(05-01-2024, 03:15 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (05-01-2024, 02:54 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Agreed. I do not really care how the UDFA's played in the past. Now they are in our camp what will matter is how they do here. ALOT of the CB's they will be facing will be taller, heavier and 4.3 guys with a 10yd burst of 1.50 to 1.51. This is a very different level of football. What got college players open in college WILL be different now. Below I went and got some numbers for everyone just to provide some universal metrics for discussion. I included the tight ends as a reference. My take is both TE's will be on the 53 as well as Kirk, Thomas, Davis and Duvernay. The rest are more or less fighting for a spot. Now it is fair to say the receivers above the line do have a head start over those below the line. I hope I didn't miss any. Enjoy.
Evan Engram TE 6'3'' 234 lbs 4.42 40 yd 1.52 10 yd
Brendon Strange TE 6'4'' 253 lbs 4.70 40yd 1.57 10 yd
Christian Kirk WR 5'11'' 201 lbs 4.45 40yd 1.50 10 yd
Brian Thomas Jr. WR 6'3'' 209lbs 4.33 40yd 1.50 yd
Gabe Davis WR 6'2'' 225lbs 4.54 40yd 1.56 10 yd
Devin Duvernay WR 5'11'' 202lbs 4.39 40yd 1.51 10 yd
Elijah Cooks WR 6'4'' 208lbs 4.50 40yd 1.62 10 yd
Parker Washington WR 5'10'' 204lbs 4.49 40yd
Erick Hallett WR 5'11'' 190lbs 4.50 40yd 1.57 10 yd
Tim Jones WR 6'1'' 210lbs 4.53 40yd 1.62 10 yd
Joshua Cephus UDFA 6'2" 186lbs 4.62 40yd 1.52 10 yd
Brevin Easton UDFA 5'11" 187lbs 4.59 40yd 1.59 10 yd
Wayne Ruby UDFA 5'11" 187lbs 4.65 40yd 1.63 10 yd
Joseph Scates UDFA 6'2" 205lbs 4.55 40yd 1.65 10 yd
David White Jr. UDFA 6'2" 195lbs 4.59 40yd 1.59 10 yd
Zay Jones Released 6'2'' 201lbs 4.45 40yd 1.51 10 yd
Your not in Kansas anymore Rook!
Hallett is a corner and I saw Ruby's 40 listed at 4.86; otherwise this is spot on and the issue for those lower guys.
My bad on Hallet. Listing him was a hardware issue. (loose nut at the keyboard) I got Ruby's 40 time from NFLdraftscout.com so I'll blame them...
Looking at he guys below the line "Bo" Cephus should have the best shot as he has a pretty close accelerator. The other guys might have a bit of trouble separating, but who knows.
(05-01-2024, 04:16 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (05-01-2024, 11:57 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]D3, short at 5'11", slow at 4.8 40. I know it's not the end all be all, but a 1.66 RAS score? Yeah, the guy is a D3 legend; I just don't have much hope that he's anything special in the NFL.
https://ras.football/ras-information/?Pl...ount+Union
Oh, I thought that was in regards to Joshua Cephus. Didn't know much about Ruby. I am mostly looking forward to what Cephus can do with his height and speed.
FWIW. Steve Smith really liked both Brian Thomas Jr and Cephus.
(05-01-2024, 04:36 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-01-2024, 03:15 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Hallett is a corner and I saw Ruby's 40 listed at 4.86; otherwise this is spot on and the issue for those lower guys.
My bad on Hallet. Listing him was a hardware issue. (loose nut at the keyboard) I got Ruby's 40 time from NFLdraftscout.com so I'll blame them...
Looking at he guys below the line "Bo" Cephus should have the best shot as he has a pretty close accelerator. The other guys might have a bit of trouble separating, but who knows.
'best shot' for most of those bubble guys is going to lean heavily on their ability to cover or return kicks more than it is about separating or moving chains.
See Jones, Tim; also Thomas, Daniel
(05-11-2024, 12:28 PM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ] (05-10-2024, 02:11 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...nanEg&s=19
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It's official. Cephus is now our next Keelan Cole or Cecil Shorts. 
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For good reason. Shipley knows better. Last thing you want to do is talk up someone you may want to get to your practice squad.
Wish we could get some actual video of Steven Jones as he works out with Javon Foster.
I've see a couple videos where they show Javon doing drills, one of em with Steven. Nothing where Steven is actually doing the drills.
Considering he's the only other O-Lineman there...would like to see his effort and compare it to Javon.
(05-12-2024, 10:11 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (05-10-2024, 02:11 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...nanEg&s=19
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It's official. Cephus is now our next Keelan Cole or Cecil Shorts.
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Ummm, Cecil Shorts was a 4th round draft pick.
I mean he's the "camp guy" that everybody gets excited about but has a few good moments and ultimately bounces to a new location.
(05-13-2024, 08:46 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (05-12-2024, 10:11 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Ummm, Cecil Shorts was a 4th round draft pick.
I mean he's the "camp guy" that everybody gets excited about but has a few good moments and ultimately bounces to a new location.
Cecil and Cole were more then just camp guys though. Cecil was a good player, he was just on a bad team. Cole was a fine player, but again on a bad team. They were both on the Jags for 4 seasons.
If we could get 4 years of that kind of production from Cephus, I'd say that's a win.
(05-15-2024, 02:32 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2024, 08:46 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]I mean he's the "camp guy" that everybody gets excited about but has a few good moments and ultimately bounces to a new location.
Cecil and Cole were more then just camp guys though. Cecil was a good player, he was just on a bad team. Cole was a fine player, but again on a bad team. They were both on the Jags for 4 seasons.
If we could get 4 years of that kind of production from Cephus, I'd say that's a win.
Cole was on the 2017 Jags.
(05-15-2024, 05:53 AM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ] (05-15-2024, 02:32 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Cecil and Cole were more then just camp guys though. Cecil was a good player, he was just on a bad team. Cole was a fine player, but again on a bad team. They were both on the Jags for 4 seasons.
If we could get 4 years of that kind of production from Cephus, I'd say that's a win.
Cole was on the 2017 Jags.
Which proves he can catch knuckle balls throw at him. I believe he dropped the one spiral.
(04-29-2024, 01:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (04-29-2024, 09:43 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if Cooper Hodges can play center? Best case scenario is Hodges at C and Steven Jones take over for Scherrff. Hopefully Jones and Hodges both have a great camp
We don't know if Hodges can play anywhere on an NFL offensive line well enough to even be a backup.
I'm constantly mystified as to why people try to pencil him into plans so often.
Looks like the staff were thinking the same thing I was thinking. Hopefully he can learn under Morse and be our future at center.
https://x.com/JStCyrTV/status/1800203394268967422
(06-15-2024, 09:37 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (04-29-2024, 01:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]We don't know if Hodges can play anywhere on an NFL offensive line well enough to even be a backup.
I'm constantly mystified as to why people try to pencil him into plans so often.
Looks like the staff were thinking the same thing I was thinking. Hopefully he can learn under Morse and be our future at center.
https://x.com/JStCyrTV/status/1800203394268967422
Cool
And we still have no idea if he's good enough to become the back up to the starters at guard and center.
I hope he can. Would be a bargain.
Hope he has a good training camp. Word on the sly is that the important people are bullish on him.
(06-15-2024, 09:37 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (04-29-2024, 01:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]We don't know if Hodges can play anywhere on an NFL offensive line well enough to even be a backup.
I'm constantly mystified as to why people try to pencil him into plans so often.
Looks like the staff were thinking the same thing I was thinking. Hopefully he can learn under Morse and be our future at center.
https://x.com/JStCyrTV/status/1800203394268967422
According to Hodges himself, he has never snapped a ball as center in a game.
Can the center position be taught and then successfully executed at this level? Honest question.
(06-16-2024, 08:00 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (06-15-2024, 09:37 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Looks like the staff were thinking the same thing I was thinking. Hopefully he can learn under Morse and be our future at center.
https://x.com/JStCyrTV/status/1800203394268967422
According to Hodges himself, he has never snapped a ball as center in a game.
Can the center position be taught and then successfully executed at this level? Honest question.
Great question. Guess we are going to find out and it will be interesting. Maybe they are developing themselves a jack-of-all trades lineman? They must have seen something for him to garner this type of attention. This will only add to the hopeful aurora and suspense that has surrounded this local guy since he was given the nickname Tugboat. If successful maybe they can move Fortner and get a ham sandwich or two. Perhaps a change of venue is what he needs.