(08-09-2023, 07:55 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (08-08-2023, 01:12 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Hallett is likely taking Claybrooks spot. I see that writing on the wall. They have Hallett doing gunner drills, and Washington doing backup returner stuff- which were the only things saving Claybrooks from being cut.
Wouldn't be surprised if Herndon and/or Thomas stick, mainly because staff may not want 75% of secondary depth to be rookies.
At practice they have TEs broken into groups for drills.
The Engram and Prince group do half as many blocking drills and focus on routes/hands.
The Farrells and Stranges focus more on blocking.
Don't look to Farrell's catch numbers to learn anything about why he sits where he is on the depth chart.
@Don't forget all that guaranteed money we gave him@ .gif "Laughing")
Bottom line, Farrell sucks. Dude can't catch and he's not some type of elite blocker. My guess is that he doesn't even make the roster. He's #1 because Strange is a rookie.
Kind of like adding another QB category and listing CJ Beathard as #1 because he is really good at handing the ball off.
(08-09-2023, 12:25 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2023, 07:55 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]@Don't forget all that guaranteed money we gave him@
Bottom line, Farrell sucks. Dude can't catch and he's not some type of elite blocker. My guess is that he doesn't even make the roster. He's #1 because Strange is a rookie.
Kind of like adding another QB category and listing CJ Beathard as #1 because he is really good at handing the ball off.
He's def nothing special.
I think the coaches like him better than you and I do, though.
Year 2 of knowing the blocking/protection schemes helps his status as well
If he'a pushed off the roster, it's a sign of progress, but best guess is that happens next year.
(08-08-2023, 10:41 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (08-08-2023, 09:25 PM)jagsfan06 Wrote: [ -> ]The lack of depth at NT is concerning.
Fatukasi is also a NT even though he's listed at DE - he plays both
Great catch NYC. We do have 2 very capable players at the position.
(08-08-2023, 09:19 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Good seeing Yasir above Jordan Smith at least on the depth chart. Interesting seeing Antonio Johnson 3 deep at FS.
Has this man even been on the field, I swear I always forget he's here.
(08-09-2023, 12:34 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2023, 12:25 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Bottom line, Farrell sucks. Dude can't catch and he's not some type of elite blocker. My guess is that he doesn't even make the roster. He's #1 because Strange is a rookie.
Kind of like adding another QB category and listing CJ Beathard as #1 because he is really good at handing the ball off.
He's def nothing special.
I think the coaches like him better than you and I do, though.
Year 2 of knowing the blocking/protection schemes helps his status as well
If he'a pushed off the roster, it's a sign of progress, but best guess is that happens next year.
Rookie TE's take AT least half a year to acclimate. I could see him being relegated mid season.
(08-09-2023, 12:25 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2023, 07:55 AM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]@Don't forget all that guaranteed money we gave him@
Bottom line, Farrell sucks. Dude can't catch and he's not some type of elite blocker. My guess is that he doesn't even make the roster. He's #1 because Strange is a rookie.
Kind of like adding another QB category and listing CJ Beathard as #1 because he is really good at handing the ball off.
I mean, OSU is not really known as a TE factory. Everyone but Urbz could see that.
I think Farrell is developing into a contributing average TE in this league. In the 3 practices that I have attended this year, he is getting significant reps and, although not his strong suit, has caught the ball well. Not everyone on a team's roster will compete for a pro-bowl nomination.
(08-09-2023, 09:35 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-09-2023, 12:34 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]He's def nothing special.
I think the coaches like him better than you and I do, though.
Year 2 of knowing the blocking/protection schemes helps his status as well
If he'a pushed off the roster, it's a sign of progress, but best guess is that happens next year.
Rookie TE's take AT least half a year to acclimate. I could see him being relegated mid season.
Yes, depth chart wise, that should happen sooner than later.
I was referring to being pushed off the 53, but I agree he should be the 4th TE at some point in the next 3 months.
(maybe 3 weeks)
Personally - based on the guys we have in camp right now - I'd like to see them stash Reyes on the PS and supplant Farrell with Reyes at the bye if he's ready. His upside blocking and catching is higher IMO.
6'5" - 260# - 4.6 forty time - just a raw player with only a year of NCAA football and a year on an NFL PS.
Played one game for the commanders that included this block, LOL.
https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status...31336?s=20
https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status...31336?s=20
(08-10-2023, 08:24 AM)ATLjag Wrote: [ -> ]I think Farrell is developing into a contributing average TE in this league. In the 3 practices that I have attended this year, he is getting significant reps and, although not his strong suit, has caught the ball well. Not everyone on a team's roster will compete for a pro-bowl nomination.
Pro Bowl? Did you say Pro Bowl?
This is like complaining about a Ford Pinto and then stating not every car can be a Lamborghini.
(08-10-2023, 09:19 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (08-10-2023, 08:24 AM)ATLjag Wrote: [ -> ]I think Farrell is developing into a contributing average TE in this league. In the 3 practices that I have attended this year, he is getting significant reps and, although not his strong suit, has caught the ball well. Not everyone on a team's roster will compete for a pro-bowl nomination.
Fair take, but he's about to be leapfrogged on the depth chart by this kid:
https://twitter.com/JStCyrTV/status/1689...16417?s=20
https://twitter.com/JStCyrTV/status/1689...16417?s=20
Good hands and strong bodied. Strange’s YAC and critical yardage gained are going to be great.
(08-10-2023, 09:09 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (08-10-2023, 08:24 AM)ATLjag Wrote: [ -> ]I think Farrell is developing into a contributing average TE in this league. In the 3 practices that I have attended this year, he is getting significant reps and, although not his strong suit, has caught the ball well. Not everyone on a team's roster will compete for a pro-bowl nomination.
Pro Bowl? Did you say Pro Bowl?
This is like complaining about a Ford Pinto and then stating not every car can be a Lamborghini.
To use your analogy....
He's more like a Toyota Camry (an average car, typically found in many NFL garages as a backup) than a Ford Pinto (piece of garbage), in my opinion, was my point.
(08-08-2023, 04:07 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Nice first depth chart. Appears motivational as much as factual to me...but that's just me...
I agree. Are we really to believe that Strange is less likely to make the team and/or contribute than Farrell this season? Not a chance. I think it's very clear that if it the position battle was even remotely close, the top spot went to the veteran. Pederson doesn't want draft picks to feel entitled. He wants them to work for it. Most of these rookies will move up the chart as the preseason progresses. A depth chart is also a moment in time. On cut day, in addition to who's better right now, Baalke/Pederson will consider salary, age, and potential to improve. All of that is going to work in the draft picks' favor.
Chaisson is in his 4th NFL year and has the same birth year as rookie Tyler Lacy. Forgot how young he came into the league. Maybe not all is lost with him and he can become a decent situational pass rusher this year.
(08-10-2023, 08:30 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-08-2023, 04:07 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Nice first depth chart. Appears motivational as much as factual to me...but that's just me...
I agree. Are we really to believe that Strange is less likely to make the team and/or contribute than Farrell this season? Not a chance. I think it's very clear that if it the position battle was even remotely close, the top spot went to the veteran. Pederson doesn't want draft picks to feel entitled. He wants them to work for it. Most of these rookies will move up the chart as the preseason progresses. A depth chart is also a moment in time. On cut day, in addition to who's better right now, Baalke/Pederson will consider salary, age, and potential to improve. All of that is going to work in the draft picks' favor.
Agree. Also, you don't pick a TE in the 2nd round to sit behind an unproductive 3rd year player that was previously selected in the 5th round by a prior failed regime.
(08-10-2023, 09:34 AM)ATLjag Wrote: [ -> ] (08-10-2023, 09:09 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]Pro Bowl? Did you say Pro Bowl?
This is like complaining about a Ford Pinto and then stating not every car can be a Lamborghini.
To use your analogy....
He's more like a Toyota Camry (an average car, typically found in many NFL garages as a backup) than a Ford Pinto (piece of garbage), in my opinion, was my point.
Agree but I kind of like using a little shock factor for effect.
(08-11-2023, 09:14 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (08-10-2023, 08:30 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: [ -> ]I agree. Are we really to believe that Strange is less likely to make the team and/or contribute than Farrell this season? Not a chance. I think it's very clear that if it the position battle was even remotely close, the top spot went to the veteran. Pederson doesn't want draft picks to feel entitled. He wants them to work for it. Most of these rookies will move up the chart as the preseason progresses. A depth chart is also a moment in time. On cut day, in addition to who's better right now, Baalke/Pederson will consider salary, age, and potential to improve. All of that is going to work in the draft picks' favor.
Agree. Also, you don't pick a TE in the 2nd round to sit behind an unproductive 3rd year player that was previously selected in the 5th round by a prior failed regime.
(08-10-2023, 09:34 AM)ATLjag Wrote: [ -> ]To use your analogy....
He's more like a Toyota Camry (an average car, typically found in many NFL garages as a backup) than a Ford Pinto (piece of garbage), in my opinion, was my point.
Agree but I kind of like using a little shock factor for effect.
Since we're taking this the extra mile, I'd like to stipulate that we are talking base model Camry here.
Zero options.
