you have some of the worst takes on this board bud.
You may dislike my opinions but 9 times out of 10 I am right. Go all the way back when I said Del Rio was AVERAGE, Gene Smith Stunk, Caldwell was bad, while I called ice cream gus a bust by year two.
The truth is eventually most of the message board agrees with me it's just that I am year, two, three, sometimes four years ahead of some of you slow thinkers on the board. You can call my opinions many things but rarely wrong.
This is a 4-6 win team if I'm feeling optimistic. You can quote me on that and I will you another take since you are the slow thinking type. This team is a few years away from being average if things go right.
I often have unpopular opinions but they are mostly the correct ones. I'm a realist.
(08-24-2021, 11:43 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ] (08-24-2021, 11:15 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]You're clueless and have zero comprehension. Keep getting your opinions from NBC and CBS.
And trust me when I tell you that I couldn't give two [BLEEP] about what you value my opinion as, considering you have some of the worst takes on this board bud.
You may dislike my opinions but 9 times out of 10 I am right. Go all the way back when I said Del Rio was AVERAGE, Gene Smith Stunk, Caldwell was bad, while I called ice cream gus a bust by year two.
The truth is eventually most of the message board agrees with me it's just that I am year, two, three, sometimes four years ahead of some of you slow thinkers on the board. You can call my opinions many things but rarely wrong.
This is a 4-6 win team if I'm feeling optimistic. You can quote me on that and I will you another take since you are the slow thinking type. This team is a few years away from being average if things go right.
I often have unpopular opinions but they are mostly the correct ones. I'm a realist.
LOL and this guy calls me delusional
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I thought dead season was over?
(08-24-2021, 06:50 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]It's not a knock on Lawerence but more about the state of this football team. People who are non biased/blind can see this is a very bad football team and we may win only a few games this year. No sense in putting Lawerence in the Lions Den with very little help around him. Joe Burrow was in that same boat with the Bengals and look how that ended up. Lawerence is a competitor and will fight for every yard. The problem is this team is so void of Talent he is going to be asked to do too much. I think it maybe best to let Shew take over for the first half of the season and assess from there.
Lawerence got beat up in a little more than a half of a meaningless preseason game against the Saints. I shutter to think the Jaguars playing a strong pass rush going at full strength. Please dont' use the "X" player didn't play last night line. This team is mediocre with or without those players.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tas7z69D_w
....so you're unwilling to listen to reason?
all I needed to hear, not going to waste time discussing if you're already advertising that you don't care to actually discuss.
So let's toss a scenario out. We go the entire season with Cam at LT, Little comes in reserve duty only, and we have [insert non-TLaw QB] taking snaps all year. You're telling me next year you're gung-ho rolling TLaw out behind either a rookie LT or Little, assuming he still has concerns with hand speed and experience at LT? Or do we keep TLaw benched another year while the mediocre has a chance to ferment? @And don't go telling me Little will develop and improve.@
(08-24-2021, 07:02 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-24-2021, 06:54 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]I get what you're saying. Let Minshew take the beating until the OL gets it together. The only issue is the OL will apparently never get it together, so what's the point? All is lost.
The OL we'll be starting in 19 days will be a lot different than the one they trotted out last night.
Despite what some might think (or want to ignore), an OL with Cam/Norwell/Linder/Cann/Taylor is far better than an OL with Little/Bartch/Shatley/Cann/Taylor.
Eric, you're not following directions. remember the OP's demand.
(08-24-2021, 11:43 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ] (08-24-2021, 11:15 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]You're clueless and have zero comprehension. Keep getting your opinions from NBC and CBS.
And trust me when I tell you that I couldn't give two [BLEEP] about what you value my opinion as, considering you have some of the worst takes on this board bud.
You may dislike my opinions but 9 times out of 10 I am right. Go all the way back when I said Del Rio was AVERAGE, Gene Smith Stunk, Caldwell was bad, while I called ice cream gus a bust by year two.
The truth is eventually most of the message board agrees with me it's just that I am year, two, three, sometimes four years ahead of some of you slow thinkers on the board. You can call my opinions many things but rarely wrong.
This is a 4-6 win team if I'm feeling optimistic. You can quote me on that and I will you another take since you are the slow thinking type. This team is a few years away from being average if things go right.
I often have unpopular opinions but they are mostly the correct ones. I'm a realist.
....note not a single one of your prognostications is a positive? If you predict everyone to flame out, eventually you'll be right. And for the most part, those taeks are just parroting what the rest of the board was saying too. VERY unpopular opinions.
Good point... I hate to have this brand new QB ruined by trying to save a bad team.. Let's face it, this team is BAD..
I'll wait to see what the line looks like week one before thinking we have to bubble wrap a rookie QB.
If they can't protect him in that one, it's a worthy conversation. Premature as of now.
Is Minshew QB2 though? He hasn't looked like it in preseason.
(08-25-2021, 09:10 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (08-24-2021, 06:50 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]It's not a knock on Lawerence but more about the state of this football team. People who are non biased/blind can see this is a very bad football team and we may win only a few games this year. No sense in putting Lawerence in the Lions Den with very little help around him. Joe Burrow was in that same boat with the Bengals and look how that ended up. Lawerence is a competitor and will fight for every yard. The problem is this team is so void of Talent he is going to be asked to do too much. I think it maybe best to let Shew take over for the first half of the season and assess from there.
Lawerence got beat up in a little more than a half of a meaningless preseason game against the Saints. I shutter to think the Jaguars playing a strong pass rush going at full strength. Please dont' use the "X" player didn't play last night line. This team is mediocre with or without those players.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tas7z69D_w
....so you're unwilling to listen to reason?
all I needed to hear, not going to waste time discussing if you're already advertising that you don't care to actually discuss.
So let's toss a scenario out. We go the entire season with Cam at LT, Little comes in reserve duty only, and we have [insert non-TLaw QB] taking snaps all year. You're telling me next year you're gung-ho rolling TLaw out behind either a rookie LT or Little, assuming he still has concerns with hand speed and experience at LT? Or do we keep TLaw benched another year while the mediocre has a chance to ferment? @And don't go telling me Little will develop and improve.@
(08-24-2021, 07:02 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]The OL we'll be starting in 19 days will be a lot different than the one they trotted out last night.
Despite what some might think (or want to ignore), an OL with Cam/Norwell/Linder/Cann/Taylor is far better than an OL with Little/Bartch/Shatley/Cann/Taylor.
Eric, you're not following directions. remember the OP's demand.
The answer to your first part is spend money in free agency or trade. The second part your post puts you on the same slow bus as Eric. Window lickers.
(08-25-2021, 09:21 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (08-24-2021, 11:43 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]You may dislike my opinions but 9 times out of 10 I am right. Go all the way back when I said Del Rio was AVERAGE, Gene Smith Stunk, Caldwell was bad, while I called ice cream gus a bust by year two.
The truth is eventually most of the message board a ugrees with me it's just that I am year, two, three, sometimes four years ahead of some of you slow thinkers on the board. You can call my opinions many things but rarely wrong.
This is a 4-6 win team if I'm feeling optimistic. You can quote me on that and I will you another take since you are the slow thinking type. This team is a few years away from being average if things go right.
I often have unpopular opinions but they are mostly the correct ones. I'm a realist.
....note not a single one of your prognostications is a positive? If you predict everyone to flame out, eventually you'll be right. And for the most part, those taeks are just parroting what the rest of the board was saying too. VERY unpopular opinions.
Dude do you live under a rock? I said it before that Said it before that iI am a realist. We have had 1 winning season since 2007. We went through the Gene Smith Era and the Caldwell Era. This team holds on top mediocre coaches and management too long. We have the second worst record of the last decade
Why be positive? Again I live in reality and not feel good world. BTW, many of the board agree with me.
This type of opinion is what decades of pure suckness will do to a fan. My opinion is you harm the kid more by putting him on the bench. You absolutely play him every possible snap you can come regular season.
If he gets "shell shocked" then he wasn't the right guy anyway.
(08-25-2021, 12:19 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2021, 09:21 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]....note not a single one of your prognostications is a positive? If you predict everyone to flame out, eventually you'll be right. And for the most part, those taeks are just parroting what the rest of the board was saying too. VERY unpopular opinions.
Dude do you live under a rock? I said it before that Said it before that iI am a realist. We have had 1 winning season since 2007. We went through the Gene Smith Era and the Caldwell Era. This team holds on top mediocre coaches and management too long. We have the second worst record of the last decade
Why be positive? Again I live in reality and not feel good world. BTW, many of the board agree with me.
All of the predictions you're patting your own back over are things the vast majority here were saying, though.
It's not like you were banging the drum for some unknown prospect who ended up an All-Pro or called the team cutting their top-5 RB to roll with a UDFA RB or anything groundbreaking like that. Most everyone here was arguing that JDR was aggressively meh, Gene spent more effort on small school picks than nailing his first rounders, Dave overvalued need, blah blah blah.
Yay you, I guess.
We were a 1 and 15 team last year. We will continue to be that until we hopefully win more games than 1 in a season. That is reality. I view prognosticators, positive fans and negative fans the same way as the talking heads on TV. If they are as good as they pretend to be they would be paid to do that. If they hit on something, well even a blind squirrel finds acorns once in a while. That said they do provide entertainment while the Jags try and get it together. Bottom line I don't care who we have playing, until they play as a team this is what we should expect. So far this preseason a bunch of guys in Jag uniforms played 2 teams. That is not a complaint. It is unfair to expect them to have jelled into a team this early. This is a TOTAL rebuild with a lot of new guys, coaches and ways of doing things. Only advice I can give? Strap in it is going to be a bumpy ride....
(08-25-2021, 12:31 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]This type of opinion is what decades of pure suckness will do to a fan. My opinion is you harm the kid more by putting him on the bench. You absolutely play him every possible snap you can come regular season.
If he gets "shell shocked" then he wasn't the right guy anyway.
Yup, can't coach scared and can't play scared, nothing good comes from either.
And this bogus "oh what if he gets hurt" crap that some people bring up is a cop out excuse. It's football.. Sometimes players get hurt, it's the nature of the game. Of course we don't want it to happen, but you can't use that as a reason to handicap the kid and coddle him. I mean Bridgewater pretzel'd his knee in a non contact practice.. Should we not let Lawrence practice either because there's a possible risk he could get hurt there also?
You play the kid and don't look back. Otherwise, why did you take him #1..
(08-25-2021, 02:24 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (08-25-2021, 12:19 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Dude do you live under a rock? I said it before that Said it before that iI am a realist. We have had 1 winning season since 2007. We went through the Gene Smith Era and the Caldwell Era. This team holds on top mediocre coaches and management too long. We have the second worst record of the last decade
Why be positive? Again I live in reality and not feel good world. BTW, many of the board agree with me.
All of the predictions you're patting your own back over are things the vast majority here were saying, though.
It's not like you were banging the drum for some unknown prospect who ended up an All-Pro or called the team cutting their top-5 RB to roll with a UDFA RB or anything groundbreaking like that. Most everyone here was arguing that JDR was aggressively meh, Gene spent more effort on small school picks than nailing his first rounders, Dave overvalued need, blah blah blah.
Yay you, I guess.
Wrong! I normally had the statements a year or two before others. I get insulted and a year or two after the fact they share my view. I was wanting Gene bone after the second year and got called every name in the book, Dave after year 3, JDR after year 3, again I was insulted heavy by loyal blind fanboys like you appear to be about my "negative opinions". I am right in about every case. I am a dire hard fan but going to call this team out on the bad decisions they are making. How about we look at it from your angle!
This team is fantastic, they are doing a great job, what a superbly run franchise. Every team should be like the Jacksonville Jaguars, The Jaguars are contenders from this point. Sounds ridiculous right?
This team can go up or down from the point they are at. It's not looking promising so far.
(08-25-2021, 05:11 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]We were a 1 and 15 team last year. We will continue to be that until we hopefully win more games than 1 in a season. That is reality. I view prognosticators, positive fans and negative fans the same way as the talking heads on TV. If they are as good as they pretend to be they would be paid to do that. If they hit on something, well even a blind squirrel finds acorns once in a while. That said they do provide entertainment while the Jags try and get it together. Bottom line I don't care who we have playing, until they play as a team this is what we should expect. So far this preseason a bunch of guys in Jag uniforms played 2 teams. That is not a complaint. It is unfair to expect them to have jelled into a team this early. This is a TOTAL rebuild with a lot of new guys, coaches and ways of doing things. Only advice I can give? Strap in it is going to be a bumpy ride....
lolol i ain't got no beef with ya dude, just had to laugh at the Grants Tomb statement lolol