03-08-2022, 07:12 PM
03-08-2022, 07:43 PM
(03-08-2022, 06:51 PM)I am Yoda Wrote: [ -> ](03-08-2022, 06:46 PM)NH3 Wrote: [ -> ]I Disagree to Cam having to prove that he's an NFL starter at the position. He gave up just ONE sack in 2021. How much more does he have to prove? Coming off of an major injury in 2020, I feel that he's poised for betterment.
Time Will Tell.
NH3...
And for those pining for Neal at #1, he and Cam are not significantly different as prospects coming into the draft.
Say it isn't so!
NH3...
03-08-2022, 07:56 PM
(03-08-2022, 07:07 PM)NoShoes Wrote: [ -> ]I’m almost tempted Little at LT, Robinson RT, and give Taylor a shot at guard.
I'd show Taylor the door. He's useless. In fact, he's a major liability.
03-08-2022, 08:00 PM
(03-08-2022, 07:56 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ](03-08-2022, 07:07 PM)NoShoes Wrote: [ -> ]I’m almost tempted Little at LT, Robinson RT, and give Taylor a shot at guard.
I'd show Taylor the door. He's useless. In fact, he's a major liability.
You’d be silly to not at least let him compete. Cut him on the last round in august if he doesn’t shake
03-08-2022, 08:01 PM
(03-08-2022, 07:56 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ](03-08-2022, 07:07 PM)NoShoes Wrote: [ -> ]I’m almost tempted Little at LT, Robinson RT, and give Taylor a shot at guard.
I'd show Taylor the door. He's useless. In fact, he's a major liability.
You said the same thing about Cam last year and then wanted to tag him this year lol. Im curious to see if he can have a career year on a contract year like a lot of players do
(03-08-2022, 08:00 PM)NoShoes Wrote: [ -> ](03-08-2022, 07:56 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I'd show Taylor the door. He's useless. In fact, he's a major liability.
You’d be silly to not at least let him compete. Cut him on the last round in august if he doesn’t shake
Exactly, he is in a contract year. See how he can do
03-08-2022, 08:06 PM
(03-08-2022, 08:00 PM)NoShoes Wrote: [ -> ](03-08-2022, 07:56 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I'd show Taylor the door. He's useless. In fact, he's a major liability.
You’d be silly to not at least let him compete. Cut him on the last round in august if he doesn’t shake
I'll let him compete, but I'm making sure I find upgrades, so his chances to make the team are slim to none. He's too slow getting off the snap. He always has been.
(03-08-2022, 08:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ](03-08-2022, 07:56 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I'd show Taylor the door. He's useless. In fact, he's a major liability.
You said the same thing about Cam last year and then wanted to tag him this year lol. Im curious to see if he can have a career year on a contract year like a lot of players do
(03-08-2022, 08:00 PM)NoShoes Wrote: [ -> ]You’d be silly to not at least let him compete. Cut him on the last round in august if he doesn’t shake
Exactly, he is in a contract year. See how he can do
There was a major difference between the Cam Robinson situation last season and now. Last year's OT class was much stronger and deeper than it is this year. We had other options. This year we don't. Cam is the best of a bad situation and it's just for one year. He's a band-aid.
03-08-2022, 08:19 PM
(03-08-2022, 08:06 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]There was a major difference between the Cam Robinson situation last season and now. Last year's OT class was much stronger and deeper than it is this year. We had other options. This year we don't. Cam is the best of a bad situation and it's just for one year. He's a band-aid.
Another major difference is that a large part, if not majority, of Cam's improvement can be attributed to Trevor's already advanced pocket skills. Jawaan got the Trevor bump last year too, yet he stayed extremely subpar.
03-08-2022, 08:23 PM
My major Concern.
Lets just say Little does not secure the LT spot and we ride with Cam. Cam has another decent year like this past season. We either have to give him a major contract or we are on the hunt for a LT. I don't believe a player is allowed to get Tagged 3 times.
Lets just say Little does not secure the LT spot and we ride with Cam. Cam has another decent year like this past season. We either have to give him a major contract or we are on the hunt for a LT. I don't believe a player is allowed to get Tagged 3 times.
03-08-2022, 08:30 PM
Cam is going to be the best paid right tackle in the league.
This is exactly right.
(03-08-2022, 07:12 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]In like 4 games Little showed more than Robinson has in 5 seasons. It probably wont be, but it absolutely should be Little LT and Cam RT.
This is exactly right.
03-08-2022, 08:35 PM
I like what I saw from Little in his limited time. Before his college injury he was going to be a top 10-15 pick. I hope to see him get to that form. It's a small sample size so hard to say right now.
03-08-2022, 08:40 PM
(03-08-2022, 08:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]You can’t be calling OLine out because you thought Taylor was going to have his best year yet this past season. The only reason you have these feelings about Taylor is because he went to Florida.(03-08-2022, 07:56 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I'd show Taylor the door. He's useless. In fact, he's a major liability.
You said the same thing about Cam last year and then wanted to tag him this year lol. Im curious to see if he can have a career year on a contract year like a lot of players do
(03-08-2022, 08:00 PM)NoShoes Wrote: [ -> ]You’d be silly to not at least let him compete. Cut him on the last round in august if he doesn’t shake
Exactly, he is in a contract year. See how he can do
At this point, we know who Taylor is. He’s a very below average and slow tackle. Don’t care if he’s here or not because he won’t be starting on this team next year.
03-08-2022, 09:05 PM
(03-08-2022, 08:40 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ](03-08-2022, 08:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]You said the same thing about Cam last year and then wanted to tag him this year lol. Im curious to see if he can have a career year on a contract year like a lot of players doYou can’t be calling OLine out because you thought Taylor was going to have his best year yet this past season. The only reason you have these feelings about Taylor is because he went to Florida.
Exactly, he is in a contract year. See how he can do
At this point, we know who Taylor is. He’s a very below average and slow tackle. Don’t care if he’s here or not because he won’t be starting on this team next year.
Did I say he was good? He won't be starting but sometimes there are injuries. A lot of players have career years in a contract year. It would be stupid to cut him before we see him with the new staff being he's still on a rookie deal
(03-08-2022, 08:06 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]It doesn't matter, you wanted to cut him and he Cam was much better than the guy you wanted to draft(03-08-2022, 08:00 PM)NoShoes Wrote: [ -> ]You’d be silly to not at least let him compete. Cut him on the last round in august if he doesn’t shake
I'll let him compete, but I'm making sure I find upgrades, so his chances to make the team are slim to none. He's too slow getting off the snap. He always has been.
(03-08-2022, 08:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]You said the same thing about Cam last year and then wanted to tag him this year lol. Im curious to see if he can have a career year on a contract year like a lot of players do
Exactly, he is in a contract year. See how he can do
There was a major difference between the Cam Robinson situation last season and now. Last year's OT class was much stronger and deeper than it is this year. We had other options. This year we don't. Cam is the best of a bad situation and it's just for one year. He's a band-aid.
03-08-2022, 09:27 PM
This is the wrong move IMO. This is why we should have fired Baalke and hired a GM who knows how to evaluate talent.
03-08-2022, 09:40 PM
(03-08-2022, 08:19 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ](03-08-2022, 08:06 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]There was a major difference between the Cam Robinson situation last season and now. Last year's OT class was much stronger and deeper than it is this year. We had other options. This year we don't. Cam is the best of a bad situation and it's just for one year. He's a band-aid.
Another major difference is that a large part, if not majority, of Cam's improvement can be attributed to Trevor's already advanced pocket skills. Jawaan got the Trevor bump last year too, yet he stayed extremely subpar.
Ha! No one else mentioned it so I will. TL’s pocket skills are one of his main development areas. He takes off far too often, throwing on the fly. This is a symptom of his poor field reading skills which force him to wait for developments rather than better anticipating his chances (and staying in the pocket to execute). Pat Mahomes he ain’t. TL needs to learn pocket skills something fierce and I’m hoping this QB coach they hired, who has an impressive resume for a QB coach, is just the guy to teach him.
03-08-2022, 09:56 PM
(03-08-2022, 09:40 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]Ha! No one else mentioned it so I will. TL’s pocket skills are one of his main development areas. He takes off far too often, throwing on the fly. This is a symptom of his poor field reading skills which force him to wait for developments rather than better anticipating his chances (and staying in the pocket to execute). Pat Mahomes he ain’t. TL needs to learn pocket skills something fierce and I’m hoping this QB coach they hired, who has an impressive resume for a QB coach, is just the guy to teach him.
I'm sure this isn't a perfect picture, but Trevor was the 6th best in the league at avoiding turning pressures into sacks.
https://twitter.com/SethWalder/status/14...0195971077
03-08-2022, 11:03 PM
I'd still draft Neal and put him at RT potentially. Having solid players to pick from on the Oline is never a bad thing.
03-09-2022, 01:00 AM
Dumb move, Walker Little is already better than Cam.
03-09-2022, 01:52 AM
(03-08-2022, 11:03 PM)Preach Wrote: [ -> ]I'd still draft Neal and put him at RT potentially. Having solid players to pick from on the Oline is never a bad thing.
So then you're already giving up on a 23 year old Walker Little (turns 23 in April) who was drafted #45 overall in this past draft, or you're wasting $17m on Cam to sit on the bench?
03-09-2022, 02:05 AM
(03-09-2022, 01:00 AM)navyjagfan Wrote: [ -> ]Dumb move, Walker Little is already better than Cam.
The team disagrees. Little is the LT backup next year.
This doesn't change anything regarding the draft. They could still take Neal at 1.
03-09-2022, 02:13 AM
(03-09-2022, 02:05 AM)CanDoBetter Wrote: [ -> ](03-09-2022, 01:00 AM)navyjagfan Wrote: [ -> ]Dumb move, Walker Little is already better than Cam.
The team disagrees. Little is the LT backup next year.
This doesn't change anything regarding the draft. They could still take Neal at 1.
Who says Little is the backup LT next year?
And what a mistake it would be to still take Neal, or any OT #1 overall now.. But this is the Jags we're talking about and they love making a mess out of things.