(07-16-2024, 08:08 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-16-2024, 05:37 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]The Biden administration held a summit a couple of years ago with the manufacturers of electric cars. Guess who wasn’t invited? Insane.
Oddly enough, I have read that most manufacturers are struggling with EV sales and going back to ICE R&D. They also likely know another 4 (hopefully) longer years of $2 gas is on the horizon as well once Trump turns those drills back on.
Tesla will continue to do well no mater what because they have figured out the hardest part; production.
(07-16-2024, 07:18 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]
Or, he wants to make a friend of Trump so he can keep the electric car subsidies going.
Based on this comment, I'll assume you have conceded this election?
Just to be very precise with my answer- "Conceded" implies that I am for another candidate. That is not necessarily true at this point. I do think it's very probable Trump will win, yes.
(07-16-2024, 07:18 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (07-15-2024, 03:58 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]RNC just kicked off not too long ago with Trump already receiving more than the 1,215 count to win.
This is going to be a historic convention based on unifying a collapsing country.
One of the best moves they made early on was finally ditching Ronna McDaniel.
Trump/Vance '24
Looking forward to The Vance/Harris debates too!!
Whichever one winds up being Vice-President will probably wind up being President. There's a very good chance neither Trump nor Biden survive another 4 years as President. I'm not talking about assassination; I'm talking about natural causes. They are old.
(07-15-2024, 09:59 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Musk has seen the light. He's not overly conservative but he understands the government has to be dismantled or the future is dim.
I think we will see a huge rise in support for small federal government, more local and state power, where it moves to being fiscally conservative and leaving people alone on the social issues while protecting children.
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Or, he wants to make a friend of Trump so he can keep the electric car subsidies going.
Not just subsidies, tariffs also.
Note that Biden has given EV manufacturers the subsidies and tariffs they want as well.
So Elon's preference is probably due to something else.
I would guess he thinks there's going to be another round of tax cuts for corporations and investors, along with a reduction in IRS auditing, if Trump wins.
(07-16-2024, 08:56 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-16-2024, 07:18 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Whichever one winds up being Vice-President will probably wind up being President. There's a very good chance neither Trump nor Biden survive another 4 years as President. I'm not talking about assassination; I'm talking about natural causes. They are old.
Or, he wants to make a friend of Trump so he can keep the electric car subsidies going.
Not just subsidies, tariffs also.
Note that Biden has given EV manufacturers the subsidies and tariffs they want as well.
So Elon's preference is probably due to something else.
I would guess he thinks there's going to be another round of tax cuts for corporations and investors, along with a reduction in IRS auditing, if Trump wins.
I think Elon is making friends with Trump so he will have a chance in the future to talk him into keeping the subsidies (for buying an electric vehicle) going.
I think Elon is making friends with Trump because he realizes that this country cannot withstand another four years of the [BLEEP] show that creepy joe has given it. Him and everyone realizes that a vote for pedo joe is a vote for kakala and that simply cannot be allowed to happen. Just try to imagine a world in which kakala is POTUS.
(07-16-2024, 09:32 AM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]I think Elon is making friends with Trump because he realizes that this country cannot withstand another four years of the [BLEEP] show that creepy joe has given it. Him and everyone realizes that a vote for pedo joe is a vote for kakala and that simply cannot be allowed to happen. Just try to imagine a world in which kakala is POTUS.
Be specific - what mistakes has Biden made and why does a billionaire like Elon care?
I didn't watch the convention, but I have seen some clips. Something I noticed that kind of stood out to me...
When President Trump made his way to his seat, the usual people that you would expect to see (Don Jr. and his wife, Eric Trump, Laura Trump and JD Vance) were around him. Other notable people around him were Rep. Byron Donalds of Florida and none other than Tucker Carlson.
Perhaps Tucker Carlson might be his media spokesman? That would drive liberals over a cliff.
Interesting take, not my words though, adding this for color and for a different perspective, Nick Fuentes is controversial, but, he's under the age of 25 and is gaining a large following:
"If Trump isn't based on immigration, Israel, White Identity, or Christianity, then what is it all for? Seriously.
What I am getting from the RNC and Trump campaign is that this election is about inflation, border security, China, school choice, and energy. Replace China with Russia and this is the same standard GOP platform for the last 30 years.
There will be no mass deportations, no reduction in legal immigration, not even a wall. Trump will likely support Israel's "once and for all" confrontation with Iran. Trump's GOP has abandoned any pretense of being socially conservative. There has been no talk of tech censorship, which has only tenuously and narrowly been addressed by Elon's acquisition of Twitter. In place of trade and infrastructure, Trump's economic policy is to deepen the Paul Ryan corporate tax cut from 2018. And if you think there will be some sneaky based agenda implemented by personnel... Trump has thrice distanced himself from Project 2025 which maintains the best personnel database between several competing think tanks.
The Trump 2024 agenda isn't more conservative than Trump 2016, which we considered a starting point, in fact it isn't even AS conservative as the 2016 Trump agenda. 8 years have gone by, the urgency has never been greater, our mandate is stronger than ever, but our side is retreating. We have unlearned the political lessons of 2016, the political victories have been undone. The bankrupt "conventional wisdom" of the GOP that was shattered has been reconstituted, the neocons who were ignominiously defeated are now triumphant. A Never Trumper is Vice President. The self-hating Trump GOP speaks ashamedly of the Trump tweets that won the election and we don't even have those.
The Wall Street and Silicon Valley Swamp has coalesced around Trump. They dedicated the GOP platform to forgotten men and women but presented pornstars, Sikhs, immigrants, and black men (the least forgotten, most pandered to demographic). Charlie Kirk became a Christian Nationalist, but somehow the GOP got even gayer. Julian Assange, who leaked Hillary's emails, was freed by Biden but Ric Grenell who extradited him will be made Secretary of State.
And worst of all, now that the elites have accepted Trump, he will be more popular than ever. The triumph of the elites will be legitimized by Trump and called the people's revolution. And by 2029 or maybe sooner, the heir apparent to all of it will be JD Vance, a Never Trumper who voted for Evan McMullen."
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(07-16-2024, 09:22 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]I think Elon is making friends with Trump so he will have a chance in the future to talk him into keeping the subsidies (for buying an electric vehicle) going.
(07-16-2024, 09:32 AM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]I think Elon is making friends with Trump because he realizes that this country cannot withstand another four years of the [BLEEP] show that creepy joe has given it. Him and everyone realizes that a vote for pedo joe is a vote for kakala and that simply cannot be allowed to happen. Just try to imagine a world in which kakala is POTUS.
I think Elon is making friends with Trump because he thinks Trump has Jeffrey Epstein's rolodex
(07-17-2024, 03:43 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]I guess someone forgot to invite The Uniparty..
https://twitter.com/w_terrence/status/18...46uPQ&s=19
Is Melania going? Sorry, I've been focused on the next GOAT ..... Bronny James !!
(07-18-2024, 05:33 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (07-16-2024, 09:22 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]I think Elon is making friends with Trump so he will have a chance in the future to talk him into keeping the subsidies (for buying an electric vehicle) going.
(07-16-2024, 09:32 AM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]I think Elon is making friends with Trump because he realizes that this country cannot withstand another four years of the [BLEEP] show that creepy joe has given it. Him and everyone realizes that a vote for pedo joe is a vote for kakala and that simply cannot be allowed to happen. Just try to imagine a world in which kakala is POTUS.
I think Elon is making friends with Trump because he thinks Trump has Jeffrey Epstein's rolodex
He also has a map to where Hugh Hefner's video vault was dumped.
The band playing at the convention is pretty darned good.
Even those with the most severe case of TDS can't hate this speech.