(10-20-2022, 01:13 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (10-20-2022, 12:35 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I call bs on this. He's never ran faster than the 50 yarder he broke. Most of his runs are now runs up the middle, before this year he was getting Etiennes carries and a more variety of run calls. When he's in, if a run is called its likely going to be up the middle. It's comical you think he's on the decline because of a tweet you seen about the last 3 games. You have always doubted him since his rookie year and I've called you out on it multiple, it's nothing new. You're the only one on here that thinks he's on the decline, shocker lol
Good grief you're dense.
I legit have never disliked JRob. Being objective about him doesn't mean I dislike him. I have never viewed him as a top 100 player. True. I have never once disliked him though. I think he's solid with good vision but if you think he's the same JRob pre-injury, I think you're wrong. I wouldn't give him a 2nd contract either because of his Achilles injury (which again, is notorious for ending running backs careers).
You can "call me out" on it all you want but at least have evidence that I have said he's a bad player. You won't find it because I've never said he's a bad player. What you do is take one thing I say about JRob as a criticism and immediately make it seem like I dislike him. But for the 100th time, I do not dislike JRob. I would like to see ETN with more touches because he's a better playmaker.
His rookie year and last year before Urbz benched him he was top 5 in rushing and you were saying he wasn't a top 15 back. Was our oline just that much better than everyones? Then he went on to NFL top 100 and you didn't agree with that, now you say he's on the decline because of some tweet you seen about the last 3 games. It's been fun to watch lol.
(10-20-2022, 01:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-20-2022, 01:13 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Good grief you're dense.
I legit have never disliked JRob. Being objective about him doesn't mean I dislike him. I have never viewed him as a top 100 player. True. I have never once disliked him though. I think he's solid with good vision but if you think he's the same JRob pre-injury, I think you're wrong. I wouldn't give him a 2nd contract either because of his Achilles injury (which again, is notorious for ending running backs careers).
You can "call me out" on it all you want but at least have evidence that I have said he's a bad player. You won't find it because I've never said he's a bad player. What you do is take one thing I say about JRob as a criticism and immediately make it seem like I dislike him. But for the 100th time, I do not dislike JRob. I would like to see ETN with more touches because he's a better playmaker.
His rookie year and last year before Urbz benched him he was top 5 in rushing and you were saying he wasn't a top 15 back. Was our oline just that much better than everyones? Then he went on to NFL top 100 and you didn't agree with that, now you say he's on the decline because of some tweet you seen about the last 3 games. It's been fun to watch lol.
Has his play not been on the decline the last 3 games? 8 for 29. 10 for 27. 12 for 54. Compared to his first 3 games, that sure does look like a decline. His CAREER may not be decline but his play the last 3 games certainly has.
And you're right. I didn't think he's a top 100 player. Is Jalen Ramsey the best corner and a top 10 player to you? Because according to the top 100 list, he is both of those things.
I don't think he's a top 15 back and I don't think he's a top 100 player. Now read the next part slowly.
That doesn't mean I dislike him as a player. The RB position is loaded and I don't value the RB position as being valuable.
(10-20-2022, 01:32 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (10-20-2022, 01:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]His rookie year and last year before Urbz benched him he was top 5 in rushing and you were saying he wasn't a top 15 back. Was our oline just that much better than everyones? Then he went on to NFL top 100 and you didn't agree with that, now you say he's on the decline because of some tweet you seen about the last 3 games. It's been fun to watch lol.
Has his play not been on the decline the last 3 games? 8 for 29. 10 for 27. 12 for 54. Compared to his first 3 games, that sure does look like a decline. His CAREER may not be decline but his play the last 3 games certainly has.
And you're right. I didn't think he's a top 100 player. Is Jalen Ramsey the best corner and a top 10 player to you? Because according to the top 100 list, he is both of those things.
I don't think he's a top 15 back and I don't think he's a top 100 player. Now read the next part slowly. That doesn't mean I dislike him as a player. The RB position is loaded and I don't value the RB position as being valuable.
How was he top 5 in rushing but not a top 15 back? Was he just lucky or was our oline just that good? What about his first 3 games this year? Wasn't that after the injury? Our RB position is loaded without JRob? Lol
(10-20-2022, 01:41 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (10-20-2022, 01:32 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Has his play not been on the decline the last 3 games? 8 for 29. 10 for 27. 12 for 54. Compared to his first 3 games, that sure does look like a decline. His CAREER may not be decline but his play the last 3 games certainly has.
And you're right. I didn't think he's a top 100 player. Is Jalen Ramsey the best corner and a top 10 player to you? Because according to the top 100 list, he is both of those things.
I don't think he's a top 15 back and I don't think he's a top 100 player. Now read the next part slowly. That doesn't mean I dislike him as a player. The RB position is loaded and I don't value the RB position as being valuable.
How was he top 5 in rushing but not a top 15 back? Was he just lucky or was our oline just that good? What about his first 3 games this year? Wasn't that after the injury? Our RB position is loaded without JRob? Lol
The RB position in general is loaded. I think he was a very good player who was the only option on a very very bad team for 2 years. Who else did this team have to run the ball and catch the ball before this season? Our talent level was so bad that he was the only one who could do anything.
This convo is going no where because you're trying to paint me into a corner with hating JRob. For the very last time, I do not hate him as a player. If he had never torn his Achilles, my attitude towards him would be very different.
(10-20-2022, 01:49 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (10-20-2022, 01:41 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]How was he top 5 in rushing but not a top 15 back? Was he just lucky or was our oline just that good? What about his first 3 games this year? Wasn't that after the injury? Our RB position is loaded without JRob? Lol
The RB position in general is loaded. I think he was a very good player who was the only option on a very very bad team for 2 years. Who else did this team have to run the ball and catch the ball before this season? Our talent level was so bad that he was the only one who could do anything.
This convo is going no where because you're trying to paint me into a corner with hating JRob. For the very last time, I do not hate him as a player. If he had never torn his Achilles, my attitude towards him would be very different.
He will be a restricted FA so we can match any offer. Lets see what that is and I think we will retain him.
(10-20-2022, 01:13 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (10-20-2022, 12:35 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I call bs on this. He's never ran faster than the 50 yarder he broke. Most of his runs are now runs up the middle, before this year he was getting Etiennes carries and a more variety of run calls. When he's in, if a run is called its likely going to be up the middle. It's comical you think he's on the decline because of a tweet you seen about the last 3 games. You have always doubted him since his rookie year and I've called you out on it multiple, it's nothing new. You're the only one on here that thinks he's on the decline, shocker lol
Good grief you're dense.
I legit have never disliked JRob TL. Being objective about him doesn't mean I dislike him. I have never viewed him as a top 100 generational player. True. I have never once disliked him though. I think he's solid with good vision he has a supreme arm but if you think he's the same JRob pre-injury going to become a great quarterback, I think you're wrong. I wouldn't give him a starting chance beyond next year 2nd contract either because of his Achilles injury (which again, is notorious for ending running backs careers).
You can "call me out" on it all you want but at least have an evidence-based opinion rather than "bad take" ad-hominems. evidence that I have said he's a bad player. You won't find it because I've never said he's a bad player. What you do is take one thing I say about JRob TL as a criticism and immediately make it seem like I dislike him. But for the 100th time, I do not dislike JRob TL. I would like to see ETN with more touches because he's a better playmaker him improve to be a great starter but I think he'll end up a career backup.
I cannot believe you didn't anticipate my post when you wrote yours. Surely you did, right?
(10-20-2022, 11:58 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ] (10-20-2022, 01:13 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Good grief you're dense.
I legit have never disliked JRob TL. Being objective about him doesn't mean I dislike him. I have never viewed him as a top 100 generational player. True. I have never once disliked him though. I think he's solid with good vision he has a supreme arm but if you think he's the same JRob pre-injury going to become a great quarterback, I think you're wrong. I wouldn't give him a starting chance beyond next year 2nd contract either because of his Achilles injury (which again, is notorious for ending running backs careers).
You can "call me out" on it all you want but at least have an evidence-based opinion rather than "bad take" ad-hominems. evidence that I have said he's a bad player. You won't find it because I've never said he's a bad player. What you do is take one thing I say about JRob TL as a criticism and immediately make it seem like I dislike him. But for the 100th time, I do not dislike JRob TL. I would like to see ETN with more touches because he's a better playmaker him improve to be a great starter but I think he'll end up a career backup.
I cannot believe you didn't anticipate my post when you wrote yours. Surely you did, right?
Couldn’t care less about you bud
(10-20-2022, 11:58 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ] (10-20-2022, 01:13 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Good grief you're dense.
I legit have never disliked JRob TLOzJohnnie. Being objective about him doesn't mean I dislike him. I have never viewed him as a top 100 generational player witty poster. True. I have never once disliked him though. I think he's solid with good vision he has a supreme arm he tries too hard to stir the pot at times but if you think he's the same JRob pre-injury going to become a great quarterback held in high regard around here, I think you're wrong. I wouldn't give him a starting chance beyond next year 2nd contract either because of his Achilles injury (which again, is notorious for ending running backs careers) +1 for anything he's posted.
You can "call me out" on it all you want but at least I'm bringing something to the table besides the same tired post every time I want to contribute to a thread have an evidence-based opinion rather than "bad take" ad-hominems. evidence that I have said he's a bad player. You won't find it because I've never said he's a bad player. What you do is take one thing I say about JRob TL as a criticism any unrelated thread and immediately make it seem like I dislike himabout you and your tired, uninformed taek. But for the 100th time, I do not dislike JRob TL OzJohnnie. I would like to see ETN with more touches because he's a better playmaker him improve to be a great starter as a poster but I think he'll end up a career backup disappearing into the ether once TLaw and the team proves his opinion failed.
I cannot believe you didn't anticipate my post when you wrote yours. Surely you did, right?
Silly Johnny, assuming we think about you.
(10-21-2022, 08:46 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (10-20-2022, 11:58 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]I cannot believe you didn't anticipate my post when you wrote yours. Surely you did, right?
Silly Johnny, assuming we think about you.
Who?
I thought we had a real coach. This team was on a ROLL after the Colts and Chargers game and was taking it to Philly and then one bad play seems to have derailed the entire season. Just have to trust the coaching and players to correct the mistakes and come out with a sense of urgency. I still think we need a DB or two. Lawrence is still too jekyll and hyde.
(10-21-2022, 12:41 PM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: [ -> ]I thought we had a real coach. This team was on a ROLL after the Colts and Chargers game and was taking it to Philly and then one bad play seems to have derailed the entire season. Just have to trust the coaching and players to correct the mistakes and come out with a sense of urgency. I still think we need a DB or two. Lawrence is still too jekyll and hyde.
We still have 11 ball games to go. A lot can happen. We’ve shown that we can lose with costly mistakes, but we’ve also shown that we can play with the best teams in the league.
We’re just not good enough to overcome mistakes right now. Gotta clean some stuff up. I don’t think the season is derailed.
And yes we do need a DB or 2. I’m ready to see what they are going to do with Griffin.
(10-21-2022, 07:19 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (10-20-2022, 11:58 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]I cannot believe you didn't anticipate my post when you wrote yours. Surely you did, right?
Couldn’t care less about you bud
You should because I’m right.
The Oline needs to be better. The QB needs to be allowed to play the game. Also, we need at least the threat of a rushing attack.
(10-23-2022, 04:58 AM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: [ -> ]The Oline needs to be better. The QB needs to be allowed to play the game. Also, we need at least the threat of a rushing attack.
o-line, yes
Rushing?
We're ninth in the league.
Ninth when many of have felt they're being underutilized.
Offensive Line has only allowed 10 sacks and has 4 games with 0 sacks.
Joe Flacco has been sacked the least amount of times this season. Trevor Lawrence and Tom Brady are tied for 2nd.
Lawrence is also ranked 6th for most passes attempted on the year.
the Jags could put togather a All star team from head coach to players,and they would still lose. same ol jags finding ways to lose games,and when not loseing refs give oppossing team a break.
(10-23-2022, 05:30 PM)snowwolf776 Wrote: [ -> ]the Jags could put togather a All star team from head coach to players,and they would still lose. same ol jags finding ways to lose games,and when not loseing refs give oppossing team a break.
Ok, Debbie. You getting up early next Sunday for tea and biscuits?
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I'm being realistic the team can't win right now. lost to winless texans in Jacksonville,on a four game loseing streak,no matter what team does to try and win they find ways to lose. I'm being realistic while others are dreaming of jags ever turning into a winning team, while in jacksonville. the game today had more Giants fans then jags fans. i know that cause a friend i know sent me a photo saying its embrassing.
Can we expect to see u in London next week wolfie?