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Jags benefited from some no-calls of offensive holding too. Just a bad came all around.

(10-23-2022, 10:02 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]How about this one lolol...
https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/1584280895896182785

Refereeing was bad overall, but this one would have been ticky tack if called.  If that was us on defense and it was called, someone would be holding it up as an example of bad refereeing.

(10-23-2022, 10:58 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 10:02 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]How about this one lolol...
https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/1584280895896182785

Refereeing was bad overall, but this one would have been ticky tack if called.  If that was us on defense and it was called, someone would be holding it up as an example of bad refereeing.

Nah not me that was blatant pass interference arm bar completely not allowing the receiver to get his arm around.... There's nothing ticky tacky about that

Bad refereeing all around the league It's horrendous... Watching the end of the Miami Pittsburgh game Miami defender intercepts the ball on the goal line.... Referee standing 3 ft in front of him calls incomplete or out of bounds...whatever calls it a non-interception.... A line judge has to run down the field 20 ft away to tell him it's a catch.... And it was so blatantly a catch two feet in bounds.....It was right in front of him.... Un [BLEEP] believable

I'm not one who likes to blame the refs for a lost. At the same time, I think it's legitimate to say that the refs in this game did a lousy job on a number of calls for both teams.

(10-23-2022, 09:22 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]How about our center getting called for illegal player down the field.... The announcers were like I didn't see it...so I rewound the play... he was literally blocking at the line of scrimmage the whole time.... Never moved more than one yard up the field.... and got called on a penalty for being downfield

(10-23-2022, 09:23 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 09:22 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]How about our center getting called for illegal player down the field.... The announcers were like I didn't see it...so I rewound the play... he was literally blocking at the line of scrimmage the whole time.... Never moved more than one yard up the field.... and got called on a penalty for being downfield

Sometimes they call the wrong number.  Was a different Olineman downfield?

RG just ran forward at the snap, he was 3-4 yards downfield.

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The announcing crew having their nose up the Giants rear was sickening as well.

Yes, there were a lot of bad calls (both ways), but neither the refs, nor the Giants, beat the Jaguars.  Overthrows, drops and stupid penalties cost us the game.  Once again, we beat ourselves.

(10-23-2022, 10:58 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 10:02 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]How about this one lolol...
https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/1584280895896182785

Refereeing was bad overall, but this one would have been ticky tack if called.  If that was us on defense and it was called, someone would be holding it up as an example of bad refereeing.

Ticky tack? You're not allowed to make contact with the receiver past 5 yards much less grab on to him.

It wasn't pass interference because he had committed the foul before the ball was thrown. It should have been flagged for illegal contact or holding with an automatic first down.

Look, , home team usually gets the calls. That proved true yesterday as that was a home game for the Giants. Jags fans in this city should be ashamed of themselves for that pitiful turnout. Yeah refs sucked.

while the refs made some really bad costly cals,the jags are a bad team,and lost on thier own.  as bad as jas are the nfl shouldn't need to help opposseing teams. if jags were a good team it wouldn't come down to refs makeing bad calls at pitvioal points of the game.

(10-23-2022, 08:43 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Still don't understand how they marked this short. Especially when the official is literally 5 yards away from the play... Pathetic. No clue why Doug didn't challenge it.
https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...0357500928

Actually, I looked at this frame by frame and it looks like his knee may have touched the ground just outside the 20 yard line with his back towards the first down marker and then his momentum carries him past the line to gain.

It's hard to see but if you look at the frame when his knee may have touched the ground, he hasn't gotten his body turned around and he would have been short. So it makes me believe the ref did think his knee touched the ground on the 20 and spotted it short based on that.

I know twitter doesn't provide the highest resolution or frame rate, but it looks possible his knee did touch the ground early and it was actually a correct spot.

Also, players are blocking the camera view of the crucial moments where his knee might have touched the ground until after he crosses the line to gain. It would be pretty much impossible to overturn the call due to the obstructed camera view and the ref having a perfect angle from only 5 yards away.

Not challenging seemed like a head scratcher at first, but when you notice the giant's players in the way of the camera angle, you realize it would have been a waste of a timeout.

(10-24-2022, 08:43 AM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 08:43 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Still don't understand how they marked this short. Especially when the official is literally 5 yards away from the play... Pathetic. No clue why Doug didn't challenge it.
https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...0357500928

Actually, I looked at this frame by frame and it looks like his knee may have touched the ground just outside the 20 yard line with his back towards the first down marker and then his momentum carries him past the line to gain.

It's hard to see but if you look at the frame when his knee may have touched the ground, he hasn't gotten his body turned around and he would have been short. So it makes me believe the ref did think his knee touched the ground on the 20 and spotted it short based on that.

I know twitter doesn't provide the highest resolution or frame rate, but it looks possible his knee did touch the ground early and it was actually a correct spot.

Also, players are blocking the camera view of the crucial moments where his knee might have touched the ground until after he crosses the line to gain. It would be pretty much impossible to overturn the call due to the obstructed camera view and the ref having a perfect angle from only 5 yards away.

Not challenging seemed like a head scratcher at first, but when you notice the giant's players in the way of the camera angle, you realize it would have been a waste of a timeout.

And what about the next play when he was clearly over the line on that one.... And there's cameras in that pylon it would have been nice to at least see a camera angle from that view during the game but there was literally nothing

(10-24-2022, 07:56 AM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]Look, , home team usually gets the calls. That proved true yesterday as that was a home game for the Giants. Jags fans in this city should be ashamed of themselves for that pitiful turnout. Yeah refs sucked.

From what I’ve heard, Jags ticket holders were selling to Giants fans for premium prices.

(10-24-2022, 09:49 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-24-2022, 07:56 AM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]Look, , home team usually gets the calls. That proved true yesterday as that was a home game for the Giants. Jags fans in this city should be ashamed of themselves for that pitiful turnout. Yeah refs sucked.

From what I’ve heard, Jags ticket holders were selling to Giants fans for premium prices.

Yeah , there was a strong resale market for this game.  No excuse IMO and the reason that eventually they will play elsewhere if things don't improve.

Our game day started by us showing up to the lot and finding Giants fans had set up a full DJ booth in our parking spot. Priceless watching them have to break it down and acting as like they were offended to have to do so. We were surrounded by them the entire tailgate as they shot [BLEEP] looks at us like we ruined their [BLEEP] tailgate. Then get inside the stadium only to find the place 75-80% Blue . Sucked bad man. Sad thing is probably most of them live in Florida now.

(10-23-2022, 08:22 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think I've ever seen a worse officiated game.  Almost the entire game, bad calls and no-calls were having a huge impact.  It was really biased against the Jags for the first 59 minutes of the game, then at the end it was as if the refs decided to try to even it out and questionable calls started going the Jags' way.  But it wasn't enough of course.  

I feel like we need a PFF for refs.  Where they could grade each call and see which teams are getting screwed and which aren't.  Every single fan feels like their team gets the shaft, and I would pay for someone to objectively put it out there which teams are actually getting it.

I felt the exact... same... way. Ultimately, this loss was on the Jags, but my least favorite part about being a Jags fan is the ref bias. I was so annoyed about the calls all the way up until the end, and then it was like the refs saw everything. It was noticeably weird.

(10-23-2022, 08:22 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think I've ever seen a worse officiated game.  Almost the entire game, bad calls and no-calls were having a huge impact.  It was really biased against the Jags for the first 59 minutes of the game, then at the end it was as if the refs decided to try to even it out and questionable calls started going the Jags' way.  But it wasn't enough of course.  

I feel like we need a PFF for refs.  Where they could grade each call and see which teams are getting screwed and which aren't.  Every single fan feels like their team gets the shaft, and I would pay for someone to objectively put it out there which teams are actually getting it.

When you got the type of money and market share the Giants have, the NFL will make sure your team has a certain advantage.

(10-23-2022, 08:37 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-23-2022, 08:25 PM)WYBaugh Wrote: [ -> ]Was the PI call against us in the endzone as bad as it looked in the stadium?

Yes. It was bogus.
https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/stat...0930927617

He held the WRs left arm down, preventing him from going up with 2 hands.

We had two really bad spots when we should have been given first downs. And we got one roughing call where our guy hit Jones in the shoulder, no contact to helmet, and he didn't fall down. I couldn't believe it.

(10-24-2022, 01:35 AM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]The announcing crew having their nose up the Giants rear was sickening as well.

Never been a Chris Myers fan. He's got a large market mentality that comes out in all his broadcasts, especially when the Cowboys are involved. We'll probably get him for that game as well. Schlerith is ok on talk shows, and for the most part, he was pretty even handed yesterday. Pointed out a lot of the bogus calls on the Jags, and some of the holding by the GMen that wasn't called.