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(12-25-2022, 01:42 PM)Newton Wrote: [ -> ]Is griffin back on the active roster ?

Still on IR

Jag88 is just confused about why he ended up there and how terribly he sucks at playing CB in the NFL
(12-25-2022, 01:30 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-25-2022, 01:25 PM)Jag88 Wrote: [ -> ]I still don't understand griffin. Did he sleep with a coaches wife or something? I know he has to be good enough to be a 4th cb lol is he still hurt?

Griffin sucked in 2021 and sucked worse in 2022.

You don't know he has to be good enough to be on the depth chart, you just want it to be so. 

He is a liability that will likely be out of the league soon.

Just want to point out that many "impatient knee jerkers" were calling for Jenkin's head last year too...

Jenkins came back and proved he was a man and could take the heat.

Most of us Jaguars fans that support the team, had a feeling Jenkins was gonna have a great season in 2022 very early on....

(See how that works?)



By the way, I do this all in love!

WE all have concerns about players at certain times.  It's part of Fandom.  But honestly, I always like Jenkins and even Cisco, last year.  You could tell that Urban was killing a lot of players that just didn't want to play for such a piece of [BLEEP] and an organization that would support such a piece of [BLEEP].

Converserly, Shaq Griffin is just a wimp that couldn't handle the heat...  He was a cancer then in 2021 and he was a cancer at the beginning of 2022.  It was smart to IR him early and get him the hell out of the way.
(12-25-2022, 02:11 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-25-2022, 01:30 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Griffin sucked in 2021 and sucked worse in 2022.

You don't know he has to be good enough to be on the depth chart, you just want it to be so. 

He is a liability that will likely be out of the league soon.

Just want to point out that many "impatient knee jerkers" were calling for Jenkin's head last year too...

Jenkins came back and proved he was a man and could take the heat.

Most of us Jaguars fans that support the team, had a feeling Jenkins was gonna have a great season in 2022 very early on....

(See how that works?)

By the way, I do this all in love!

WE all have concerns about players at certain times.  It's part of Fandom.  But honestly, I always like Jenkins and even Cisco, last year.  You could tell that Urban was killing a lot of players that just didn't want to play for such a piece of [BLEEP] and an organization that would support such a piece of [BLEEP].

Converserly, Shaq Griffin is just a wimp that couldn't handle the heat...  He was a cancer then in 2021 and he was a cancer at the beginning of 2022.  It was smart to IR him early and get him the hell out of the way.


Merry Christmas, my friend, but I'm afraid this is inaccurate. 

Jenkins stills sucks in coverage badly and that was why he was getting roasted last year. 
(he still misses some key tackles too, but I won't bother breaking that down till post season)

He hasn't done much to turn things around - but rather has a competent co0aching staff that plays him more wisely in a better scheme and better weekly game plans. 

Jenkins literally said it himself when asked the biggest difference between his play last year and this year. 

"Coaching." 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/rayshawn-...17684.html

Also - Shaq Griffin was loved in the locker room and in the press. He was a team first guy and not a cancer.

He's just a really bad corner back.
(12-25-2022, 02:18 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-25-2022, 02:11 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Just want to point out that many "impatient knee jerkers" were calling for Jenkin's head last year too...

Jenkins came back and proved he was a man and could take the heat.

Most of us Jaguars fans that support the team, had a feeling Jenkins was gonna have a great season in 2022 very early on....

(See how that works?)

By the way, I do this all in love!

WE all have concerns about players at certain times.  It's part of Fandom.  But honestly, I always like Jenkins and even Cisco, last year.  You could tell that Urban was killing a lot of players that just didn't want to play for such a piece of [BLEEP] and an organization that would support such a piece of [BLEEP].

Converserly, Shaq Griffin is just a wimp that couldn't handle the heat...  He was a cancer then in 2021 and he was a cancer at the beginning of 2022.  It was smart to IR him early and get him the hell out of the way.


Merry Christmas, my friend, but I'm afraid this is inaccurate. 

Jenkins stills sucks in coverage badly and that was why he was getting roasted last year. 
(he still misses some key tackles too, but I won't bother breaking that down till post season)

He hasn't done much to turn things around - but rather has a competent co0aching staff that plays him more wisely in a better scheme and better weekly game plans. 

Jenkins literally said it himself when asked the biggest difference between his play last year and this year. 

"Coaching." 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/rayshawn-...17684.html

Also - Shaq Griffin was loved in the locker room and in the press. He was a team first guy and not a cancer.

He's just a really bad corner back.

But don't you think that Jenkins is more Troy Palamalu than he is Ronnie Lott?

I think Jenkins is best near the line of scrimmage, let him disrupt [BLEEP] and then find his way to the ball.  I think he's got a future here...  

https://media.tenor.com/K_ZimoMTNq0AAAAC...a-wink.gif

(Edit, I'm still trying to figure out how to get these gifs to embedd into the post.)

But seriously, I think Jenkins is a great free safety on 1st and 2nd downs. Yeah, he may be a problem on passing downs, but only if you have him on a single coverate or a deep 2 zone shell where he has to cover half the field...

Jenkins has proven he's hard nosed. I think he's worthy of keeping for next year and maybe 2024 as well.
(12-24-2022, 03:03 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-24-2022, 02:59 PM)TownCenterJag Wrote: [ -> ]I’m a season ticket holder and a huge Jags homer. I am not sure if my fandom could have survived Urban + Zach Wilson coming through this franchise.

Gawd, can you imagine the havoc now after a season of Meyer and then the following season enduring Wilson spiral into the ground? That would be such classic Jaguars luck.

Then again, would Doug be able to get more out of Wilson than what we’re seeing now?

(12-25-2022, 02:26 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ][quote="NYC4jags" pid="1518811" dateline="1671992316"]



Jenkins literally said it himself when asked the biggest difference between his play last year and this year. 

"Coaching." 

I think this is the point...

Jenkins finally got to play his natural position under Pederson.

Griffen was given the same chance!! And instead he let his wife go off, and then he also started talking smack... And decided he had a "back injury".

Naw, I take a guy like Jenkins. He was given the chance to finally play fast because he was playing his natural position.

Similar to Cisco!!! Dude, last year many of us were really pissed off that Cisco was being benched by Meyer. And look at him now. Cisco is Shining and so is Jenkins. Keep those guys. Give them another year under Caldwell's system and let's see what happens.
(12-25-2022, 02:26 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-25-2022, 02:18 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Merry Christmas, my friend, but I'm afraid this is inaccurate. 

Jenkins stills sucks in coverage badly and that was why he was getting roasted last year. 
(he still misses some key tackles too, but I won't bother breaking that down till post season)

He hasn't done much to turn things around - but rather has a competent co0aching staff that plays him more wisely in a better scheme and better weekly game plans. 

Jenkins literally said it himself when asked the biggest difference between his play last year and this year. 

"Coaching." 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/rayshawn-...17684.html

Also - Shaq Griffin was loved in the locker room and in the press. He was a team first guy and not a cancer.

He's just a really bad corner back.

But don't you think that Jenkins is more Troy Palamalu than he is Ronnie Lott?

I think Jenkins is best near the line of scrimmage, let him disrupt [BLEEP] and then find his way to the ball.  I think he's got a future here...  

https://media.tenor.com/K_ZimoMTNq0AAAAC...a-wink.gif

(Edit, I'm still trying to figure out how to get these gifs to embedd into the post.)

But seriously, I think Jenkins is a great free safety on 1st and 2nd downs.  Yeah, he may be a problem on passing downs, but only if you have him on a single coverate or a deep 2 zone shell where he has to cover half the field...

Jenkins has proven he's hard nosed.  I think he's worthy of keeping for next year and maybe 2024 as well.

(12-25-2022, 02:33 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]homebiscuit
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(12-25-2022, 02:26 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-25-2022, 02:18 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Jenkins literally said it himself when asked the biggest difference between his play last year and this year. 

"Coaching." 

I think this is the point...

Jenkins finally got to play his natural position under Pederson.

Griffen was given the same chance!!  And instead he let his wife go off, and then he also started talking smack...  And decided he had a "back injury". 

Naw, I take a guy like Jenkins.  He was given the chance to finally play fast because he was playing his natural position. 

Similar to Cisco!!!  Dude, last year many of us were really pissed off that Cisco was being benched by Meyer.  And look at him now.  Cisco is Shining and so is Jenkins.  Keep those guys.  Give them another year under Caldwell's system and let's see what happens.


A few things here:

JENKINS is a decent box strong safety who struggles badly when required to cover. 
Last year he was also a decent strong Saftey who struggled when asked to cover. 
This year's staff is just smarter about mitigating the coverage calls so he isn't required to man up on a TE or WR as often.
He's not playing a different or "natural" position. 
 He played SS last year and plays there this year too. 

Cisco is a very talented player that PFF ranks 18th on there NFL safety rankings after week 16.
If my count is accurate JENKINS is ranked 68 out of 64 starting safeties. 

Maybe someone with a PFF subscription can double check that. Seems a bit low. I'd have put him around 50th.

You see, a ratings system like PFF (flawed as they may be) looks at every single snap. 
And while fans can allow their perspective to be easily altered by a few big plays, all those bad snaps still exist and factor into the rating and ranking on a site like that one.
And unfortunately, Jenkins has whiffed on tackles that resulted in big gains many times, and he has been burned badly by TEs and receivers when he had to cover them downfield and not just near the LOS. 
All of those bad plays add up. 
He has allowed a 73% completion rate this year - and in 5 different games this year he allowed a 100% comp rate.
Like I keep saying - Gotta take the good with the bad.

note edits above

was X-Mas multi tasking LOL
(12-25-2022, 02:47 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-25-2022, 02:26 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]But don't you think that Jenkins is more Troy Palamalu than he is Ronnie Lott?

I think Jenkins is best near the line of scrimmage, let him disrupt [BLEEP] and then find his way to the ball.  I think he's got a future here...  

https://media.tenor.com/K_ZimoMTNq0AAAAC...a-wink.gif

(Edit, I'm still trying to figure out how to get these gifs to embedd into the post.)

But seriously, I think Jenkins is a great free safety on 1st and 2nd downs.  Yeah, he may be a problem on passing downs, but only if you have him on a single coverate or a deep 2 zone shell where he has to cover half the field...

Jenkins has proven he's hard nosed.  I think he's worthy of keeping for next year and maybe 2024 as well.

(12-25-2022, 02:33 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]homebiscuit
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A few things here:

JENKINS is a decent box strong safety who struggles badly when required to cover. 
Last year he was also a decent strong Saftey who struggled when asked to cover. 
This year's staff is just smarter about mitigating the coverage calls so he isn't required to man up on a TE or WR as often.
He's not playing a different or "natural" position. 
 He played SS last year and plays there this year too. 

Cisco is a very talented player that PFF ranks 18th on there NFL safety rankings after week 16.
If my count is accurate JENKINS is ranked 68 out of 64 starting safeties. 

Maybe someone with a PFF subscription can double check that. Seems a bit low. I'd have put him around 50th.

You see, a ratings system like PFF (flawed as they may be) looks at every single snap. 
And while fans can allow their perspective to be easily altered by a few big plays, all those bad snaps still exist and factor into the rating and ranking on a site like that one.
And unfortunately, Jenkins has whiffed on tackles that resulted in big gains many times, and he has been burned badly by TEs and receivers when he had to cover them downfield and not just near the LOS. 
All of those bad plays add up. 
He has allowed a 73% completion rate this year - and in 5 different games this year he allowed a 100% comp rate.
Like I keep saying - Gotta take the good with the bad.

note edits above

was X-Mas multi tasking  LOL

I think we probably have pretty similar assessments of Jenkins...  I mean, at the end of the day, here's the real question about him...

Would you release Jenkins in 2023, or would you keep him for next season?

Do I think Jenkins is a pro-bowler?  Not right now.  I have hopes he can be one, and I think you would disagree.  

But that's not really the point here.  I think Jenkins is worthy of keeping, even at his relatively high price tag.  Would you rather let him go and try to either draft his replacement (huge gamble) or find a cheaper free agent with the money saved by releasing him?
(12-25-2022, 03:09 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-25-2022, 02:47 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]A few things here:

JENKINS is a decent box strong safety who struggles badly when required to cover. 
Last year he was also a decent strong Saftey who struggled when asked to cover. 
This year's staff is just smarter about mitigating the coverage calls so he isn't required to man up on a TE or WR as often.
He's not playing a different or "natural" position. 
 He played SS last year and plays there this year too. 

Cisco is a very talented player that PFF ranks 18th on there NFL safety rankings after week 16.
If my count is accurate JENKINS is ranked 68 out of 64 starting safeties. 

Maybe someone with a PFF subscription can double check that. Seems a bit low. I'd have put him around 50th.

You see, a ratings system like PFF (flawed as they may be) looks at every single snap. 
And while fans can allow their perspective to be easily altered by a few big plays, all those bad snaps still exist and factor into the rating and ranking on a site like that one.
And unfortunately, Jenkins has whiffed on tackles that resulted in big gains many times, and he has been burned badly by TEs and receivers when he had to cover them downfield and not just near the LOS. 
All of those bad plays add up. 
He has allowed a 73% completion rate this year - and in 5 different games this year he allowed a 100% comp rate.
Like I keep saying - Gotta take the good with the bad.

note edits above

was X-Mas multi tasking  LOL

I think we probably have pretty similar assessments of Jenkins...  I mean, at the end of the day, here's the real question about him...

Would you release Jenkins in 2023, or would you keep him for next season?

Do I think Jenkins is a pro-bowler?  Not right now.  I have hopes he can be one, and I think you would disagree.  

But that's not really the point here.  I think Jenkins is worthy of keeping, even at his relatively high price tag.  Would you rather let him go and try to either draft his replacement (huge gamble) or find a cheaper free agent with the money saved by releasing him?

We have many positions to upgrade. 
SS is one of them but it is low on the list compared to others that are in worse shape.

Depending on how free agency shakes out and how much cap space we can find elsewhere - I'd keep him and focus on fixing OL, DL, nickel cb, and making sure TE doesn't fall off a cliff with all the free agency losses. 

Jenkins would get another year to hopefully make some more impact players in between his struggles in most scenarios if it were me calling shots. 

If the cap situation turns really dire, I'd cut him,  add a mid round pick, and give Dewey a vet minimum deal as insurance.
(12-25-2022, 03:20 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-25-2022, 03:09 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]I think we probably have pretty similar assessments of Jenkins...  I mean, at the end of the day, here's the real question about him...

Would you release Jenkins in 2023, or would you keep him for next season?

Do I think Jenkins is a pro-bowler?  Not right now.  I have hopes he can be one, and I think you would disagree.  

But that's not really the point here.  I think Jenkins is worthy of keeping, even at his relatively high price tag.  Would you rather let him go and try to either draft his replacement (huge gamble) or find a cheaper free agent with the money saved by releasing him?

We have many positions to upgrade. 
SS is one of them but it is low on the list compared to others that are in worse shape.

Depending on how free agency shakes out and how much cap space we can find elsewhere - I'd keep him and focus on fixing OL, DL, nickel cb, and making sure TE doesn't fall off a cliff with all the free agency losses. 

Jenkins would get another year to hopefully make some more impact players in between his struggles in most scenarios if it were me calling shots. 

If the cap situation turns really dire, I'd cut him,  add a mid round pick, and give Dewey a vet minimum deal as insurance.

OK, well then I think we're of similar minds when it comes to Jenkins.

I think Dewey is kept, he's too valuable and has no market outside Duval.  Cutting Jenkins does open up 6 million to go and get a flier on another SS, but that's a gamble that I personally wouldn't risk.  But your right, there are options there.  Jenkins needs to continue to prove his worth.

Regarding the other needs...  I think we've already invested so much in DL that no further focus can happen this offseason.  TE is secured so long as we pay Engram, which I think is gonna be the priority this offseason.  Williams has done so good as the off CB from Cambell.

For me, I think the key is how are we going to figure out the loss of our O-Line.  Juwaan Taylor is probably gone.  So we plug in Little.  But that means we have Cam Robinson as the other Tackle?  Cam has never really been a good tackle...  We need to draft a real tackle to replace Cam.  And then we need to get another depth guard.  All this should happen in the draft.  

WE spent 2 years drafting D-Line/ILB.  It's time to focus on O-Line this draft.

Our WRs are good, it's not a problem.  Our RBs are good.  Our TEs are OK (Sign Engram).  But the protection for Lawrence is terrible.  It's really bad.  WE have to give him more time and we have to have depth in that protection.  I'd focus on O-Line.
(12-25-2022, 02:47 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-25-2022, 02:26 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]But don't you think that Jenkins is more Troy Palamalu than he is Ronnie Lott?

I think Jenkins is best near the line of scrimmage, let him disrupt [BLEEP] and then find his way to the ball.  I think he's got a future here...  

https://media.tenor.com/K_ZimoMTNq0AAAAC...a-wink.gif

(Edit, I'm still trying to figure out how to get these gifs to embedd into the post.)

But seriously, I think Jenkins is a great free safety on 1st and 2nd downs.  Yeah, he may be a problem on passing downs, but only if you have him on a single coverate or a deep 2 zone shell where he has to cover half the field...

Jenkins has proven he's hard nosed.  I think he's worthy of keeping for next year and maybe 2024 as well.

(12-25-2022, 02:33 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]homebiscuit
...


A few things here:

JENKINS is a decent box strong safety who struggles badly when required to cover. 
Last year he was also a decent strong Saftey who struggled when asked to cover. 
This year's staff is just smarter about mitigating the coverage calls so he isn't required to man up on a TE or WR as often.
He's not playing a different or "natural" position. 
 He played SS last year and plays there this year too. 

Cisco is a very talented player that PFF ranks 18th on there NFL safety rankings after week 16.
If my count is accurate JENKINS is ranked 68 out of 64 starting safeties. 

Maybe someone with a PFF subscription can double check that. Seems a bit low. I'd have put him around 50th.

You see, a ratings system like PFF (flawed as they may be) looks at every single snap. 
And while fans can allow their perspective to be easily altered by a few big plays, all those bad snaps still exist and factor into the rating and ranking on a site like that one.
And unfortunately, Jenkins has whiffed on tackles that resulted in big gains many times, and he has been burned badly by TEs and receivers when he had to cover them downfield and not just near the LOS. 
All of those bad plays add up. 
He has allowed a 73% completion rate this year - and in 5 different games this year he allowed a 100% comp rate.
Like I keep saying - Gotta take the good with the bad.

note edits above

was X-Mas multi tasking  LOL

Something tells me you have absolutely 0 qualifications to rank him at 50, for some reason I find it hard to believe you've sat down and watched and disected that much Safety play to be able to confidently say this guy belongs around 50 LOL. 


That being said tho, I think he sticks around unless they have a plan for a suitable replacement.
If Trevor plays we better not rest a single offensive lineman.
(12-25-2022, 03:46 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-25-2022, 02:47 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]A few things here:

JENKINS is a decent box strong safety who struggles badly when required to cover. 
Last year he was also a decent strong Saftey who struggled when asked to cover. 
This year's staff is just smarter about mitigating the coverage calls so he isn't required to man up on a TE or WR as often.
He's not playing a different or "natural" position. 
 He played SS last year and plays there this year too. 

Cisco is a very talented player that PFF ranks 18th on there NFL safety rankings after week 16.
If my count is accurate JENKINS is ranked 68 out of 64 starting safeties. 

Maybe someone with a PFF subscription can double check that. Seems a bit low. I'd have put him around 50th.

You see, a ratings system like PFF (flawed as they may be) looks at every single snap. 
And while fans can allow their perspective to be easily altered by a few big plays, all those bad snaps still exist and factor into the rating and ranking on a site like that one.
And unfortunately, Jenkins has whiffed on tackles that resulted in big gains many times, and he has been burned badly by TEs and receivers when he had to cover them downfield and not just near the LOS. 
All of those bad plays add up. 
He has allowed a 73% completion rate this year - and in 5 different games this year he allowed a 100% comp rate.
Like I keep saying - Gotta take the good with the bad.

note edits above

was X-Mas multi tasking  LOL

Something tells me you have absolutely 0 qualifications to rank him at 50, for some reason I find it hard to believe you've sat down and watched and disected that much Safety play to be able to confidently say this guy belongs around 50 LOL. 


That being said tho, I think he sticks around unless they have a plan for a suitable replacement.

LOL

Don't attack me or I'll keep posting the receipts on your "qualifications." Thought we'd agreed on this, no? 
I have an archive. 

I made the "50th" comment haphazardly as a way to offset the PFF ranking I found scary bad, and alternately make my point. 
He might be in the 40-50 range. But there are lots of better safeties out there. Jenkins has simply had a little run of big plays that impacted games lately. I'm happy for him. I just know he struggles a lot too. 

Have I analyzed 49 other safeties? No. 
Have I watched Jenkins give up 20 first downs this year? Yes. 

I don't think "qualifications" are required to talk jags football on this forum, but I'm satisfied with mine all the same.
1996 (without the missed FG)
You can add me to the list of people who think we should only sit players with health concerns.  I don't want them rusty after 16 days without playing a game.

I also want the momentum going into the Titans game with having won 4 straight.  If they beat the Titans, they go into the playoffs having won 5 straight.  If they win the home playoff game, they have 6 straight for round two, etc.  Let them play with confidence.

Also, although it doesnt impact the playoff, I just like the idea of the Jaguars finishing the year with a winning record.  I think the fans deserve it.
(12-25-2022, 05:13 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]1996 (without the missed FG)

I feel like I just had deja vu.  Someone check the matrix please.
Unless you're missing a limb, in the concussion protocol or can't go at 100% they shouldn't be resting anybody. We've haven't won anything yet. I know there's a ton of logistics floating around about this scenario and that scenario. They need to keep their momentum up. They need to beat the tinhorns in the same fashion or better like they just did the Jets. [BLEEP] the tinhorns. We need to break even with them this year.
We should play most starters unless someone is hurt but I'd like to see Etienne play less. Maybe let Conner play a bit.

Etienne has already reached 1,000 yards and we should give the other backs more touches.
(12-25-2022, 04:01 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-25-2022, 03:46 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Something tells me you have absolutely 0 qualifications to rank him at 50, for some reason I find it hard to believe you've sat down and watched and disected that much Safety play to be able to confidently say this guy belongs around 50 LOL. 


That being said tho, I think he sticks around unless they have a plan for a suitable replacement.

LOL

Don't attack me or I'll keep posting the receipts on your "qualifications." Thought we'd agreed on this, no? 
I have an archive. 

I made the "50th" comment haphazardly as a way to offset the PFF ranking I found scary bad, and alternately make my point. 
He might be in the 40-50 range. But there are lots of better safeties out there. Jenkins has simply had a little run of big plays that impacted games lately. I'm happy for him. I just know he struggles a lot too. 

Have I analyzed 49 other safeties? No. 
Have I watched Jenkins give up 20 first downs this year? Yes. 

I don't think "qualifications" are required to talk jags football on this forum, but I'm satisfied with mine all the same.

To me it sounds like you are saying hes worse than every starting ss in the league and some backups and while i dont think hes great by any means, hes been really good in a few games and that just seems silly to me.

(12-25-2022, 04:01 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-25-2022, 03:46 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Something tells me you have absolutely 0 qualifications to rank him at 50, for some reason I find it hard to believe you've sat down and watched and disected that much Safety play to be able to confidently say this guy belongs around 50 LOL. 


That being said tho, I think he sticks around unless they have a plan for a suitable replacement.

LOL

Don't attack me or I'll keep posting the receipts on your "qualifications." Thought we'd agreed on this, no? 
I have an archive. 

I made the "50th" comment haphazardly as a way to offset the PFF ranking I found scary bad, and alternately make my point. 
He might be in the 40-50 range. But there are lots of better safeties out there. Jenkins has simply had a little run of big plays that impacted games lately. I'm happy for him. I just know he struggles a lot too. 

Have I analyzed 49 other safeties? No. 
Have I watched Jenkins give up 20 first downs this year? Yes. 

I don't think "qualifications" are required to talk jags football on this forum, but I'm satisfied with mine all the same.

To me it sounds like you are saying hes worse than every starting ss in the league and some backups and while i dont think hes great by any means, hes been really good in a few games and that just seems silly to me.
I think wolfie will be happy if we win vs a texans team that was wonless texans qhen qe lost to dem and now they r one win so they r one win texans
(12-25-2022, 01:44 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-25-2022, 01:42 PM)Newton Wrote: [ -> ]Is griffin back on the active roster ?

Still on IR

Jag88 is just confused about why he ended up there and how terribly he sucks at playing CB in the NFL

I am confused and shocked. This guy was a solid cb seemingly like not very long ago. I'm suprised the jags didnt find a way to trade him.
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