(12-14-2022, 11:55 AM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ] (12-14-2022, 11:34 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Are you for real?
Why does it matter that he had 2 yards in the 2nd half? That doesn't mean it's a fact that the fumble lead to him having 2 yards. That's not a direct correlation.
OK.
Sorry... I just thought that cause and effect results would mean something to you.
But you're right, there are tons of plays that make up a game.
I just think Shaq Q's is up there in terms of changing the game.
Especially when you realize that Henry was killing us right up untill the fumble and then we scored 14 points before the tacks got the ball back...
But I guess it's true that one cannot fully admit that any variable from one point in time to another can be a result of another based on the quantum mechanics of a split second in time.
Either way, it was a great game! And, to me, I think it was Shaq's hit that changed the entire game... (I mean, Henry disappeared after that hit. But whatever)
Henry disappeared before that.
For the second Q, they ran 10 plays. Henry's input:
not targeted
not targeted
run for no gain
not targeted (INT)
not targeted
not targeted
not targeted (PUNT)
run 2
run 21
catch 16 (FUM)
why did they stop giving him the workload? Afraid that he'd fade before the second half even started? They were trying to force the pass against us, and it bit them in the rear.
(12-14-2022, 01:08 PM)NewJagsCity Wrote: [ -> ]Quarterman gets a game ball for balling out and de-balling Henry.
There. Is that how this works?
LOL, That's what I'm talking about!!!!!!
What a great game!
Oluokon is still a tackling machine. Didn't realize he was leading the league in tackles
(12-14-2022, 08:44 PM)Hurricane Wrote: [ -> ]Oluokon is still a tackling machine. Didn't realize he was leading the league in tackles
Best FA pickup in awhile. Since Calais I'd say
(12-13-2022, 04:43 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (12-13-2022, 03:20 PM)scottyg Wrote: [ -> ]I agree with you for the most part on Shaq. Dewey gets my game ball - He set the tone at the start of the game that led to that hit and fumble recovery.
However, saying Tennessee "had to pass" is one thing I disagree with. If there is one team in this league that sticks with their running game in spite of the score, it's Tenn. In fact, didn't they have something like a 20 point come from behind victory earlier this year by mostly running the ball with Henry? What was even better about it was tacks fans booing their own team for trying to stick to that formula. We've been on the wrong side of too many curb-stompings by those bastages over the years, and as carp said it, and as I told my wife yesterday afternoon, "It was glorious!."
It was glorious indeed.
My point on the run vs pass is this:
After the fumble by Henry the Jags scored a TD on a 5 play drive and left only 10 sec on the clock before half . Jags are up 20-14
Jags get the ball to start the 2nd half with a 14 play and 7 minute consuming touchdown drive.
Now it's 27-14 and the tacks have to score and they know it. Most teams don't sprinkle in much run in that scenario.
However - to your credit and to the credit of carp8dm -the tacks did try to run Henry twice at this juncture and he was stuffed on two consecutive attempts for 1 yard each.
Now - were those stops due to the hit Shaq Quarterman put on him 40 minutes ago ( 8 minutes of game clock + halftime) ??
I really don't think so. Maybe we could ask Roy Robertson Harris who made good plays on both tackles of the kid from Yulee.
After the ensuing punt, it was indeed too late to run the ball and the Jags added on FG points.
Could I be wrong? Could Shaq's hit have soured Henry's resolve to perform? Could it have altered the resolve of our own defense in a motivational way that sparked them to limit the tacks in the second half of the game?
Maybe. It's possible. I just don't think that's what happened.
I think the kid came off the bench, and despite nearly falling down twice, managed to put a nice lick on the ball carrier and force a fumble. And that was that.
Just circling on this old thread back to eat some crow here.
I downplayed the impact of Shaq's hit in this thread and at least one Jaguars player feels quite the opposite about it.
To those I disparaged on the matter - I offer my fumble apologies.
https://jaguarswire.usatoday.com/2023/02...ce=twitter