Saw this on Reddit but thought it was interesting;
Liberals what is your most right wing belief or policy you support and Conservatives what is your most left wing belief or policy your support.
I’ll start
I’m right wing and strongly anti abortion so I accept and believe state funded birth control would help eliminate the need for many abortions. I’m also ok with state offered medical coverage for all children I just don’t believe we should have any child going without healthcare it’s a solvable problem.
I'm very much Pro-Gay marraige and I'm considered a right winger. Love is love and people are people. Everyone has the right to be happy. I mean, isn't it enshrined in our Declaration of Indepenence these very words: " We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" That should include everyone, not just straifght heterosexual people.
It's hard, because as I've gotten older, I am really a classic liberal. I believe in powers of the federal government with an emphasis on personal freedoms and responsibilities.
Left wing:
I think capitalism is broken in America, and we need to have a long, hard look at who's benefitting from the brokenness.
Right wing:
Abortion? Gun rights? I don't know.... it's much harder for me to identify an extreme right-wing position, which is probably an indicator that I lean more right.
I consider myself moderate right, but I agree with certain paths to citizenship that many conservatives would disagree with.
(02-03-2022, 12:19 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]It's hard, because as I've gotten older, I am really a classic liberal. I believe in powers of the federal government with an emphasis on personal freedoms and responsibilities.
Left wing:
I think capitalism is broken in America, and we need to have a long, hard look at who's benefitting from the brokenness.
Right wing:
Abortion? Gun rights? I don't know.... it's much harder for me to identify an extreme right-wing position, which is probably an indicator that I lean more right.
Like you I'm a classic liberal but vote Libertarian because it's closest to that view.
But I'm for strong borders, Federalism with strong States, initiating war when appropriate, and against abortion.
(02-02-2022, 11:54 PM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]I'm very much Pro-Gay marraige and I'm considered a right winger. Love is love and people are people. Everyone has the right to be happy. I mean, isn't it enshrined in our Declaration of Indepenence these very words: " We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" That should include everyone, not just straifght heterosexual people.
I don't believe the government should have any say in marriage. All of those relationships should be civil unions open to anyone or any number of people. Those who want marriage can also get one, but that should not be a government sanctioned or regulated event.
I am neither left nor right wing. I vote. I am a registered independent. I think the two party paradigm is why this country is always routinely in the same cyclical issues over and over again.
I truly believe the table is rigged. It's tilted. With that said. I agree with the right's beliefs of strong family values, religion and gun rights.
I also agree with the left's beliefs of strong individuality, a woman's choice with her body and equality for all.
After that? This is where I begin to stand my ground. I don't mind your views. Just don't force them on me or my family and we're square. Don't force it into public schools. Force that into the private sector and start your own school of thought.
I don't like it when I can see a clear attempt being made to confuse children, blur the lines of gender with gender bending theories and forced homosexuality in a gawdy way onto children. It's wrong.
This is where I think the left loses me. They tend to push it more. They tend to infringe more with fringe extremisim.
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(02-02-2022, 11:50 PM)EricC85 Wrote: [ -> ]Saw this on Reddit but thought it was interesting;
Liberals what is your most right wing belief or policy you support and Conservatives what is your most left wing belief or policy your support.
I’ll start
I’m right wing and strongly anti abortion so I accept and believe state funded birth control would help eliminate the need for many abortions. I’m also ok with state offered medical coverage for all children I just don’t believe we should have any child going without healthcare it’s a solvable problem.
I agree 100%.
(02-03-2022, 02:47 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]I consider myself moderate right, but I agree with certain paths to citizenship that many conservatives would disagree with.
Yeah I don't think citizenship should be on the table for someone who came here illegally.
I am OK with making it easier to come over legally and work openly because I think that would increase revenues for the government and make the labor market more fair for everyone. I'm OK with granting a legal status to some people who came illegally, if they pay a small fine first. But that can only be done if we tighten things up at the points of entry and deport some folks first.
The idea that one can be behind a group that is anti gay is crazy.
Oh, they hate gays , but at least the economy is going great. I'm with them.
What are you talking about?
(02-03-2022, 02:11 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]What are you talking about?
Apparently all conservatives hate gays. Which is really going to crush my conservative gay dad…lol
(02-03-2022, 12:53 PM)Norman Mushari Wrote: [ -> ]The idea that one can be behind a group that is anti gay is crazy.
Oh, they hate gays , but at least the economy is going great. I'm with them.
That line of thinking is dangerous. You cannot paint an entire group of people with a wide brush. That's why people get so damn mad across both sides of the aisle. I see it all the time within my own circles.
"Oh, you're a conservative that has guns and voted for Trump, twice? You're stupid, you're racist, you're homophobic, you're a [bleep]".
"Oh, you voted for Biden and dye your hair blue and pink and you're also gay? You must be one of those Muslim sympathizers and want free radicals to cross our borders so you can marry them off to one of my children".
LOL. My God, people are insanely dangerous with their beliefs in this Country.
God Forbid you're gay, you're conservative, you voted for Trump or Biden, didn't like half of the things they did, go to Church on Sunday's, dye your hair from time to time, believe in national security and better border security with a strong vetting process and sympathize with a wide variety of groups of people regardless of color or creed...and...and... just so happen to drive a 1992 Ford Lariat in mint condition with a rifle hanging on the back of it.
I [BLEEP] you not. I have friends in all of these categories. And we all primarily agree on enough things to not stab each other in the throat at the dinner table.
(02-03-2022, 02:30 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-03-2022, 02:11 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]What are you talking about?
Apparently all conservatives hate gays. Which is really going to crush my conservative gay dad…lol
THe title of the thread is "what is your most radical idea in opposition to your party.". And then he said "I'm very pro gay marriage". Suggesting that his opinion is opposite of his parties. I didn't suggest it. He did.
That's what I'm talking about.
(02-03-2022, 02:54 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (02-03-2022, 12:53 PM)Norman Mushari Wrote: [ -> ]The idea that one can be behind a group that is anti gay is crazy.
Oh, they hate gays , but at least the economy is going great. I'm with them.
That line of thinking is dangerous. You cannot paint an entire group of people with a wide brush. That's why people get so damn mad across both sides of the aisle. I see it all the time within my own circles.
"Oh, you're a conservative that has guns and voted for Trump, twice? You're stupid, you're racist, you're homophobic, you're a [bleep]".
"Oh, you voted for Biden and dye your hair blue and pink and you're also gay? You must be one of those Muslim sympathizers and want free radicals to cross our borders so you can marry them off to one of my children".
LOL. My God, people are insanely dangerous with their beliefs in this Country.
God Forbid you're gay, you're conservative, you voted for Trump or Biden, didn't like half of the things they did, go to Church on Sunday's, dye your hair from time to time, believe in national security and better border security with a strong vetting process and sympathize with a wide variety of groups of people regardless of color or creed...and...and... just so happen to drive a 1992 Ford Lariat in mint condition with a rifle hanging on the back of it.
I [BLEEP] you not. I have friends in all of these categories. And we all primarily agree on enough things to not stab each other in the throat at the dinner table.
That's funny. Pretty much everyone who comments on my post "paint me as a liberal".
(02-03-2022, 03:59 PM)Norman Mushari Wrote: [ -> ] (02-03-2022, 02:30 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]Apparently all conservatives hate gays. Which is really going to crush my conservative gay dad…lol
THe title of the thread is "what is your most radical idea in opposition to your party.". And then he said "I'm very pro gay marriage". Suggesting that his opinion is opposite of his parties. I didn't suggest it. He did.
That's what I'm talking about.
(02-03-2022, 02:54 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]That line of thinking is dangerous. You cannot paint an entire group of people with a wide brush. That's why people get so damn mad across both sides of the aisle. I see it all the time within my own circles.
"Oh, you're a conservative that has guns and voted for Trump, twice? You're stupid, you're racist, you're homophobic, you're a [bleep]".
"Oh, you voted for Biden and dye your hair blue and pink and you're also gay? You must be one of those Muslim sympathizers and want free radicals to cross our borders so you can marry them off to one of my children".
LOL. My God, people are insanely dangerous with their beliefs in this Country.
God Forbid you're gay, you're conservative, you voted for Trump or Biden, didn't like half of the things they did, go to Church on Sunday's, dye your hair from time to time, believe in national security and better border security with a strong vetting process and sympathize with a wide variety of groups of people regardless of color or creed...and...and... just so happen to drive a 1992 Ford Lariat in mint condition with a rifle hanging on the back of it.
I [BLEEP] you not. I have friends in all of these categories. And we all primarily agree on enough things to not stab each other in the throat at the dinner table.
That's funny. Pretty much everyone who comments on my post "paint me as a liberal".
Well, not me says I. = P
I get painted as a liberal sometimes but it's in a classical since. Then someone will say my views also straddle around fiscal conservative. I honestly don't care. I try like hell to avoid labels or take sides.
Just try my best to vote with my conscious. Understanding that it's impossible to please everyone. It may not be the "popular" vote but at least I can say in good faith that I voted for the person I felt was the best candidate to appease the masses.
What are your thoughts on a strong third party? I only ask because I tend to feel compelled to rile up those who lean left or right in particular. I have a hard time trusting either side. Feels like a Plutocracy in this country more than an actual Democracy.
(02-03-2022, 04:12 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (02-03-2022, 03:59 PM)Norman Mushari Wrote: [ -> ]THe title of the thread is "what is your most radical idea in opposition to your party.". And then he said "I'm very pro gay marriage". Suggesting that his opinion is opposite of his parties. I didn't suggest it. He did.
That's what I'm talking about.
That's funny. Pretty much everyone who comments on my post "paint me as a liberal".
Well, not me says I. = P
What are your thoughts on a strong third party? I only ask because I tend to feel compelled to rile up those who lean left or right in particular. I have a hard time trusting either side. Feels like a Plutocracy in this country more than an actual Democracy.
I would never vote for a Democrat or a Republican.
It's an absolute waste of my time, but if you don't do it, people will just give you that terrible fake trope. "If you don't vote, can't complain".
So I %100 agree with a fourth, fifth party. The idea that these 2 people are even remotely the best option is silly.
Most of the opinions that say otherwise come from people who are trying to keep one of those 2 parties in power.
Especially these 2 people
(02-03-2022, 03:59 PM)Norman Mushari Wrote: [ -> ] (02-03-2022, 02:30 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]Apparently all conservatives hate gays. Which is really going to crush my conservative gay dad…lol
THe title of the thread is "what is your most radical idea in opposition to your party.". And then he said "I'm very pro gay marriage". Suggesting that his opinion is opposite of his parties. I didn't suggest it. He did.
That's what I'm talking about.
There’s a difference between being against gay marriage and hating gays.
I am pro-choice. The government should have no say in the matter, especially when it comes to rape, incest or medical issues for mom and/or baby. Period. End of story.
As a Conservative Republican who is very Pro Israel, I'm totally against Israel receiving/ accepting Government Foreign Aid. The so called Foreign Aid leads to expectations for very dangerous concessions ( even pretending real peace is possible is extremely dangerous, including for the U.S. ) and limits trade opportunities for Israel. The reality of the situation is Israel only wins wars when it doesn't receive significant amount of government Foreign Aid. Ideally, AIPAC would no longer exist and that the U.S. would eliminate all government Foreign Aid to the Middle East ( and in the vast majority of other places as well ).
I don't vote party lines since I'm an independent but people might think being pro-choice and pro-second amendment is somewhat contradictory. Neither should be completely unrestricted IMO. Also, I'm a fiscal conservative but lean left on a few social issues.
(02-04-2022, 01:45 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]I don't vote party lines since I'm an independent but people might think being pro-choice and pro-second amendment is somewhat contradictory. Neither should be completely unrestricted IMO. Also, I'm a fiscal conservative but lean left on a few social issues.
That’s me. I don’t care about abortion or gay marriage. What you do as a consenting adult is your business. You do you!
(02-04-2022, 01:55 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-04-2022, 01:45 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]I don't vote party lines since I'm an independent but people might think being pro-choice and pro-second amendment is somewhat contradictory. Neither should be completely unrestricted IMO. Also, I'm a fiscal conservative but lean left on a few social issues.
That’s me. I don’t care about abortion or gay marriage. What you do as a consenting adult is your business. You do you!
Exactly.