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(08-04-2022, 10:00 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-04-2022, 09:51 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]The problem Chaisson has is he was drafted in the 1st round. There's a certain level of expectation and he's come nowhere near it sadly. Then look at someone like Ngakoue as  3rd rounder and he was way above that level.

I agree with you that we haven't done a lot to help him in terms of system and where we've lined him up but for me, the 1st round pick label is what causes a lot of the criticism.

I agree on the level of expectation and and round where they were drafted.

But Ngakoue vs Chaisson is wierd comparison. 

Ngakoue had one 1 major skill where he he near elite -- pass rushing. But he is is average or below average everything else. He was perfectly cast on the early Jags teams, and consistently fills needs on other teams when he fills that sole need. But there is a reason he is already on his 4th team.

Chaisson was best suited for a jack-of-trades position on a 3-4 defense that valued his versatility and coached up his ceiling, basically the Patriots style defenses of a few years ago. Instead he was drafted to a team that wanted to turn him into a pash rusher, and did a horrible job trying to develop that skill.

I will grant you that he takes some blame for development having had 2 off seasons to work on skills and not showing anything yet. But in a different multiverse, he is a key starter for a different team.

I get you and I like you say we tried to use him as a pass rusher in the 3-4 which a lot of the time became  5-2 as we struggled stopping the run and that didn't seem a strength of his. I've not really seen enough from him to know if he could be a coverage guy at LB but with the talent we had at that spot and coaches never trying him there is a worry. 

But I definitely feel we've had some players we have let down with how dysfunctional and ever changing we have been the last few years and not helped take those steps to developing their talent.

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(08-04-2022, 10:09 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/baxstboys/status/155...KzaYaVrZJg

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https://twitter.com/dlinevids1/status/15...YBC5T0YM3g

Weird seeing the number #44 get to a QB!

(08-04-2022, 10:08 PM)MoJagFan Wrote: [ -> ]Rome wasn't built in a day and honestly Peterson didn't take extra practices, early camp start or anything to hurry us along. Until I see it on the field, this is a team that has sucked for 9/10 ths of the Khan error.

Probably be more worried if they looked like world beaters in a preseason game.

Raiders started their camp on the 18th, we didn't start ours until the 24th. We also only had two padded practices before this game. Not really a surprise they look this unprepared for a game.

The more I think about it, the more I really don’t care about the score. Walker looked like a beast. Showed a lot in a short set of plays. Luton has been so off that evaluating the offense is next to impossible.

Luton gone.

Luton doesn't make it out of the preseaon.

so daniels and peterson talked before the game and agreed to keep it simple

and the butthead daniels says i grew up here no way im losing this game in front of my family --- we going with the reverse LOL

Sargent with a couple of nice plays.

Raiders called off the dogs.

jags get a positive play and the refs are in mid season form here is a flag

They keep on calling Jeff Cotton a first year player which is simply not true

(08-04-2022, 10:01 PM)cincyjacket Wrote: [ -> ]TLaw has a bird chest.

Put that pigeon back in its cage!

Barely made it, from 46.

Don't matter who the Coach, QB, WRs, backups, starters yada yada, our offense always and I mean always, looks like ripe dog [BLEEP] in the preseason and usually follows suit in the reg.

TD~~~~ wait there is a flag lol

why does every big play we get is associated with a flag man? Jesus can this team do anything without getting a flag?

SMH

Felt good there for about 10 seconds then fell off the couch laughing...

Mid-season form already! Never change Jags!!

We are not allowed to have exciting plays. Refs automatically pull the flag