(11-29-2022, 03:52 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]I am drinking a bottomless curved horn of honeyed teal colored ale my friends. I don't give a [BLEEP].
Jaguars have their biggest win on the road since L.A this year. We score a TD on defense and special teams. Travon Walker forces a fumble for a TD. Agnew breaks a punt return late.
Jaguars - 42
Loins (Sorry D6) - 17
Caldrac, after watching the Jaguars comeback thrilling win over the Ravens, I certainly understand and respect your enthusiasm for the Jaguars.
As differential as Jamal Agnew is on Special Teams Returns, other than Trevor Lawrence, Agnew is the player on the Jags Offense that concerns me as a Lions fan the most in the upcoming game between the teams. Especially, if Agnew is matched up against Will Harris, who has become the Lions primary slot CB. Harris is the type of player who can play every position in the Secondary but ideally is providing depth. Bills slot WR Isaiah McKenzie had an impactful game against Harris in the Thanksgiving Day game.
It will be interesting to see if the Jags coaches give Agnew more Offensive snaps against his former team. At the very least, I expect the Jet Sweep look on multitude plays by Agnew and /or by one or more of the Jags other skill players on Offense. The Lions # 1 problem on Defense this season has been with contain against QBs that have the ability to impact the game with their legs. The Lions Defense against more conventional running plays has been decent.
(11-30-2022, 04:47 PM)D6 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2022, 03:52 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]I am drinking a bottomless curved horn of honeyed teal colored ale my friends. I don't give a [BLEEP].
Jaguars have their biggest win on the road since L.A this year. We score a TD on defense and special teams. Travon Walker forces a fumble for a TD. Agnew breaks a punt return late.
Jaguars - 42
Loins (Sorry D6) - 17
Caldrac, after watching the Jaguars comeback thrilling win over the Ravens, I certainly understand and respect your enthusiasm for the Jaguars.
As differential as Jamal Agnew is on Special Teams Returns, other than Trevor Lawrence, Agnew is the player on the Jags Offense that concerns me as a Lions fan the most in the upcoming game between the teams. Especially, if Agnew is matched up against Will Harris, who has become the Lions primary slot CB. Harris is the type of player who can play every position in the Secondary but ideally is providing depth. Bills slot WR Isaiah McKenzie had an impactful game against Harris in the Thanksgiving Day game.
It will be interesting to see if the Jags coaches give Agnew more Offensive snaps against his former team. At the very least, I expect the Jet Sweep look on multitude plays by Agnew and /or by one or more of the Jags other skill players on Offense. The Lions # 1 problem on Defense this season has been with contain against QBs that have the ability to impact the game with their legs. The Lions Defense against more conventional running plays has been decent.
In reality I think it will be a pretty fun shoot out and come down to the wire. Either way one of us will be a Cardiac Cat this Sunday. Offensively you all are pretty stacked. I think Swift and Williams make up a formidable backfield. St. Brown is a solid receiver.
I really think Kalif Raymond is a concern against our secondary though. He's the guy I am worried about if we're not getting around Goff. I could see him snagging a few critical 3rd down conversions and even take the top off our defense if the ground game gets going against us early.
Goff and Lawrence look identical on the stat sheet. Will come down to who protects the football and field position. Should be fun man. Hope to see you in the gameday thread!
I do understand some of the critiques the defense gets, but holy cow some of you blow it out of perportion by a mile and a half. If they can hold Lamar Jackson in check, Jared Goff will be cake.
I want to see much more 4-3 looks this game. I think our LBs are better suited in a 4-3 and I think Allen and Walker are better with their hand in the dirt. I know they really wanted 3-4 and we gave it a shot but 4-3 should be our base imo and I'm even good with the 3-4 / 4-3 hybrid like this past week.
If Campbell can shut out Brown I think we win
(11-30-2022, 10:53 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (11-30-2022, 10:48 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Very possible, I have to see how we lose. Hopefully not though.
How do you feel about Tyree Wilson?
Wait so now how the Jags lose matters? I thought it was only about wins and losses.....
oh wow well played
(11-30-2022, 04:28 PM)D6 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-30-2022, 09:36 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]This game will be the test to see if we are becoming a good team or if last week was a fluke. We beat the Dolphins and Bills last year, we always beat a team or 2 we shouldn't. If your a good team you should beat the teams you're better than. Our dline vs their oline will be crucial and they have one of the best olines in the league. Can they step up?
I strongly agree that the Lions O-Line vs. the Jaguars D-Line is a unit matchup that's going to go a long way in determining the outcome of the game.
The Lions injury situation on the Offensive Line is uncertain.
IMHO, the # 1 reason the Lions ended up losing to the Bills on Thanksgiving Day game was the matchups of the Bills DTs vs. the Lions Guards. Jonah Jackson, who was voted as a Pro Bowl alternate last year (in his 2nd NFL season on a losing team), was out vs. the Bills with a concussion. Evan Brown, who is arguably the best backup Center in the NFL, has been starting at RG out of necessity because of injuries to the top two options. Brown missed the Bills game with an ankle injury he suffered in the road win at the Giants. Brown apparently didn't practice today. The Lions were overmatched at Guard against the Bills to the extent that DT Ed Oliver was the AFC Defensive player of the week. At least two other Bills DTs impacted the game. Having Jackson back would be huge for the Lions. But the RG situation, coupled with the uncertainty with Penei Sewell (who finished the Bills game), are major concerns on this end.
For the Lions Offense to be effective for most of a game, it's essential for the other team to respect the Lions Running Game. Jared Goff and the Lions overall Offense is much more effective and efficient off Play Action passes than on drop back passing plays. That much more when the Lions Offensive Line is without one or more starters. After seeing the impact that Jags DT DaVon Hamilton had against the Ravens, I'm definitely concerned if the Lions will be able to sustain the threat of a running game.
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Just gonna reply and thank you for detailed, insightful preview. Hope after this weekend the Loins give you many reasons to cheer
First of all the jags are not blowing anyone out. Jags are still kittens,yes they won a exciteing game vs ravans still haven't had a 3 game winning streak. the lions are not the same kittens they once were,they had a 3 game win streak which was ended by a good team like the bills,when jags had won 2 in a row they lost to the winless Texans in Jacksonville. The lions have growen into what a person would call mid-range cat age. our jags are still kittens. I'm not saying Jags can't beat the lions,just no game will be a cakewalk.
who ever wins this game it will be a final score of something like 17-14 or 23-20.
Lions fans are out here talking about how much better they are than us because they beat the Giants/Commanders lol.. They might be worse than Eagles fans which is insane because the Eagles at least were undefeated when we played them.. lmao
(11-30-2022, 04:47 PM)D6 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2022, 03:52 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]I am drinking a bottomless curved horn of honeyed teal colored ale my friends. I don't give a [BLEEP].
Jaguars have their biggest win on the road since L.A this year. We score a TD on defense and special teams. Travon Walker forces a fumble for a TD. Agnew breaks a punt return late.
Jaguars - 42
Loins (Sorry D6) - 17
Caldrac, after watching the Jaguars comeback thrilling win over the Ravens, I certainly understand and respect your enthusiasm for the Jaguars.
As differential as Jamal Agnew is on Special Teams Returns, other than Trevor Lawrence, Agnew is the player on the Jags Offense that concerns me as a Lions fan the most in the upcoming game between the teams. Especially, if Agnew is matched up against Will Harris, who has become the Lions primary slot CB. Harris is the type of player who can play every position in the Secondary but ideally is providing depth. Bills slot WR Isaiah McKenzie had an impactful game against Harris in the Thanksgiving Day game.
It will be interesting to see if the Jags coaches give Agnew more Offensive snaps against his former team. At the very least, I expect the Jet Sweep look on multitude plays by Agnew and /or by one or more of the Jags other skill players on Offense. The Lions # 1 problem on Defense this season has been with contain against QBs that have the ability to impact the game with their legs. The Lions Defense against more conventional running plays has been decent.
Caldrec it was Wingard that forced a fumble againest ravans which lead to a td by jags offensse.
(11-30-2022, 07:27 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]I do understand some of the critiques the defense gets, but holy cow some of you blow it out of perportion by a mile and a half. If they can hold Lamar Jackson in check, Jared Goff will be cake.
TIL, 340 combined yards is holding a player "in check."
(12-01-2022, 09:21 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (11-30-2022, 07:27 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]I do understand some of the critiques the defense gets, but holy cow some of you blow it out of perportion by a mile and a half. If they can hold Lamar Jackson in check, Jared Goff will be cake.
TIL, 340 combined yards is holding a player "in check."
1 total TD from Lamar. Held them to FGs all day. This is an elite QB former MVP who reaks havoc on most teams, so yeah i'd say to his standard we held him back.
Cat Bro on Cat Bro violence should be illegal.
I'd love to be confident about this game. But, you know. #Jaguars.
Honestly, if Trevor Lawrence plays like he has in the last 3 games, and the WRs catch the meaningful balls (I'm looking at you Mr. Kirk against KC after the onsides kick). Then I think we have a really good chance.
We need Trevor Lawrence to show up.
I have confidence that our D will keep us in this game. They may give up a TD here or there, but we need Lawrence to steady the ship.
Oh Captain, my Captain! Lead us past the rocky shores of 3 and out,
instead find the calm seas of the Red Zone TD.
(12-01-2022, 09:18 AM)snowwolf776 Wrote: [ -> ]First of all the jags are not blowing anyone out. Jags are still kittens,yes they won a exciteing game vs ravans still haven't had a 3 game winning streak. the lions are not the same kittens they once were,they had a 3 game win streak which was ended by a good team like the bills,when jags had won 2 in a row they lost to the winless Texans in Jacksonville. The lions have growen into what a person would call mid-range ct age. our jags are still kittens. I'm not saying Jags can't beat the lions,just no game will be a cakewalk.
who ever wins this game it will be a final score of something like 17-14 or 23-20.
First of all, Jags have already blown
two teams out.
Lions may be the only team in the NFL in which no single person on this planet earth hates.
(12-01-2022, 12:36 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...i7E5YN82sg
Hope Lloyd can turn it around but not a good sign for a guy the Jags traded up for.
Egh, Lloyd was so good early on, I have zero doubts he'll be fine. Probably just feeling a little overwhelmed at this point and thinking he has to do too much every play.
(12-01-2022, 11:10 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Lions may be the only team in the NFL in which no single person on this planet earth hates.
Amazing what happens when you're bad for so long. I've never met anyone who actually hates the Jags either. Even Titans fans don't hate us at this point.
(12-01-2022, 12:36 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...i7E5YN82sg
Hope Lloyd can turn it around but not a good sign for a guy the Jags traded up for.
They may need try him out on the outside. He was touted as a weakside linebacker to begin with coming out of Utah. Hopefully they don't dick up his development like they did Myles Jack.
Would rather find out now that he's not the inside backer we need instead of moving him around too much.
Muma was a natural inside backer at Wyoming. Not surprising he's finding himself in the starting line up with success. Lloyd should be on the outside and covering man to man on one side of the field or in zone and they need to pin his ears back on 3rd and long.
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(12-01-2022, 09:18 AM)snowwolf776 Wrote: [ -> ]First of all the jags are not blowing anyone out. Jags are still kittens,yes they won a exciteing game vs ravans still haven't had a 3 game winning streak. the lions are not the same kittens they once were,they had a 3 game win streak which was ended by a good team like the bills,when jags had won 2 in a row they lost to the winless Texans in Jacksonville. The lions have growen into what a person would call mid-range ct age. our jags are still kittens. I'm not saying Jags can't beat the lions,just no game will be a cakewalk.
who ever wins this game it will be a final score of something like 17-14 or 23-20.
As long as u keep up with the salmon and corn I'm sure we will win wolfie mate
If we make playoffs wolfie must wear a cowboys or texans jersey , :]
(11-30-2022, 05:25 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (11-30-2022, 04:47 PM)D6 Wrote: [ -> ]Caldrac, after watching the Jaguars comeback thrilling win over the Ravens, I certainly understand and respect your enthusiasm for the Jaguars.
As differential as Jamal Agnew is on Special Teams Returns, other than Trevor Lawrence, Agnew is the player on the Jags Offense that concerns me as a Lions fan the most in the upcoming game between the teams. Especially, if Agnew is matched up against Will Harris, who has become the Lions primary slot CB. Harris is the type of player who can play every position in the Secondary but ideally is providing depth. Bills slot WR Isaiah McKenzie had an impactful game against Harris in the Thanksgiving Day game.
It will be interesting to see if the Jags coaches give Agnew more Offensive snaps against his former team. At the very least, I expect the Jet Sweep look on multitude plays by Agnew and /or by one or more of the Jags other skill players on Offense. The Lions # 1 problem on Defense this season has been with contain against QBs that have the ability to impact the game with their legs. The Lions Defense against more conventional running plays has been decent.
In reality I think it will be a pretty fun shoot out and come down to the wire. Either way one of us will be a Cardiac Cat this Sunday. Offensively you all are pretty stacked. I think Swift and Williams make up a formidable backfield. St. Brown is a solid receiver.
I really think Kalif Raymond is a concern against our secondary though. He's the guy I am worried about if we're not getting around Goff. I could see him snagging a few critical 3rd down conversions and even take the top off our defense if the ground game gets going against us early.
Goff and Lawrence look identical on the stat sheet. Will come down to who protects the football and field position. Should be fun man. Hope to see you in the gameday thread!
The Lions RB ( Halfback) rotation has become a trio, with former LA Chargers RB Justin Jackson being a substantial factor as well. D'Andre Swift missed several games with ankle and shoulder injuries. While Swift has still been a differential receiver since the early season injuries, he has yet to regain the dynamic rushing skills he displayed in the season opener against the Eagles.
With injuries being a primary theme at WR for the Lions this season, Kalif Raymond has been a major part of the Lions being in position to win in the vast majority of games. The usually under the radar Raymond is way undersized by NFL standards but has more than held his own as a blocker. With Amon-Ra St. Brown being the primary WR focal point by opposing Defenses against the Lions, opportunities have opened up for Raymond. Regardless of how many snaps former Jags WR D.J. Chark (who has been greatly setback with an ankle injury related to his season ending injury at Cincinnati last season) and Josh Reynolds get against the Jags, I believe Raymond will continue to get opportunities on Offense.
Amon-Ra St. Brown reminds me to a large extent of former UGA and Steelers WR Hines Ward. The passion and dedication of St. Brown is off the charts.
Trevor Lawrence has made enormous strides. His poise and leadership, on what became the Jags winning drive against the Ravens, was evident. Adversity is highly likely in an NFL game. How one responds to adversity is critical. Lawrence put the fumbles behind him, with clutch play and skill level reminded practically everyone watching the game why Lawrence was the clear # 1 selection in the 2021 Draft. With more experience, I believe Lawrence will get rid of the ball on the type of plays that he fumbled on against the Ravens.
(12-01-2022, 09:13 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (11-30-2022, 10:53 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Wait so now how the Jags lose matters? I thought it was only about wins and losses.....
oh wow well played
(11-30-2022, 04:28 PM)D6 Wrote: [ -> ] I strongly agree that the Lions O-Line vs. the Jaguars D-Line is a unit matchup that's going to go a long way in determining the outcome of the game.
The Lions injury situation on the Offensive Line is uncertain.
IMHO, the # 1 reason the Lions ended up losing to the Bills on Thanksgiving Day game was the matchups of the Bills DTs vs. the Lions Guards. Jonah Jackson, who was voted as a Pro Bowl alternate last year (in his 2nd NFL season on a losing team), was out vs. the Bills with a concussion. Evan Brown, who is arguably the best backup Center in the NFL, has been starting at RG out of necessity because of injuries to the top two options. Brown missed the Bills game with an ankle injury he suffered in the road win at the Giants. Brown apparently didn't practice today. The Lions were overmatched at Guard against the Bills to the extent that DT Ed Oliver was the AFC Defensive player of the week. At least two other Bills DTs impacted the game. Having Jackson back would be huge for the Lions. But the RG situation, coupled with the uncertainty with Penei Sewell (who finished the Bills game), are major concerns on this end.
For the Lions Offense to be effective for most of a game, it's essential for the other team to respect the Lions Running Game. Jared Goff and the Lions overall Offense is much more effective and efficient off Play Action passes than on drop back passing plays. That much more when the Lions Offensive Line is without one or more starters. After seeing the impact that Jags DT DaVon Hamilton had against the Ravens, I'm definitely concerned if the Lions will be able to sustain the threat of a running game.
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Just gonna reply and thank you for detailed, insightful preview. Hope after this weekend the Loins give you many reasons to cheer
You are very welcome!
Hopefully, both teams won't suffer any significant injuries during the game.
I think this game is going to be a combination of a physical game and a chess match. Both Jags HC Doug Pederson and Lions OC Ben Johnson are innovative coaches. Defensive Coordinators Aaron Glenn and Mike Caldwell have to be on top of their respective games as DCs.