(08-29-2021, 04:11 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Even though it's live action football and ny football withdrawal has been sated, the abiding sense I have is mercifully, the preseason is over. I was especially eager to see it end because of the Etienne injury, and the desire to get out of the preseason without anyone else suffering any injury. Nevertheless, my beloved Jaguars played footall in the last tuneup before the season. My thoughts:
1. Even though many pooh pooh the preseason, it represents something very important for a lot of players-the chance to either continue their dreams or to move on to another phase of their careers. To those players who have toiled over many years to get to this point, to wear the teal and to provide Jaguars fans with entertainment, whether you make the team or not, I salute you. If you do not make the team and it represents the end of your NFL career, I wish you luck in your future endeavors. If you do not make the team and hope to continue your NFL careers elsewhere, I wish you luck in all your future endeavors except against the Jaguars. If you make the team, I congratulate you and hope you make us, the loyal Jaguars fans proud on and off the field.
2. Traditionally, you have to take preseason performances with a grain of salt because teams do not game plan for them under most circumstances, and in many times the starters do not play because teams want to protect their best players from possible injury. But there was always a sort of rhythm to the preseason in the past. The 3rd preseason game was the most important and instructve for most fans, because the starters usually played at least a half, and maybe up to 3 quarters, and you got a more accurate barometer as to how your team would fare against other teams starters. The 4th and final preseason game evolved into keeping starters out and letting the bubble guys play the most to give them a chance to either make the roster or put more stuff on tape for other teams to see. But with the reduction of the preseason to three games, and with two weeks between the last preseason game and the start of the regular season, it's a little tougher to get a feel for things. Some teams played their starters this week (e.g. Buffalo), while others like Dallas sat their starters. That said, even though it was just preseason, it was good to see what the offense might look like when Trevor Lawrence gets protection. For now, there is a little more hope.
3. CJ Henderson has been the subject of a lot of negative speculation this offseason and preseason, but his pursuit and run support hit of that receiver on the reverse seems like good indicia to me his head is in it. Cover corners often are not keen on run support or tackling. For him to willingly do so in the last preseason game against a guy who may not be in the league by Tuesday speaks well for him. I hope I am right about that, because this team needs him at his best. I think on the whole, the CBs were good in run support, as Sidney Jones and Chris Claybrooks both had good run support plays.
4. Given he was acquired during the summer and hasn't been the subject of much discussion, people tend to forget he was an All Pro and Pro bowl player for the Rams not too long ago. I thought Pharoah Cooper had a really good game. He had three nice punt returns and a TD catch. I don't know if that will be enough to secure him a spot on the final roster, but I'd certainly rate him above Phillip Dorsett and a few others.
5. Under the category of mixed feelings, I felt bad for Taven Bryan when he jumped offsides. You could tell from his reaction that he hated making that mistake and he wanted to make a big play. Fortunately for him, that penalty did not extend the drive even though his blunder made the 3rd down easier to convert. However, I am among many who have been disappointed with his tenure here, and thinks the team should and will move on from him.
6. I thought the special teams was good today. Aside from the nice punt returns, Cook had a good punt that pinned Dallas inside their 5, and Lambo made his FGs. Kick coverage was good, and there were no penalties for illegal blocks on returns.
7. Rookie Watch:
A. Trevor Lawrence-Imagine being a kid anticipating getting the toy you desperately want for Christmas. Christmas day finally arrives only for you to discover, to your horror, that your toy was missing essentially pieces, without which made it impossible for it to work properly, and you had to return it. After a few days, you finally manage to get a replacement with all of the parts, and it works beautifully. That was the analogy I drew watching Trevor Lawrence function with adequate protection. Given protection, he showed everything the scouts said he had...everything we'd seen of him at Clemson...everything reflected in the camp reports. He stood tall in the pocket, showed excellent accuracy on short, intermediate and deep passes, good arm strength and touch. He was also good on the run, showing good mobility on bootlegs. He even functioned well with decision making and accuracy in the red zone. Let this be a lesson to Baalke and Meyer. Make it a priority to get this man protection, and everyone but our opponents will be happy.
B. Travis Etienne-DNP-is on IR
C. Tyson Campbell-Did not notice him at all.
D. Walker Little-played extensively out of necessity due to Cam Robinson being out. Thought he played pretty well, allowing far fewer pressures this week than he did against the Saints. In run blocking, displayed the ability to reach the second level. Under normal circumstances, I would not want him in the game as late as he played, but he needs the reps.
E. Anthony Cisco-Had a good pass breakup right before the two minute warning. Otherwise did not notice him. Surprised he was playing this late in the game, because I have to think his spot is secure because he has impressed most of the preseason.
F. Jay Tufele-showed nice penetration on a play earl in the second half. He has shown flashes of ability in each of the three games. Typically, the bubble tends to form around guys taken in the 4th round where he was taken. I think he makes the team.
G. Jordan Smith-I saw him in on a tackle early in the game, and he also had a decent pressure. Late in the game he had an offsides penalty that negated a strip sack. At minimum he makes the practice squad.
H. Luke farrell-I saw him go in motion on a play, but I did not see him make any catches nor did I watch him closely in the running game.
I. Jalen Camp-Did not see him.
8. While these guys are not rookies, I think Laquon Treadwell, Jeff Cotton, Pharoah Cooper, and Cottrell (less so because of the fumble and the presence of Carlos Hyde) and Ozigbo have all made good impressions and are viable candidates for the final roster. Conversely, I'm not sure Collin Johnson fares well when the bubble bursts. I don't see Phillip Dorsett making it. Just as I was concluding Wallace Simms was having a decent game, he gave up a pressure and had a holding penalty on back to back plays. But I'm thinking a lack of quality OL depth keeps him around, unless someone unexpectedly gets cut from another roster.
9. Nice to see something out of Shaughnessy and Manhertz, but I'm still hoping a good pass catching TE is cut and we pick him up.
10. Gardner Minshew did not have as good of a year last year as he did his rookie year, but I think he has plenty to offer an NFL team as a backup. That said, I am okay with beathard as a backup QB, even though he threw the INT. Luton is a decent 3rd QB option, whether he is on the practice squad or, more likely, the practice squad.
11. It'll be interesting to see how the national media reacts to Trevor Lawrence's game today. My guess? They minimize his performance.
12. Bottom line: We'll feel better after today than we did either of the final two games. After all, it IS our first win of any kind since we beat the Colts opening day last year. But there are some issues with this team...which is to be expected one year removed from a 1-15 season. I do not want to jinx us, but it appears we managed to avoid any major injuries in this game. Assuming this to be true, despite our problems, I think we have a chance to beat Houston if we play well. But we gotta get our O line healthy.
(08-29-2021, 07:45 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ](08-29-2021, 04:11 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Even though it's live action football and ny football withdrawal has been sated, the abiding sense I have is mercifully, the preseason is over. I was especially eager to see it end because of the Etienne injury, and the desire to get out of the preseason without anyone else suffering any injury. Nevertheless, my beloved Jaguars played footall in the last tuneup before the season. My thoughts:
1. Even though many pooh pooh the preseason, it represents something very important for a lot of players-the chance to either continue their dreams or to move on to another phase of their careers. To those players who have toiled over many years to get to this point, to wear the teal and to provide Jaguars fans with entertainment, whether you make the team or not, I salute you. If you do not make the team and it represents the end of your NFL career, I wish you luck in your future endeavors. If you do not make the team and hope to continue your NFL careers elsewhere, I wish you luck in all your future endeavors except against the Jaguars. If you make the team, I congratulate you and hope you make us, the loyal Jaguars fans proud on and off the field.
2. Traditionally, you have to take preseason performances with a grain of salt because teams do not game plan for them under most circumstances, and in many times the starters do not play because teams want to protect their best players from possible injury. But there was always a sort of rhythm to the preseason in the past. The 3rd preseason game was the most important and instructve for most fans, because the starters usually played at least a half, and maybe up to 3 quarters, and you got a more accurate barometer as to how your team would fare against other teams starters. The 4th and final preseason game evolved into keeping starters out and letting the bubble guys play the most to give them a chance to either make the roster or put more stuff on tape for other teams to see. But with the reduction of the preseason to three games, and with two weeks between the last preseason game and the start of the regular season, it's a little tougher to get a feel for things. Some teams played their starters this week (e.g. Buffalo), while others like Dallas sat their starters. That said, even though it was just preseason, it was good to see what the offense might look like when Trevor Lawrence gets protection. For now, there is a little more hope.
3. CJ Henderson has been the subject of a lot of negative speculation this offseason and preseason, but his pursuit and run support hit of that receiver on the reverse seems like good indicia to me his head is in it. Cover corners often are not keen on run support or tackling. For him to willingly do so in the last preseason game against a guy who may not be in the league by Tuesday speaks well for him. I hope I am right about that, because this team needs him at his best. I think on the whole, the CBs were good in run support, as Sidney Jones and Chris Claybrooks both had good run support plays.
4. Given he was acquired during the summer and hasn't been the subject of much discussion, people tend to forget he was an All Pro and Pro bowl player for the Rams not too long ago. I thought Pharoah Cooper had a really good game. He had three nice punt returns and a TD catch. I don't know if that will be enough to secure him a spot on the final roster, but I'd certainly rate him above Phillip Dorsett and a few others.
5. Under the category of mixed feelings, I felt bad for Taven Bryan when he jumped offsides. You could tell from his reaction that he hated making that mistake and he wanted to make a big play. Fortunately for him, that penalty did not extend the drive even though his blunder made the 3rd down easier to convert. However, I am among many who have been disappointed with his tenure here, and thinks the team should and will move on from him.
6. I thought the special teams was good today. Aside from the nice punt returns, Cook had a good punt that pinned Dallas inside their 5, and Lambo made his FGs. Kick coverage was good, and there were no penalties for illegal blocks on returns.
7. Rookie Watch:
A. Trevor Lawrence-Imagine being a kid anticipating getting the toy you desperately want for Christmas. Christmas day finally arrives only for you to discover, to your horror, that your toy was missing essentially pieces, without which made it impossible for it to work properly, and you had to return it. After a few days, you finally manage to get a replacement with all of the parts, and it works beautifully. That was the analogy I drew watching Trevor Lawrence function with adequate protection. Given protection, he showed everything the scouts said he had...everything we'd seen of him at Clemson...everything reflected in the camp reports. He stood tall in the pocket, showed excellent accuracy on short, intermediate and deep passes, good arm strength and touch. He was also good on the run, showing good mobility on bootlegs. He even functioned well with decision making and accuracy in the red zone. Let this be a lesson to Baalke and Meyer. Make it a priority to get this man protection, and everyone but our opponents will be happy.
B. Travis Etienne-DNP-is on IR
C. Tyson Campbell-Did not notice him at all.
D. Walker Little-played extensively out of necessity due to Cam Robinson being out. Thought he played pretty well, allowing far fewer pressures this week than he did against the Saints. In run blocking, displayed the ability to reach the second level. Under normal circumstances, I would not want him in the game as late as he played, but he needs the reps.
E. Anthony Cisco-Had a good pass breakup right before the two minute warning. Otherwise did not notice him. Surprised he was playing this late in the game, because I have to think his spot is secure because he has impressed most of the preseason.
F. Jay Tufele-showed nice penetration on a play earl in the second half. He has shown flashes of ability in each of the three games. Typically, the bubble tends to form around guys taken in the 4th round where he was taken. I think he makes the team.
G. Jordan Smith-I saw him in on a tackle early in the game, and he also had a decent pressure. Late in the game he had an offsides penalty that negated a strip sack. At minimum he makes the practice squad.
H. Luke farrell-I saw him go in motion on a play, but I did not see him make any catches nor did I watch him closely in the running game.
I. Jalen Camp-Did not see him.
8. While these guys are not rookies, I think Laquon Treadwell, Jeff Cotton, Pharoah Cooper, and Cottrell (less so because of the fumble and the presence of Carlos Hyde) and Ozigbo have all made good impressions and are viable candidates for the final roster. Conversely, I'm not sure Collin Johnson fares well when the bubble bursts. I don't see Phillip Dorsett making it. Just as I was concluding Wallace Simms was having a decent game, he gave up a pressure and had a holding penalty on back to back plays. But I'm thinking a lack of quality OL depth keeps him around, unless someone unexpectedly gets cut from another roster.
9. Nice to see something out of Shaughnessy and Manhertz, but I'm still hoping a good pass catching TE is cut and we pick him up.
10. Gardner Minshew did not have as good of a year last year as he did his rookie year, but I think he has plenty to offer an NFL team as a backup. That said, I am okay with beathard as a backup QB, even though he threw the INT. Luton is a decent 3rd QB option, whether he is on the practice squad or, more likely, the practice squad.
11. It'll be interesting to see how the national media reacts to Trevor Lawrence's game today. My guess? They minimize his performance.
12. Bottom line: We'll feel better after today than we did either of the final two games. After all, it IS our first win of any kind since we beat the Colts opening day last year. But there are some issues with this team...which is to be expected one year removed from a 1-15 season. I do not want to jinx us, but it appears we managed to avoid any major injuries in this game. Assuming this to be true, despite our problems, I think we have a chance to beat Houston if we play well. But we gotta get our O line healthy.
2. Yes. Even though Dallas sat their starters, it was very nice to see what Lawrence can do when he actually has time to throw. It was amazing to watch. This is the kind of performance we normally see from the opposing team's QB. It doesn't seem real that he actually plays for us. Yes, he had time to throw, but lets keep in mind that the Cowboys have a terrible pass rush and they were also Dallas' backups. This O-Line has a long way to go before I'm comfortable with this offense. We must protect Trevor at all cost.
4. Pharoah Cooper really impressed me. I like this kid and like you, I believe when you watch him play, he is much better than Dorsett. To me, this is a no-brainer. The problem is that all Meyer seems to care about is speed. Cooper ran a 4.65/40 at his pro day and Dorsett is known for his speed, so Cooper probably doesn't stick even though he has much better hands and route running ability imo.
7a. Lawrence is the priority. We know what he can do, he showed it today. He can take this team to the next level and beyond, but he's gonna need protection, no excuses. I'm hoping a decent OT gets cut by Tuesday and we can get some relief, but that's not likely. I'm really praying we go all in for a free agent OT like Terron Armstead. Having him and a hopefully, much improved Walker Little in 2022, would greatly help out Trevor Lawrence. I just don't like this next draft class of OT's at all.
7b. DNP
7c. DNP
7d. Little played much better than last week, but he played lesser competition as well. In any case, I just wanna see progression from him. He must step up, because we need him in the starting lineup asap.
7e. He's secure. I really like what I've seen from him so far. I believe he should be pushing for a starting spot, no later than week 5, hopefully sooner.
7f. He's definitely flashed. I'm pretty sure he makes the team as well. He should give us solid depth along the D-Line.
7g. I didn't notice him at all. I think he makes the team, because we are so thin at OLB. It's very concerning that our first team defense is getting little to no penetration so far, even on blitzes. I know Allen hasn't played, but he should not be expected to be a "one man show." I'm starting to get really worried that we will be a team who is known for stopping the run, but we will also be known for having no pass rush. I guess we will find out very soon.
7h. I believe he might be a candidate for the PS. Something tells me we are gonna add a TE after final cuts. I'm really looking heavily at the Dolphins. They are loaded at TE and unless they keep a ton of them, someone pretty decent is gonna get cut. We could use an athletic, pass catching TE.
7i. I didn't notice him at all. Probably won't make the final cut.
8. I like Treadwell and Cooper much more than I like Dorsett, but with Meyer's emphasis on speed and nothing else, I believe Dorsett gets the final WR position. Cotton is hit and miss for me. He'll make a highlight catch and then turn around and drop an easy pass. He'd be an interesting candidate for the PS. I think he has potential. He just needs to work on his hands. I believe Ozigbo gets the 3rd RB spot, but don't rule out us bringing in a new guy after the final cuts. If Meyer sees a speed back on the waiver wire that he thinks can fill the role Etienne was supposed to fill, I can see this happening.
9. Agreed. I believe we will be adding another TE. We have to. We just lack too much talent at the position.
10. Do I like our backup situation? Not particularly, but they are backups for a reason. Not every team can have a borderline starter as their backup QB like Trubisky is in Buffalo. Hopefully, Beathard and Luton never see the field for us and Lawrence has a great year. I'm just happy we got something for Minshew. He was not progressing at all, but he was a fun character and he made it easy to root for him. I wish him well.
11. I don't know, I see quite a bit of hype by the national media. It's nice for a change. I'm not used to this feeling. They usually dump all over us.
12. Agreed, although I don't know if a healthy O-Line will make much difference. We just lack talent and that likely won't change, at least this year. As long as Trevor stays healthy, that's all I ask.
(08-29-2021, 08:17 PM)icey14 Wrote: [ -> ]What i liked about this game was not just because of preseason. But it was a win on all 3 phases. Offense, defense and special teams.Very succinctly put.
Overall great game by all. And congratulations Trevor and Urban for first NFL win.
(08-29-2021, 08:59 PM)chris hill Wrote: [ -> ]
What i witnessed is we had and dallas had 3 olinemen out thats starting linemen.. we were without etienne they were without elliot we had lawrence they didnt have prescott.. other than our defense was there they 6 starters hurt or out today.. especially at dallas's home i would say we just dominated more than it was beacuse of injuries or other thngs im just saying cant say njuries or guys hurt cuz t was the same both was as far as guys hurt or guys out we just opened up a can of kick there but thats all..
(08-29-2021, 09:06 PM)Jags32250 Wrote: [ -> ]What concerns me most is our non-existent pass rush!
(08-29-2021, 07:30 PM)Mowerguy Wrote: [ -> ]Best thing about today is the confidence a team gains from winning!
after the beat downs by seasoned NFL teams...we put a sound whooping on jerruh's team.
(08-29-2021, 09:40 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ](08-29-2021, 07:45 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]2. Yes. Even though Dallas sat their starters, it was very nice to see what Lawrence can do when he actually has time to throw. It was amazing to watch. This is the kind of performance we normally see from the opposing team's QB. It doesn't seem real that he actually plays for us. Yes, he had time to throw, but lets keep in mind that the Cowboys have a terrible pass rush and they were also Dallas' backups. This O-Line has a long way to go before I'm comfortable with this offense. We must protect Trevor at all cost.
4. Pharoah Cooper really impressed me. I like this kid and like you, I believe when you watch him play, he is much better than Dorsett. To me, this is a no-brainer. The problem is that all Meyer seems to care about is speed. Cooper ran a 4.65/40 at his pro day and Dorsett is known for his speed, so Cooper probably doesn't stick even though he has much better hands and route running ability imo.
7a. Lawrence is the priority. We know what he can do, he showed it today. He can take this team to the next level and beyond, but he's gonna need protection, no excuses. I'm hoping a decent OT gets cut by Tuesday and we can get some relief, but that's not likely. I'm really praying we go all in for a free agent OT like Terron Armstead. Having him and a hopefully, much improved Walker Little in 2022, would greatly help out Trevor Lawrence. I just don't like this next draft class of OT's at all.
7b. DNP
7c. DNP
7d. Little played much better than last week, but he played lesser competition as well. In any case, I just wanna see progression from him. He must step up, because we need him in the starting lineup asap.
7e. He's secure. I really like what I've seen from him so far. I believe he should be pushing for a starting spot, no later than week 5, hopefully sooner.
7f. He's definitely flashed. I'm pretty sure he makes the team as well. He should give us solid depth along the D-Line.
7g. I didn't notice him at all. I think he makes the team, because we are so thin at OLB. It's very concerning that our first team defense is getting little to no penetration so far, even on blitzes. I know Allen hasn't played, but he should not be expected to be a "one man show." I'm starting to get really worried that we will be a team who is known for stopping the run, but we will also be known for having no pass rush. I guess we will find out very soon.
7h. I believe he might be a candidate for the PS. Something tells me we are gonna add a TE after final cuts. I'm really looking heavily at the Dolphins. They are loaded at TE and unless they keep a ton of them, someone pretty decent is gonna get cut. We could use an athletic, pass catching TE.
7i. I didn't notice him at all. Probably won't make the final cut.
8. I like Treadwell and Cooper much more than I like Dorsett, but with Meyer's emphasis on speed and nothing else, I believe Dorsett gets the final WR position. Cotton is hit and miss for me. He'll make a highlight catch and then turn around and drop an easy pass. He'd be an interesting candidate for the PS. I think he has potential. He just needs to work on his hands. I believe Ozigbo gets the 3rd RB spot, but don't rule out us bringing in a new guy after the final cuts. If Meyer sees a speed back on the waiver wire that he thinks can fill the role Etienne was supposed to fill, I can see this happening.
9. Agreed. I believe we will be adding another TE. We have to. We just lack too much talent at the position.
10. Do I like our backup situation? Not particularly, but they are backups for a reason. Not every team can have a borderline starter as their backup QB like Trubisky is in Buffalo. Hopefully, Beathard and Luton never see the field for us and Lawrence has a great year. I'm just happy we got something for Minshew. He was not progressing at all, but he was a fun character and he made it easy to root for him. I wish him well.
11. I don't know, I see quite a bit of hype by the national media. It's nice for a change. I'm not used to this feeling. They usually dump all over us.
12. Agreed, although I don't know if a healthy O-Line will make much difference. We just lack talent and that likely won't change, at least this year. As long as Trevor stays healthy, that's all I ask.
2. Agreed that this is hardly a convincing sign of improvement from the OL, but at this point, I will take whatever improvement we can get.
4. I remember an earlier UM quote talking about how fast players get from point A to point B...but not necessarily talking about stopwatch speed. If he was being truthful there, Cooper gets the spot over Dorsett. Despite being here a limited amount of time, he has been far more productive, versatile and consistent than Dorsett, though I give kudos to Dorsett for a nice catch on the bomb down the right sideline.
7a. I am not holding out any hope that Terron Armstead will end up here. If a 30 something Trent Williams commanded what he did, what will a 31 year old next july Armstead command...even if he's allowed to hit the open market? The only way I see that happening is with a complete and catastrophic collapse by the Saints as a whole, and I think their roster as currently constructed is way too talented for that.
7d. I think all the reps he got today had to help his development some. TBH, I think I could see him as a starting RT as soon as weeks 3-4. I see Taylor being absolutely no match for Von Miller (even coming off injury) or Chandler Jones in weeks 2-3. After a disastrous start or two, I could see Meyer wanting him in the lineup over Taylor.
7g. (J. Smith) What makes me uncertain about Smith making the roster is uncertainty about where they will play Ward. Ward is listed as a DL, but every time I've seen him, he has been in a 2 point stance. If he is playing OLB/edge rusher, we'd have four: Allen, Chaisson, Smoot and Ward. I'm not sure the team will need 5 edge rushers. If not, then it would become a matter of whether the team would think they could keep him on the practice squad without him being poached from another team.
8. My thing is I have seen treadwell and Cooper contribute on offense as well as special teams. I haven't seen Dorsett contribute much offensively or special teams. As far as Cotton goes, aside from that one drop last week, he's been very good. He has gotten open-vertical and underneath- and caught the ball well.
(08-29-2021, 08:17 PM)icey14 Wrote: [ -> ]What i liked about this game was not just because of preseason. But it was a win on all 3 phases. Offense, defense and special teams.Very succinctly put.
Overall great game by all. And congratulations Trevor and Urban for first NFL win.
We DID win in all three phases of the game.
(08-29-2021, 08:59 PM)chris hill Wrote: [ -> ]
What i witnessed is we had and dallas had 3 olinemen out thats starting linemen.. we were without etienne they were without elliot we had lawrence they didnt have prescott.. other than our defense was there they 6 starters hurt or out today.. especially at dallas's home i would say we just dominated more than it was beacuse of injuries or other thngs im just saying cant say njuries or guys hurt cuz t was the same both was as far as guys hurt or guys out we just opened up a can of kick there but thats all..
Dallas also helth their top 3 WRs out. This three week preseason will take some adjustment. Harder to get a read on things now.
(08-29-2021, 07:36 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for this, I was having to prep the house to host my sisters bridal shower so I didn't get to watch the game as closely as I would normally. I was glad to see more spread sets. I still wish we were using a lot more motion, but maybe hopefully that's another facet they're slow rolling. It sounds like Ozigbo continued to be our best backup RB too. I know they won't but I'd be quite happy if they just ended this Hyde experiment and let Ozigbo be second string.
I would only caution the team not to let this get to their heads too much. The Browns starters are very good, so logically their backups are probably higher caliber than most backups too. The Cowboys starting defense is very bad, so by the same logic...that backup defense was horrendous.
(08-29-2021, 09:51 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ](08-29-2021, 07:36 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for this, I was having to prep the house to host my sisters bridal shower so I didn't get to watch the game as closely as I would normally. I was glad to see more spread sets. I still wish we were using a lot more motion, but maybe hopefully that's another facet they're slow rolling. It sounds like Ozigbo continued to be our best backup RB too. I know they won't but I'd be quite happy if they just ended this Hyde experiment and let Ozigbo be second string.
I would only caution the team not to let this get to their heads too much. The Browns starters are very good, so logically their backups are probably higher caliber than most backups too. The Cowboys starting defense is very bad, so by the same logic...that backup defense was horrendous.
Zero need to thank me for this.
You might enjoy this clip...
https://twitter.com/CJ8K_/status/1432158...06759?s=20
(08-30-2021, 10:47 AM)DTWD4∞ Wrote: [ -> ](08-29-2021, 09:51 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Zero need to thank me for this.
You might enjoy this clip...
https://twitter.com/CJ8K_/status/1432158...06759?s=20
Although new member here, I have read on this forum for years and have always appreciated your impressions and insights post game. As to Dorsett, he did not get separation on that play until he pushed off, and got away with it. That said it was still a very good catch but overall, Cooper has looked much better in my opinion. Treadwell too until recently. And while Cotton, Camp and Hammond have looked good, I fear they just aren't quite "there" yet for a final roster spot. Practice squad definitely if they will resign and nobody pilfers them. Same for Colin Johnson. JMO
(08-29-2021, 04:11 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]5. Under the category of mixed feelings, I felt bad for Taven Bryan when he jumped offsides. You could tell from his reaction that he hated making that mistake and he wanted to make a big play. Fortunately for him, that penalty did not extend the drive even though his blunder made the 3rd down easier to convert. However, I am among many who have been disappointed with his tenure here, and thinks the team should and will move on from him.
(08-30-2021, 11:34 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ](08-30-2021, 10:47 AM)DTWD4∞ Wrote: [ -> ]Although new member here, I have read on this forum for years and have always appreciated your impressions and insights post game. As to Dorsett, he did not get separation on that play until he pushed off, and got away with it. That said it was still a very good catch but overall, Cooper has looked much better in my opinion. Treadwell too until recently. And while Cotton, Camp and Hammond have looked good, I fear they just aren't quite "there" yet for a final roster spot. Practice squad definitely if they will resign and nobody pilfers them. Same for Colin Johnson. JMO
Thank you very much.
If I may ask, why lurk and not post? If your post here is any indicia, I think you would add good perspective here.
I'm glad you mentioned Hammond. I don't think he makes the roster, but I want to give him credit for a play he made. It was a relatively short pass, but he came back to the ball and not only stopped a potential INT or PBU, but it earned him the completion.
Of those three WRs you mentioned below, I have been more impressed by Cotton. I would want him on the practice squad before those other guys.
I think Collin Johnson is a guy that won't last on a practice squad. I think if placed there, he would get snatched off and be a productive player elsewhere and fans would look at him and wonder why we cut him.
(08-30-2021, 01:16 PM)DTWD4∞ Wrote: [ -> ]My man. I have seen long winded posts and this is far from it.(08-30-2021, 11:34 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Thank you very much.
If I may ask, why lurk and not post? If your post here is any indicia, I think you would add good perspective here.
I'm glad you mentioned Hammond. I don't think he makes the roster, but I want to give him credit for a play he made. It was a relatively short pass, but he came back to the ball and not only stopped a potential INT or PBU, but it earned him the completion.
Of those three WRs you mentioned below, I have been more impressed by Cotton. I would want him on the practice squad before those other guys.
I think Collin Johnson is a guy that won't last on a practice squad. I think if placed there, he would get snatched off and be a productive player elsewhere and fans would look at him and wonder why we cut him.
Thanks for the kind words. While I have been an avid Jaguars fan from inception, I resisted joining the forum for years. I was content to read the posts and laugh at some of them for sure. Actually joining in on the fun just didn't trigger for a long, long time. But with Trevor here and the prospect of what he may do for this team and city, when someone asked how to listen to the radio broadcast via phone while at the games appealed to the inner fan and I joined. Long have I sat watching the game on TV while listening via computer to the stream and also reading the gameday thread. Told that poster to use his browser and pull up a different station than 1010XL in the Jags network, 95.7 The Hog for me. Having taken the plunge it is enjoyable posting here now.
P.S. Just let me know when I get too long winded as my wife is Always on me about that. LOL
(08-30-2021, 01:21 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ](08-30-2021, 01:16 PM)DTWD4∞ Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the kind words. While I have been an avid Jaguars fan from inception, I resisted joining the forum for years. I was content to read the posts and laugh at some of them for sure. Actually joining in on the fun just didn't trigger for a long, long time. But with Trevor here and the prospect of what he may do for this team and city, when someone asked how to listen to the radio broadcast via phone while at the games appealed to the inner fan and I joined. Long have I sat watching the game on TV while listening via computer to the stream and also reading the gameday thread. Told that poster to use his browser and pull up a different station than 1010XL in the Jags network, 95.7 The Hog for me. Having taken the plunge it is enjoyable posting here now.My man. I have seen long winded posts and this is far from it.
P.S. Just let me know when I get too long winded as my wife is Always on me about that. LOL
Welcome.
(08-30-2021, 01:21 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ](08-30-2021, 01:16 PM)DTWD4∞ Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the kind words. While I have been an avid Jaguars fan from inception, I resisted joining the forum for years. I was content to read the posts and laugh at some of them for sure. Actually joining in on the fun just didn't trigger for a long, long time. But with Trevor here and the prospect of what he may do for this team and city, when someone asked how to listen to the radio broadcast via phone while at the games appealed to the inner fan and I joined. Long have I sat watching the game on TV while listening via computer to the stream and also reading the gameday thread. Told that poster to use his browser and pull up a different station than 1010XL in the Jags network, 95.7 The Hog for me. Having taken the plunge it is enjoyable posting here now.My man. I have seen long winded posts and this is far from it.
P.S. Just let me know when I get too long winded as my wife is Always on me about that. LOL
Welcome.