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The Convoy is hardly BLM. One is Nancy Kerrigan while the other is Tonya Harding.

Now little Castro is implementing the War Act (changed name to Emergency Act). This is going to become a local vs federal problem just like in the US. The provinces (states) are coming out against it, so we will see what happens. The truckers aren't leaving and it doesn't look like their support is going down.

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(02-14-2022, 09:35 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]The Convoy is hardly BLM.  One is Nancy Kerrigan while the other is Tonya Harding.

Well, I'm just asking, should people be allowed to do this?  I see a lot of sympathy expressed on this forum toward the truckers who shut down the border, so I am asking, should people in a democratic society be allowed to force things out of the government with such tactics?  Or is it only people you agree with that should be allowed to do such things?  

I have principles.  I believe that in a free society such as Canada (or the US) people who break the law should pay the consequences.  We make changes with elections.  Not by doing things like blockading the border.

They took it too far. Showing up in force for a couple of days would have sent an effective message. Instead, they took a page of out of the idiot leftist occupy book and ended up undermining their own efforts.

Most of you would have us still part of the crown. The government is overreaching and the people realize that there is no going back. Either they end this now and remove the powers used so they can't do it again or they don't get anything.

If they leave, what do you think happens? The government may play along in the short term if they are lucky. Most likely all the truckers are quietly rounded up and held indefinitely. They are now freezing assets without a warrant and just mere suspicion.

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(02-14-2022, 05:53 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2022, 02:05 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Do you think anyone should be allowed to shut down the border until their demands are met?

What if BLM shut down the border until we met their demand that we defund the police?  Would that be okay with you?

Which border?

I'm all for open borders based on certain conditions but must admit, THAT WAS HILARIOUS !!!!

(02-15-2022, 09:28 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Most of you would have us still part of the crown. The government is overreaching and the people realize that there is no going back. Either they end this now and remove the powers used so they can't do it again or they don't get anything.

If they leave, what do you think happens? The government may play along in the short term if they are lucky. Most likely all the truckers are quietly rounded up and held indefinitely. They are now freezing assets without a warrant and just mere suspicion.

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So are you or are you not in favor of people, who live in a free society with elected representatives, breaking the law, harming other people, to get what they want if they don't like what the government is doing?  

Keep in mind, whatever standard you set applies to everyone, not just the ones you agree with.

(02-15-2022, 05:51 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-14-2022, 09:35 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]The Convoy is hardly BLM.  One is Nancy Kerrigan while the other is Tonya Harding.

Well, I'm just asking, should people be allowed to do this?  I see a lot of sympathy expressed on this forum toward the truckers who shut down the border, so I am asking, should people in a democratic society be allowed to force things out of the government with such tactics?  Or is it only people you agree with that should be allowed to do such things?  

I have principles.  I believe that in a free society such as Canada (or the US) people who break the law should pay the consequences.  We make changes with elections.  Not by doing things like blockading the border.

If people are willing to pay for their crime that's on them, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have a voice. The problem is, no one is listening through "normal channels" so the people are doing what they feel they need to do. I definitely believe in the election process to affect change but people can't always wait for election day. They need to be heard now. 

The problem I have with comparing BLM and the Convoy is, though they both have legitimate complaints, they are completely different groups of people. It's not even the same conversation.

(02-15-2022, 10:15 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-15-2022, 09:28 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Most of you would have us still part of the crown. The government is overreaching and the people realize that there is no going back. Either they end this now and remove the powers used so they can't do it again or they don't get anything.

If they leave, what do you think happens? The government may play along in the short term if they are lucky. Most likely all the truckers are quietly rounded up and held indefinitely. They are now freezing assets without a warrant and just mere suspicion.

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So are you or are you not in favor of people, who live in a free society with elected representatives, breaking the law, harming other people, to get what they want if they don't like what the government is doing?  

Keep in mind, whatever standard you set applies to everyone, not just the ones you agree with.

I understand your argument, but turn it around and view it from another perspective.  Are you or are you not in favor of people who live in a free society to rise up when the elected representatives are breaking the law, harming people to get what they want if they don't like what the people desire?

What the Prime Minister in Canada is doing is very similar to what a communist dictatorship would do.

(02-15-2022, 10:15 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-15-2022, 09:28 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Most of you would have us still part of the crown. The government is overreaching and the people realize that there is no going back. Either they end this now and remove the powers used so they can't do it again or they don't get anything.

If they leave, what do you think happens? The government may play along in the short term if they are lucky. Most likely all the truckers are quietly rounded up and held indefinitely. They are now freezing assets without a warrant and just mere suspicion.

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So are you or are you not in favor of people, who live in a free society with elected representatives, breaking the law, harming other people, to get what they want if they don't like what the government is doing?  

Keep in mind, whatever standard you set applies to everyone, not just the ones you agree with.

They are not breaking the law. They are following the law and frankly they are being too nice about it. They are going out of their way to cause as little harm to the people of Canda as possible. They could have easily blocked all bridges and roads into the city. They have enough trucks to truly blockade the city.

When the representatives are breaking the law, inventing powers they don't have, and the courts are involved in the power grab, you are left with little else. If it continues, the last option is to shut stuff deliveries down and that will hurt the people. I believe they will try everything to stop that from happening but little Castro doesn't appear that he can give in.

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‘Hold The Line’: Canadian Police Arrest Leaders Of Freedom Convoy, Several Others Amid Crackdown

Canadian authorities have reportedly begun arresting members and organizers of the Freedom Convoy in Ottawa after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau invoked the Emergencies Act.

https://conservativepost.com/hold-the-li...dDHXBEJAP0

(02-18-2022, 07:27 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]‘Hold The Line’: Canadian Police Arrest Leaders Of Freedom Convoy, Several Others Amid Crackdown

Canadian authorities have reportedly begun arresting members and organizers of the Freedom Convoy in Ottawa after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau invoked the Emergencies Act.

https://conservativepost.com/hold-the-li...dDHXBEJAP0

It's really bad right now. They dragged people out of vehicles today, have frozen accounts just for donating, are going to kill pets, etc. Then they are required to vote to approve the war (emergency) act within 5 days. Today is day 5 and a hearing and vote was scheduled, so they canceled it. They didn't use the remote procedures they have been using for some reason.

I won't be shocked if the people arrested don't get bail.

Meanwhile in West Canada, Antifa or similar group attacked a pipeline and did millions in damage and nothing done about it.

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They trampled an old woman with horses today. People are saying she died at the hospital but not confirmed yet. Hopefully little Castro is removed by Monday.

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Yeah I saw where they are possibly going to take protesters pets and euthanize them. I hope that is not true. That's just pure evil.

(02-18-2022, 09:38 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]They trampled an old woman with horses today. People are saying she died at the hospital but not confirmed yet. Hopefully little Castro is removed by Monday.

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Sounds like she is mostly OK. Looks like the police really screwed up now though. She is 100% Mohawk. The war act doesn't apply to natives and they are able to still protest. She should be able to own the city now.

(02-18-2022, 11:53 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]

Tow truck companies have removed all tags and decals and have police tags now. Drivers are wearing masks. This is turning into a complete police state, communist country.


There's a conspiracy that he is Castro's son. The little Castro joke works on multiple levels. Look at some of the side by side pictures and you have to wonder.

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This will massively backfire on Trudeau. The House of Commons may be tossing him soon.

Canadian Authorities Announce Media Could Be Arrested During Trucker Roundup, Issue Warning to Reporters

In one of the more shocking developments in the Canadian government’s crackdown on the Freedom Convoy, a group of anti-coronavirus mandate protesters, Ottawa police announced Friday that members of the media could be subject to arrest.

https://ijr.com/canadian-authorities-med...manualpost

Trudy has lost all sense of reality. Dang. 

Gotta feel for the Olympic athletes who live in that province and are coming back home to a very different landscape from when they left. 

Kind of like the astronauts who left the planet just as Covid was taking off and came back after the George Floyd incident and everything that entailed. 2020 just plain sucked. 2022 isn't looking much better for the citizens of Ottawa.

I don't trust the police not to lie.' Grandmother, 62, arrested and 'manhandled' in her pajamas after letting Freedom Convoy truckers park at her border home insists seized arms cache was planted by cops

Joanne Person, 62, was among the 11 people arrested Monday in Coutts, Alberta, near the Montana border, where police seized a huge cache of weapons
Speaking to DailyMail.com after a two-day stint in jail, Person recounted how cops ransacked two RVs on her property, slammed her onto a car and cuffed her
The grandmother said she 'was fully in my jammies and in bed' when Canadian Mounties stormed her single-story home just after midnight on Valentine's Day
The RCMP confirmed they made 11 arrests at the home where they found a large cache of weapons including 13 long guns, handguns, body armor and a machete
Person, who had been hosting Freedom Convoy protesters - including two trailers - at her property, was charged with mischief and possession of a weapon
But she claims she has no idea where the firearms came from, noting she only has a .22 caliber rifle used to 'shoot gophers' that police found in her closet
'I don't trust the police not to lie,' she said. 'They tried to tell me I've got 16 guns in my home. I don't think for one minute they found those guns here'
RCMP described the group as a heavily armed criminal organization and said it was preparing to use force against police if they tried to disrupt the blockade

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...Ly0R-GTyIg