(10-24-2022, 10:13 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (10-23-2022, 08:22 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think I've ever seen a worse officiated game. Almost the entire game, bad calls and no-calls were having a huge impact. It was really biased against the Jags for the first 59 minutes of the game, then at the end it was as if the refs decided to try to even it out and questionable calls started going the Jags' way. But it wasn't enough of course.
I feel like we need a PFF for refs. Where they could grade each call and see which teams are getting screwed and which aren't. Every single fan feels like their team gets the shaft, and I would pay for someone to objectively put it out there which teams are actually getting it.
I felt the exact... same... way. Ultimately, this loss was on the Jags, but my least favorite part about being a Jags fan is the ref bias. I was so annoyed about the calls all the way up until the end, and then it was like the refs saw everything. It was noticeably weird.
Qtr 1 call from Goodell to head referee: "Call this game so that it stays close, preferably with the Giants leading."
Qtr 4 call: "Call this drive in favor of the Jags. Let's see if we can't get Trevor his 1st career 4th Qtr comeback. Whatever happens, it will be dramatic and exciting."
Whatever is good for the Shield.
(10-24-2022, 11:45 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ] (10-24-2022, 10:13 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I felt the exact... same... way. Ultimately, this loss was on the Jags, but my least favorite part about being a Jags fan is the ref bias. I was so annoyed about the calls all the way up until the end, and then it was like the refs saw everything. It was noticeably weird.
Qtr 1 call from Goodell to head referee: "Call this game so that it stays close, preferably with the Giants leading."
Qtr 4 call: "Call this drive in favor of the Jags. Let's see if we can't get Trevor his 1st career 4th Qtr comeback. Whatever happens, it will be dramatic and exciting and the Giants have already covered for my call with my bookie."
Whatever is good for the Shield.
Can't forget...
There's certainly a degree of concern with rigging in the NFL. I still can't help but think of that ref back in the 2017/2018 AFC Championship loss to the Patriots. It was like the ref was in the huddle and celebrating with the offense when they scored TD's. Just doesn't seem professional at all. Even Boomer Esiason called out the officiating during the half time show on CBS. I'll never forget what he said. I appreciate him for calling that out.
You can even go back and listen to Marrone [BLEEP] and complaining about the bogus PI call on Bouye before half time. Not to mention on our previous offensive possession they allowed Bortles to scramble and hit Lewis on a critical 3rd down conversion pass and then they flagged us for false start or some [BLEEP] like that which is SUPPOSED to be a dead ball flag. You don't let that play out the way they did.
Then, here it is now just being reported from ESPN. The NFL is going to review refs in uniform seeking out Buccaneers WR Mike Evans' autograph after Sunday's game.
(10-24-2022, 02:22 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]There's certainly a degree of concern with rigging in the NFL. I still can't help but think of that ref back in the 2017/2018 AFC Championship loss to the Patriots. It was like the ref was in the huddle and celebrating with the offense when they scored TD's. Just doesn't seem professional at all. Even Boomer Esiason called out the officiating during the half time show on CBS. I'll never forget what he said. I appreciate him for calling that out.
You can even go back and listen to Marrone [BLEEP] and complaining about the bogus PI call on Bouye before half time. Not to mention on our previous offensive possession they allowed Bortles to scramble and hit Lewis on a critical 3rd down conversion pass and then they flagged us for false start or some [BLEEP] like that which is SUPPOSED to be a dead ball flag. You don't let that play out the way they did.
Then, here it is now just being reported from ESPN. The NFL is going to review refs in uniform seeking out Buccaneers WR Mike Evans' autograph after Sunday's game.
Uhhh ohhh....
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1005...mike-evans
(10-23-2022, 09:22 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]How about our center getting called for illegal player down the field.... The announcers were like I didn't see it...so I rewound the play... he was literally blocking at the line of scrimmage the whole time.... Never moved more than one yard up the field.... and got called on a penalty for being downfield
This was the worst call they made. Completely bogus.
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I was watching Pederson on the sideline [BLEEP] out the ref on the bad spot. The problem was he didn't start laying into him until after we turned it over on downs. Not that it would have made a difference. He might should've challenged it though I'm hearing that there may not have been a good camera angle to make it happen and he may have been advised of that from the booth.
Imo, the third down play was pretty obvious, even if the 2nd down wasn't.
(10-24-2022, 09:43 AM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-24-2022, 08:43 AM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ]Actually, I looked at this frame by frame and it looks like his knee may have touched the ground just outside the 20 yard line with his back towards the first down marker and then his momentum carries him past the line to gain.
It's hard to see but if you look at the frame when his knee may have touched the ground, he hasn't gotten his body turned around and he would have been short. So it makes me believe the ref did think his knee touched the ground on the 20 and spotted it short based on that.
I know twitter doesn't provide the highest resolution or frame rate, but it looks possible his knee did touch the ground early and it was actually a correct spot.
Also, players are blocking the camera view of the crucial moments where his knee might have touched the ground until after he crosses the line to gain. It would be pretty much impossible to overturn the call due to the obstructed camera view and the ref having a perfect angle from only 5 yards away.
Not challenging seemed like a head scratcher at first, but when you notice the giant's players in the way of the camera angle, you realize it would have been a waste of a timeout.
And what about the next play when he was clearly over the line on that one.... And there's cameras in that pylon it would have been nice to at least see a camera angle from that view during the game but there was literally nothing
I don't know what you are talking about.
The other plays were obviously short.
(10-23-2022, 10:44 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-23-2022, 10:38 PM)Jagulars Wrote: [ -> ]Mobsters: Good job, boys. Here. (Hands wads of cash)
Zebras: (stuffing their pockets with a smile)
Exactly
Refs. Oh it was the jags anyways. I dont feel bad.
Yeah, I have to say, we do get hosed by the refs. The key is the timing of the calls. They call against us at the most opportune times, whereas the calls they give us are during garbage time when it does not matter. I would be really interested to see a true statistical analysis of this, because it’s fans, we all feel this is true. However, I wonder how many fans of other teams feel the same lol.
(10-27-2022, 07:46 AM)Newton Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, I have to say, we do get hosed by the refs. The key is the timing of the calls. They call against us at the most opportune times, whereas the calls they give us are during garbage time when it does not matter. I would be really interested to see a true statistical analysis of this, because it’s fans, we all feel this is true. However, I wonder how many fans of other teams feel the same lol.
How many illegal contact penalties did the Gints have in our 1 minute drill?
Those calls saved our bacon a few times, including the messy pick that TLaw threw.
Might be a bit of confirmation bias going on here.
(10-27-2022, 08:24 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (10-27-2022, 07:46 AM)Newton Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, I have to say, we do get hosed by the refs. The key is the timing of the calls. They call against us at the most opportune times, whereas the calls they give us are during garbage time when it does not matter. I would be really interested to see a true statistical analysis of this, because it’s fans, we all feel this is true. However, I wonder how many fans of other teams feel the same lol.
How many illegal contact penalties did the Gints have in our 1 minute drill?
Those calls saved our bacon a few times, including the messy pick that TLaw threw.
Might be a bit of confirmation bias going on here.
The Jags had something like 13 penalties in the game, the Giants had many fewer. The funny part is if you look at the Giants Reddit they thought the refs were [BLEEP] them over, too.
I think Giants had one holding/illegal contact on the last drive, but really they should have been called for them through the whole game.
I think part of the problem is inherent to the modern football itself. There are too many rules, and too many penalties happening on every single play. This makes the enforcement of penalties seem quite arbitrary. Attempting to eliminate rules and simplify them would be the best way in my mind to improve officiating.
There is a theory that bad calls equal out over the course of a season. This may be true but in the course of a particular game, this can influence an outcome in one direction or the other. Also to keep in mind is that less media friendly teams tend to end up with the bottom of the barrel officiating crews, it's just the nature of it. If the team gets better, they'll be on national TV more often and get better crews. At least, that's the theory, lol.
(10-27-2022, 08:57 AM)SeldomRite Wrote: [ -> ] (10-27-2022, 08:24 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]How many illegal contact penalties did the Gints have in our 1 minute drill?
Those calls saved our bacon a few times, including the messy pick that TLaw threw.
Might be a bit of confirmation bias going on here.
The Jags had something like 13 penalties in the game, the Giants had many fewer. The funny part is if you look at the Giants Reddit they thought the refs were [BLEEP] them over, too.
I think Giants had one holding/illegal contact on the last drive, but really they should have been called for them through the whole game.
They had back to back Def. Holding/Illegal use of Hands, and then later a 15-yd roughing call on our 4th down conversion.
(10-25-2022, 06:18 AM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ] (10-24-2022, 09:43 AM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]And what about the next play when he was clearly over the line on that one.... And there's cameras in that pylon it would have been nice to at least see a camera angle from that view during the game but there was literally nothing
I don't know what you are talking about.
The other plays were obviously short.
If you don't know what I'm talking about go rewatch the game... The first one is clearly a first down and so is the second one... I Stopped and round it multiple times.... And what are you talking about obviously short Trevor's was but the two plays before were not obviously short
Haven’t read the whole thread, but this game (with zero implications) trumps the 2017 AFC championship game (Myles Jack wasn’t down).
Non calls, bs calls. The whole way through came across as a fix.
(10-27-2022, 07:54 PM)Jags Wrote: [ -> ]Haven’t read the whole thread, but this game (with zero implications) trumps the 2017 AFC championship game (Myles Jack wasn’t down).
Non calls, bs calls. The whole way through came across as a fix.
Pretty damn close
