(04-19-2022, 11:57 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (04-18-2022, 03:22 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]I didn't go to MIT but I believe the 6-8 option falls within the 6-10 win parameter.
I'm no rocket surgeon but I do believe you're right.
So by that measure, you'd be happy with the options being 0 wins, 17 wins, or 1-16 wins?
(04-19-2022, 12:07 PM)iapetus Wrote: [ -> ] (04-19-2022, 11:57 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]I'm no rocket surgeon but I do believe you're right.
So by that measure, you'd be happy with the options being 0 wins, 17 wins, or 1-16 wins?
I would be outraged and demand a refund.
(04-19-2022, 12:07 PM)iapetus Wrote: [ -> ] (04-19-2022, 11:57 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]I'm no rocket surgeon but I do believe you're right.
So by that measure, you'd be happy with the options being 0 wins, 17 wins, or 1-16 wins?
I'd be indifferent. I dont rest my emotions on such things.
If that was the poll my vote would go to 1-16.
If you think we are an 8 win team, why is 6-10 wins a bad choice?
Otherwise, we could just make a poll with 17 choices... or no poll at all and just discuss the wins and losses in one of the other numerous threads such discussion would fit.
(04-19-2022, 12:07 PM)iapetus Wrote: [ -> ] (04-19-2022, 11:57 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]I'm no rocket surgeon but I do believe you're right.
So by that measure, you'd be happy with the options being 0 wins, 17 wins, or 1-16 wins?
Not necessarily. Let me put it in layman's terms . If one is seeking a girl on the dating market at 1:30am in Jax Beach on a Saturday night, jagaurmvp prefers a narrow parameter option of a girl weighing from 110 to 130 pounds. The original option is a parameter of a girl weighing from 110 to 150 pounds. Your vast option includes any female weighing between 60 to 210 pounds.
As can see, it's really a different level of
measurement.
(04-18-2022, 03:22 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2022, 08:45 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ]Need a 6-8 option. 10 wins is shooting for the moon.
I didn't go to MIT but I believe the 6-8 option falls within the 6-10 win parameter.
There is a pretty big difference from hovering around .500 and getting 10 wins and probably in the playoffs.
I will say 4 or 5. I am expecting more than last year for sure... Would I love if we got about 7-9 or even more HELL YES...
(04-18-2022, 03:31 AM)iapetus Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2022, 10:31 PM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]Ask again in 2 weeks after the draft is over.
Ask again in a year after the season's over. Should have an even better idea by then.
lol yep. I am going with 5 wins this year. Last year I thought 7 was reasonable and we sucked all the way to 3. Obviously my expectations were too high. This year I am just asking for 2 more wins. I think we did enough to get that.
(04-18-2022, 08:43 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I'm seriously debating getting season tickets this year. Something tells me it's going to be a really fun season.
I decided to drop mine after being a STH since year one. This year, I'll be cheering them on to 4 or 5 wins from my living room!
(04-19-2022, 08:33 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: [ -> ] (04-18-2022, 03:22 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]I didn't go to MIT but I believe the 6-8 option falls within the 6-10 win parameter.
There is a pretty big difference from hovering around .500 and getting 10 wins and probably in the playoffs.
one game is a big difference? 9-8 is hovering around .500 now.
(04-19-2022, 04:13 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (04-19-2022, 12:07 PM)iapetus Wrote: [ -> ]So by that measure, you'd be happy with the options being 0 wins, 17 wins, or 1-16 wins?
Not necessarily. Let me put it in layman's terms . If one is seeking a girl on the dating market at 1:30am in Jax Beach on a Saturday night, jagaurmvp prefers a narrow parameter option of a girl weighing from 110 to 130 pounds. The original option is a parameter of a girl weighing from 110 to 150 pounds. Your vast option includes any female weighing between 60 to 210 pounds.
As can see, it's really a different level of measurement.
Let
me put it in layman's terms for you; 6-10 wins is a range that runs from a losing season to a likely playoff berth (in fact, to the record of the Superbowl runners up last year...) That's not a helpful range. To put it in perspective, last year that's the range from earning the 7th pick in the draft to being a FG away from winning the Superbowl. Most of the league fell in that range. Ranking teams by draft order, only seven teams fall outside the span from the 6-win team to the lowest-drafting 10-win team.
(04-17-2022, 09:39 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2022, 09:18 PM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ]We are supposed to have a generational talent at QB, if 10 is "the moon" for this QB, do we have to already admit we were wrong about Lawrence? The defense should be serviceable, maybe even top 12-15 in some categories. Are we really expecting another pitiful season from TL? I'd say 10 is probably do-able if he is as advertised this season. I certainly would be more surprised if we have 6 or less wins this year with the coach and QB we have in place, the rest sorts itself out.
Seriously? We just had one of the worst 18 months of franchise life in NFL history. The idea that the new coach can suddenly fix the destruction of this roster and complete waste of our offseason capital from last year is ridiculous. Now this year all of the teams in the League are back on par with us and our only real advantage is the overall number one pick in a year where no college player is clearly the right pick. Even if Pederson and TLaw do absolutely everything right this team is still a year away.
I disagree, I think if they are up to their potential or perceived potential this team pushes for a 7 seed, possibly 9 or 10 wins. The division is not some world beater like the AFC west where it will be a total blood bath. Yes the Colts and Titans are well ran teams, but they are certainly bearable and don’t have guys like Herbert or Mahomes under center. I just think a quick turnaround is very possible this year.
I'll go with our three from last year plus;
add one for better coaching.....4
add one for Trevor's improvement.....5
add one for free agency, we gained more than we lost.....6
add one for rookies, obviously where we're picking is a huge advantage and ETN is essentially a rookie.....7
add one for a professional, focused and positive winning attitude, the Urban disaster is history and the Tebow question is forever answered......8
subtract one for reality.....7
(04-20-2022, 12:10 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]I'll go with our three from last year plus;
add one for better coaching.....4
add one for Trevor's improvement.....5
add one for free agency, we gained more than we lost.....6
add one for rookies, obviously where we're picking is a huge advantage and ETN is essentially a rookie.....7
add one for a professional, focused and positive winning attitude, the Urban disaster is history and the Tebow question is forever answered......8
subtract one for reality.....7
Subtract 1 more bc Wright probably doesn’t bang that 53 yarder any other time in his life.
(04-20-2022, 11:58 AM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ] (04-17-2022, 09:39 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously? We just had one of the worst 18 months of franchise life in NFL history. The idea that the new coach can suddenly fix the destruction of this roster and complete waste of our offseason capital from last year is ridiculous. Now this year all of the teams in the League are back on par with us and our only real advantage is the overall number one pick in a year where no college player is clearly the right pick. Even if Pederson and TLaw do absolutely everything right this team is still a year away.
I disagree, I think if they are up to their potential or perceived potential this team pushes for a 7 seed, possibly 9 or 10 wins. The division is not some world beater like the AFC west where it will be a total blood bath. Yes the Colts and Titans are well ran teams, but they are certainly bearable and don’t have guys like Herbert or Mahomes under center. I just think a quick turnaround is very possible this year.
At best they split with Indy and the tacks and sweep the tinhorns. Who out of the rest of the schedule to you think they can beat? The jets and lions? Maybe. Any of NFC Least teams? Maybe the Giants but that's about it.
I think 6 wins is the max this year.
(04-20-2022, 04:09 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (04-20-2022, 11:58 AM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ]I disagree, I think if they are up to their potential or perceived potential this team pushes for a 7 seed, possibly 9 or 10 wins. The division is not some world beater like the AFC west where it will be a total blood bath. Yes the Colts and Titans are well ran teams, but they are certainly bearable and don’t have guys like Herbert or Mahomes under center. I just think a quick turnaround is very possible this year.
At best they split with Indy and the tacks and sweep the tinhorns. Who out of the rest of the schedule to you think they can beat? The jets and lions? Maybe. Any of NFC Least teams? Maybe the Giants but that's about it.
I think 6 wins is the max this year.
AFC West is LOADED. That’s likely 4 losses but I didn’t think they would beat the Bills.
6-8 wins I think.
considering the Jags have the toughest schedule in nfl again just like they do every year. 6 wins would be impressive. I am not expecting very comptive games still.
Doug hasn't showed his coaching in jacksonville yet in a meanfugial game. we had hype from last serveal jags Head Coaches about turning the culture around,and all have faild,and been big dissapoints.
if we are lucky jags will win 6 games,but im not expecting it. I am expecting maybe 4 to 5 wins this year,unless doug proves to be the head coach that does what he said,and acctuttly changes the culture with help from the right player.
A winning HC knows who the right players are.
(04-20-2022, 06:05 PM)snowwolf776 Wrote: [ -> ]considering the Jags have the toughest schedule in nfl again just like they do every year. 6 wins would be impressive. I am not expecting very comptive games still.
Doug hasn't showed his coaching in jacksonville yet in a meanfugial game. we had hype from last serveal jags Head Coaches about turning the culture around,and all have faild,and been big dissapoints.
if we are lucky jags will win 6 games,but im not expecting it. I am expecting maybe 4 to 5 wins this year,unless doug proves to be the head coach that does what he said,and acctuttly changes the culture with help from the right player.
A winning HC knows who the right players are.
What are you basing this off of? Because the site I looked at says it’s quite the opposite.
(04-20-2022, 03:39 PM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: [ -> ] (04-20-2022, 12:10 PM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ]I'll go with our three from last year plus;
add one for better coaching.....4
add one for Trevor's improvement.....5
add one for free agency, we gained more than we lost.....6
add one for rookies, obviously where we're picking is a huge advantage and ETN is essentially a rookie.....7
add one for a professional, focused and positive winning attitude, the Urban disaster is history and the Tebow question is forever answered......8
subtract one for reality.....7
Subtract 1 more bc Wright probably doesn’t bang that 53 yarder any other time in his life.
I already covered that under the reality subtraction. Gimme back my 7th win.
(04-20-2022, 06:22 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ] (04-20-2022, 06:05 PM)snowwolf776 Wrote: [ -> ]considering the Jags have the toughest schedule in nfl again just like they do every year. 6 wins would be impressive. I am not expecting very comptive games still.
Doug hasn't showed his coaching in jacksonville yet in a meanfugial game. we had hype from last serveal jags Head Coaches about turning the culture around,and all have faild,and been big dissapoints.
if we are lucky jags will win 6 games,but im not expecting it. I am expecting maybe 4 to 5 wins this year,unless doug proves to be the head coach that does what he said,and acctuttly changes the culture with help from the right player.
A winning HC knows who the right players are.
What are you basing this off of? Because the site I looked at says it’s quite the opposite.
Obviously the meanfungial stuff…. Soo these days probably pops, madden, and where the super bowl is being played.
(04-20-2022, 06:05 PM)snowwolf776 Wrote: [ -> ]considering the Jags have the toughest schedule in nfl again just like they do every year. 6 wins would be impressive. I am not expecting very comptive games still.
Doug hasn't showed his coaching in jacksonville yet in a meanfugial game. we had hype from last serveal jags Head Coaches about turning the culture around,and all have faild,and been big dissapoints.
if we are lucky jags will win 6 games,but im not expecting it. I am expecting maybe 4 to 5 wins this year,unless doug proves to be the head coach that does what he said,and acctuttly changes the culture with help from the right player.
A winning HC knows who the right players are.
The Jaguars have the 26th ranked schedule and are only two games away from being tied for the easiest schedule in the NFL. We have 5 games against the 4 worst teams in the NFL from last year (excluding the Jaguars). That's almost a third of the season. The other games may not seem easy, but that's just parity in the NFL. Over half of the teams in the NFL had between 7 and 10 wins last year. Let's not brush those games off as automatic losses either. Last year, we beat the Bills, Colts and Dolphins and came within 3 points of the Super Bowl bound Bengals.