(09-30-2022, 07:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (09-30-2022, 06:05 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Your last sentence is the literal definition of a trap game hahaha
You’re making up the fact that this is a trap game for some reason. The Jags are 2-1, just destroyed the Chargers and clots, and they have Doug Pederson as the HC. The Eagles aren’t overlooking anyone and they’re certainly not looking ahead to the Cardinals.
No coach ever overlooks any team in the NFL. Any given Sunday any team can win. We are huge underdogs, the Eagles and most people think they are the best team in the league right now. They don't think we are on their level, this is definitely a trap game. The number 1 team in the league vs the 18th ranked team that was the worst team in the league last year. Yeah man, just like we are gonna lose to the Colts and Chargers and we don't expect to win lol
Like I said. You’re just making stuff up lol
You first say no coach ever overlooks a team and then go on to say they don’t think we are on their level. That is called…. Overlooking.
You have no idea what these coaches and players are thinking. You’re just making stuff up for whatever reason.
You can call it a trap game all you want but it’s not.
(09-30-2022, 07:10 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (09-30-2022, 07:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]No coach ever overlooks any team in the NFL. Any given Sunday any team can win. We are huge underdogs, the Eagles and most people think they are the best team in the league right now. They don't think we are on their level, this is definitely a trap game. The number 1 team in the league vs the 18th ranked team that was the worst team in the league last year. Yeah man, just like we are gonna lose to the Colts and Chargers and we don't expect to win lol
Like I said. You’re just making stuff up lol
You first say no coach ever overlooks a team and then go on to say they don’t think we are on their level. That is called…. Overlooking.
You have no idea what these coaches and players are thinking. You’re just making stuff up for whatever reason.
You can call it a trap game all you want but it’s not.
You can still think a team is not on your level without overlooking them lol, cmon man. It's definitely a trap game and our players just need to use it to our advantage. I've also seen a few Eagle fans that mention it a trap game for them. It's a perfect trap game. #1 vs #18 in Philly. I can't wait
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(09-30-2022, 07:10 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (09-30-2022, 07:01 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]No coach ever overlooks any team in the NFL. Any given Sunday any team can win. We are huge underdogs, the Eagles and most people think they are the best team in the league right now. They don't think we are on their level, this is definitely a trap game. The number 1 team in the league vs the 18th ranked team that was the worst team in the league last year. Yeah man, just like we are gonna lose to the Colts and Chargers and we don't expect to win lol
Like I said. You’re just making stuff up lol
You first say no coach ever overlooks a team and then go on to say they don’t think we are on their level. That is called…. Overlooking.
You have no idea what these coaches and players are thinking. You’re just making stuff up for whatever reason.
You can call it a trap game all you want but it’s not.
The more I think of you saying that the Eagles had this game circled before the season instead of Doug having this game circled is comical to me lol. Your thought process is usually backwards though so it makes sense lol
(09-30-2022, 07:27 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-30-2022, 07:10 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Like I said. You’re just making stuff up lol
You first say no coach ever overlooks a team and then go on to say they don’t think we are on their level. That is called…. Overlooking.
You have no idea what these coaches and players are thinking. You’re just making stuff up for whatever reason.
You can call it a trap game all you want but it’s not.
The more I think of you saying that the Eagles had this game circled before the season instead of Doug having this game circled is comical to me lol. Your thought process is usually backwards though so it makes sense lol
Did I say instead of Doug?
I believe both the Eagles and Doug had this game circled and it’s hard to deny that. Doug is coming back to the place where he has a statue for the first time. It’s big for both the Eagles and Doug.
You, however, aren’t sure what a trap game actually is so this back and forth is going no where.
(09-30-2022, 07:38 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (09-30-2022, 07:27 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]
The more I think of you saying that the Eagles had this game circled before the season instead of Doug having this game circled is comical to me lol. Your thought process is usually backwards though so it makes sense lol
Did I say instead of Doug?
I believe both the Eagles and Doug had this game circled and it’s hard to deny that. Doug is coming back to the place where he has a statue for the first time. It’s big for both the Eagles and Doug.
You, however, aren’t sure what a trap game actually is so this back and forth is going no where.
Lol, at the Eagles having the worst team in the league last year circled because Doug is there. lmao. Ive already taught told you what a trap game is and you are looking at it. #1 vs #18 in Philly. I think they are over confident and hopefully that proves in our favor. I also think the rain will favor the Jags. Jags RBs>>>>Phillys RBs
(09-30-2022, 07:48 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (09-30-2022, 07:38 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Did I say instead of Doug?
I believe both the Eagles and Doug had this game circled and it’s hard to deny that. Doug is coming back to the place where he has a statue for the first time. It’s big for both the Eagles and Doug.
You, however, aren’t sure what a trap game actually is so this back and forth is going no where.
Lol, at the Eagles having the worst team in the league last year circled because Doug is there. lmao. Ive already taught told you what a trap game is and you are looking at it. #1 vs #18 in Philly. I think they are over confident and hopefully that proves in our favor. I also think the rain will favor the Jags. Jags RBs>>>>Phillys RBs
Def agree on the RB comparison.
Jags QB > Eagles QB
Jags RBs > Eagles RBs
Jags WRs < Eagles WRs
Jags OL < Eagles OL
Jags DL > Eagles DL
Jags LBs > Eagles LBs
Jags secondary < Eagles secondary
Jags coaching > Eagles coaching
That's how I see it anyway.
(10-01-2022, 12:27 AM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ]Jags QB > Eagles QB
Jags RBs > Eagles RBs
Jags WRs < Eagles WRs
Jags OL < Eagles OL
Jags DL > Eagles DL
Jags LBs > Eagles LBs
Jags secondary < Eagles secondary
Jags coaching > Eagles coaching
That's how I see it anyway.
The dlines are very close imo. I'd say even. Also the secondary is even imo. They have the All Pro CB in Slay but I also think that one is very close
(10-01-2022, 12:27 AM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ]Jags QB > Eagles QB
Jags RBs > Eagles RBs
Jags WRs < Eagles WRs
Jags OL < Eagles OL
Jags DL > Eagles DL
Jags LBs > Eagles LBs
Jags secondary < Eagles secondary
Jags coaching > Eagles coaching
That's how I see it anyway.
I think Lawrence and Hurts are equal. I give the benefit to Hurts in this game strictly because it's at home.
No brainer there with the RB group. Jacksonville by a good mile or two.
No brainer there with the WR group. Brown and Smith's speed is just too scary to pick against.
I also like their TE group over ours.
Eagles OL and DL are better than ours IMHO. Our line is good against the run but Philadelphia gets after the QB better and they have also kept their opponents in check on the scoreboard the past two weeks. Just as good as we have.
I like our LB group over theirs for sure.
I like their secondary (slightly) over ours for sure.
I like our coaching over their staff simply because Pederson has more experience and, as Cleatwood revealed, Caldwell has a pretty good record against Hurts already in two match up's he's schemed very well and put Hurts into some pretty tough spots.
(10-01-2022, 08:58 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2022, 12:27 AM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ]Jags QB > Eagles QB
Jags RBs > Eagles RBs
Jags WRs < Eagles WRs
Jags OL < Eagles OL
Jags DL > Eagles DL
Jags LBs > Eagles LBs
Jags secondary < Eagles secondary
Jags coaching > Eagles coaching
That's how I see it anyway.
I think Lawrence and Hurts are equal. I give the benefit to Hurts in this game strictly because it's at home.
No brainer there with the RB group. Jacksonville by a good mile or two.
No brainer there with the WR group. Brown and Smith's speed is just too scary to pick against.
I also like their TE group over ours.
Eagles OL and DL are better than ours IMHO. Our line is good against the run but Philadelphia gets after the QB better and they have also kept their opponents in check on the scoreboard the past two weeks. Just as good as we have.
I like our LB group over theirs for sure.
I like their secondary (slightly) over ours for sure.
I like our coaching over their staff simply because Pederson has more experience and, as Cleatwood revealed, Caldwell has a pretty good record against Hurts already in two match up's he's schemed very well and put Hurts into some pretty tough spots.
Im no so sure about this. When we have Allen-Smoot-Key-Walker as our dline i dont think the Eagles have a better front than that that can get after the QB regardless of how many sacks they had last week.
(09-30-2022, 07:48 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (09-30-2022, 07:38 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Did I say instead of Doug?
I believe both the Eagles and Doug had this game circled and it’s hard to deny that. Doug is coming back to the place where he has a statue for the first time. It’s big for both the Eagles and Doug.
You, however, aren’t sure what a trap game actually is so this back and forth is going no where.
Lol, at the Eagles having the worst team in the league last year circled because Doug is there. lmao. Ive already taught told you what a trap game is and you are looking at it. #1 vs #18 in Philly. I think they are over confident and hopefully that proves in our favor. I also think the rain will favor the Jags. Jags RBs>>>>Phillys RBs
‘Taught you’. Dude, you’re the one that doesn’t know what a trap game is but you keep making up your own definitions on the fly do you don’t have to admit. Using your standard argument techniques. Carry on, I’m enjoying the twists and turns.
(10-01-2022, 09:24 AM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ] (09-30-2022, 07:48 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Lol, at the Eagles having the worst team in the league last year circled because Doug is there. lmao. Ive already taught told you what a trap game is and you are looking at it. #1 vs #18 in Philly. I think they are over confident and hopefully that proves in our favor. I also think the rain will favor the Jags. Jags RBs>>>>Phillys RBs
‘Taught you’. Dude, you’re the one that doesn’t know what a trap game is but you keep making up your own definitions on the fly do you don’t have to admit. Using your standard argument techniques. Carry on, I’m enjoying the twists and turns.
Go tally up your 3,2,1 game and let us know who your winner is at the end of the season lol. I know it was confusing for you.
(10-01-2022, 09:24 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2022, 08:58 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]I think Lawrence and Hurts are equal. I give the benefit to Hurts in this game strictly because it's at home.
No brainer there with the RB group. Jacksonville by a good mile or two.
No brainer there with the WR group. Brown and Smith's speed is just too scary to pick against.
I also like their TE group over ours.
Eagles OL and DL are better than ours IMHO. Our line is good against the run but Philadelphia gets after the QB better and they have also kept their opponents in check on the scoreboard the past two weeks. Just as good as we have.
I like our LB group over theirs for sure.
I like their secondary (slightly) over ours for sure.
I like our coaching over their staff simply because Pederson has more experience and, as Cleatwood revealed, Caldwell has a pretty good record against Hurts already in two match up's he's schemed very well and put Hurts into some pretty tough spots.
Im no so sure about this. When we have Allen-Smoot-Key-Walker as our dline i dont think the Eagles have a better front than that that can get after the QB regardless of how many sacks they had last week.
In this match-up I am more concerned with Cox and Davis Vs. Fortner and Bartch. That's not in our favor in this game. That's probably your make or break match up in this game. If those guys get pushed around a lot and they're collapsing the pocket we'll be in a lot of trouble tomorrow.
The key is Pederson's approach. I think Philly knows they match up well interior wise. They're going to expect us to run the football outside and around the tackles, pitch plays, sweeps, [BLEEP] like that.
I would LIKE to think that Pederson is ahead of that already and they're not going to try that too much since they're looking for it. If it's me? I am running counters and I am using the screen game early and often. I know I mentioned it somewhere but the first three weeks we saw Lawrence handing it off probably 90% of the time in the RPO plays.
It should be about 50/50 tomorrow in my opinion. He's had some opportunities to take it downfield on his own and pick up some chunk plays. He's going to have to do it tomorrow. Also falls back on the TE position being underutilized so far. Once that RPO gets working and LB's have to sneak peak into Lawrence's hands more on hand off's? Engram and Arnold should be able to make a good living in nickel and dime yardage situations on the outside and in quick hitch opportunities over the middle.
This game is going to be fun tomorrow. Cannot wait to see how these two staffs approach this game.
(10-01-2022, 09:30 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2022, 09:24 AM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]‘Taught you’. Dude, you’re the one that doesn’t know what a trap game is but you keep making up your own definitions on the fly do you don’t have to admit. Using your standard argument techniques. Carry on, I’m enjoying the twists and turns.
Go tally up your 3,2,1 game and let us know who your winner is at the end of the season lol. I know it was confusing for you.
As usual. No true comeback. Standard change of tune. Oh, I forgot…LOL
(10-01-2022, 10:26 AM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2022, 09:30 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Go tally up your 3,2,1 game and let us know who your winner is at the end of the season lol. I know it was confusing for you.
As usual. No true comeback. Standard change of tune. Oh, I forgot…LOL
Comeback? It's pointless with you because most things are very hard for you to understand. Can't wait for the trap game Sun. #1 vs #18 the big underdog going on the road against the number 1 team right now. I'm smelling a upset.
(10-01-2022, 10:11 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2022, 09:24 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Im no so sure about this. When we have Allen-Smoot-Key-Walker as our dline i dont think the Eagles have a better front than that that can get after the QB regardless of how many sacks they had last week.
In this match-up I am more concerned with Cox and Davis Vs. Fortner and Bartch. That's not in our favor in this game. That's probably your make or break match up in this game. If those guys get pushed around a lot and they're collapsing the pocket we'll be in a lot of trouble tomorrow.
The key is Pederson's approach. I think Philly knows they match up well interior wise. They're going to expect us to run the football outside and around the tackles, pitch plays, sweeps, [BLEEP] like that.
I would LIKE to think that Pederson is ahead of that already and they're not going to try that too much since they're looking for it. If it's me? I am running counters and I am using the screen game early and often. I know I mentioned it somewhere but the first three weeks we saw Lawrence handing it off probably 90% of the time in the RPO plays.
It should be about 50/50 tomorrow in my opinion. He's had some opportunities to take it downfield on his own and pick up some chunk plays. He's going to have to do it tomorrow. Also falls back on the TE position being underutilized so far. Once that RPO gets working and LB's have to sneak peak into Lawrence's hands more on hand off's? Engram and Arnold should be able to make a good living in nickel and dime yardage situations on the outside and in quick hitch opportunities over the middle.
This game is going to be fun tomorrow. Cannot wait to see how these two staffs approach this game.
There isn't any doubt that Phillys interior is the biggest concern going against a rookie and Bartch who has struggled at times in pass protection. I'm glad we brought in Scherff though. Fortner went up against Davis last year and actually played pretty good so he won't be new to Davis. I wonder if Dickson plays because if not that will be a huge loss for the Eagles
(10-01-2022, 11:22 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2022, 10:26 AM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]As usual. No true comeback. Standard change of tune. Oh, I forgot…LOL
Comeback? It's pointless with you because most things are very hard for you to understand.
You mean, like English? I should of known because I seen all of your posts.
Oh and by the way:
"There is no set definition for precisely what constitutes a "trap" game. But here's a loose explanation:
A game in which a playoff contender faces a losing team, but one that still has some motivation for playing hard, and possesses some matchup advantages."
(10-01-2022, 12:11 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2022, 11:22 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Comeback? It's pointless with you because most things are very hard for you to understand.
You mean, like English? I should of known because I seen all of your posts.
Oh and by the way:
"There is no set definition for precisely what constitutes a "trap" game. But here's a loose explanation: A game in which a playoff contender faces a losing team, but one that still has some motivation for playing hard, and possesses some matchup advantages."
Google trap game meaning and its right there at the top.
A trap game is defined in a variety of ways, but it essentially boils down to
a high-ranked team playing in a game that everyone expects them to win against a far lesser opponent (
not necessarily a losing team).
You learn something new every day!
Cant wait for this trap game for the Eagles.
(10-01-2022, 12:17 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2022, 12:11 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]You mean, like English? I should of known because I seen all of your posts.
Oh and by the way:
"There is no set definition for precisely what constitutes a "trap" game. But here's a loose explanation: A game in which a playoff contender faces a losing team, but one that still has some motivation for playing hard, and possesses some matchup advantages."
Google trap game meaning and its right there at the top.
A trap game is defined in a variety of ways, but it essentially boils down to a high-ranked team playing in a game that everyone expects them to win against a far lesser opponent (not necessarily a losing team).
You learn something new every day!
Cant wait for this trap game for the Eagles.
Why argue with a brick wall? You made your point, but the brick wall doesn’t listen. It just sits there looking stupid, with all it’s bricks and stuff. LOL
(10-01-2022, 10:11 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2022, 09:24 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Im no so sure about this. When we have Allen-Smoot-Key-Walker as our dline i dont think the Eagles have a better front than that that can get after the QB regardless of how many sacks they had last week.
In this match-up I am more concerned with Cox and Davis Vs. Fortner and Bartch. That's not in our favor in this game. That's probably your make or break match up in this game. If those guys get pushed around a lot and they're collapsing the pocket we'll be in a lot of trouble tomorrow.
The key is Pederson's approach. I think Philly knows they match up well interior wise. They're going to expect us to run the football outside and around the tackles, pitch plays, sweeps, [BLEEP] like that.
I would LIKE to think that Pederson is ahead of that already and they're not going to try that too much since they're looking for it. If it's me? I am running counters and I am using the screen game early and often. I know I mentioned it somewhere but the first three weeks we saw Lawrence handing it off probably 90% of the time in the RPO plays.
It should be about 50/50 tomorrow in my opinion. He's had some opportunities to take it downfield on his own and pick up some chunk plays. He's going to have to do it tomorrow. Also falls back on the TE position being underutilized so far. Once that RPO gets working and LB's have to sneak peak into Lawrence's hands more on hand off's? Engram and Arnold should be able to make a good living in nickel and dime yardage situations on the outside and in quick hitch opportunities over the middle.
This game is going to be fun tomorrow. Cannot wait to see how these two staffs approach this game.
One thing i should of added though is i like Fortner and Bartch in run blocking. I dont think either is a liability there, both are decent run blockers
(10-01-2022, 12:25 PM)Ronster Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2022, 12:17 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Google trap game meaning and its right there at the top.
A trap game is defined in a variety of ways, but it essentially boils down to a high-ranked team playing in a game that everyone expects them to win against a far lesser opponent (not necessarily a losing team).
You learn something new every day!
Cant wait for this trap game for the Eagles.
Why argue with a brick wall? You made your point, but the brick wall doesn’t listen. It just sits there looking stupid, with all it’s bricks and stuff. LOL
You should know, you have a ton of experience.
(10-01-2022, 12:17 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-01-2022, 12:11 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]You mean, like English? I should of known because I seen all of your posts.
Oh and by the way:
"There is no set definition for precisely what constitutes a "trap" game. But here's a loose explanation: A game in which a playoff contender faces a losing team, but one that still has some motivation for playing hard, and possesses some matchup advantages."
Google trap game meaning and its right there at the top.
A trap game is defined in a variety of ways, but it essentially boils down to a high-ranked team playing in a game that everyone expects them to win against a far lesser opponent (not necessarily a losing team).
You learn something new every day!
Cant wait for this trap game for the Eagles.
OK, be honest for a change instead of the continual spinning....you're saying the Jaguars are a '
far lesser opponent'? Wow. Keep digging.