(07-21-2024, 10:13 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]This is 2024. Bill Buckley is dead. The National Review magazine has changed hands multiple times. We don't have to let Buckley define conservative values. We don't have to show any deference. We know he was sincerely in favor of racism and segregation and all his "limited government" and "conservative" talk he put out in the 50s and 60s was more of a means to an end. Let the dead argue with the dead.
It is best when there is no blatant discrimination in the first place, but in a world where blatant discrimination exists, that world becomes a better place when the blatant discrimination is punished. The government is legitimately part of that. It is self evident and borne out by experience.
(07-21-2024, 10:09 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]I honestly think if they brought back the negative review, I'd have less to say to a certain few people here. I'd just drop my review and carry on. Can't do that anymore so I just go above and beyond and remind certain people about themselves..
And that's exactly why it isn't here anymore.
If you can't explain why you think someone's wrong, you're either lazy, dumb, or wrong yourself.
Or.. some of us just don't like repeating ourselves a thousand times a day..
(07-21-2024, 10:29 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (07-21-2024, 10:13 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]
And that's exactly why it isn't here anymore.
If you can't explain why you think someone's wrong, you're either lazy, dumb, or wrong yourself.
Or.. some of us just don't like repeating ourselves a thousand times a day..
If you're tired of rebutting things, just ignore it. You could do that before and you still can now.
(07-21-2024, 10:35 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-21-2024, 10:29 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Or.. some of us just don't like repeating ourselves a thousand times a day..
If you're tired of rebutting things, just ignore it. You could do that before and you still can now.
I could, but won't. Not my style.
(07-21-2024, 10:40 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (07-21-2024, 10:35 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]If you're tired of rebutting things, just ignore it. You could do that before and you still can now.
I could, but won't. Not my style.
That's fine. If you don't feel a need to prove why you're right and I'm wrong, that's fine. If you feel a need to just insult me and move on, that's fine too.
(07-21-2024, 10:13 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]This is 2024. Bill Buckley is dead. The National Review magazine has changed hands multiple times. We don't have to let Buckley define conservative values. We don't have to show any deference. We know he was sincerely in favor of racism and segregation and all his "limited government" and "conservative" talk he put out in the 50s and 60s was more of a means to an end. Let the dead argue with the dead.
It is best when there is no blatant discrimination in the first place, but in a world where blatant discrimination exists, that world becomes a better place when the blatant discrimination is punished. The government is legitimately part of that. It is self evident and borne out by experience.
(07-21-2024, 10:09 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]I honestly think if they brought back the negative review, I'd have less to say to a certain few people here. I'd just drop my review and carry on. Can't do that anymore so I just go above and beyond and remind certain people about themselves..
And that's exactly why it isn't here anymore.
If you can't explain why you think someone's wrong, you're either lazy, dumb, or wrong yourself.
Oh sweetie, it's not here anymore because the Mod team got tired of listening to your tear-filled pleas to make everyone stop being big meanies to you. You flat out wort them out.
(07-21-2024, 01:51 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (07-21-2024, 10:13 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]This is 2024. Bill Buckley is dead. The National Review magazine has changed hands multiple times. We don't have to let Buckley define conservative values. We don't have to show any deference. We know he was sincerely in favor of racism and segregation and all his "limited government" and "conservative" talk he put out in the 50s and 60s was more of a means to an end. Let the dead argue with the dead.
It is best when there is no blatant discrimination in the first place, but in a world where blatant discrimination exists, that world becomes a better place when the blatant discrimination is punished. The government is legitimately part of that. It is self evident and borne out by experience.
And that's exactly why it isn't here anymore.
If you can't explain why you think someone's wrong, you're either lazy, dumb, or wrong yourself.
Oh sweetie, it's not here anymore because the Mod team got tired of listening to your tear-filled pleas to make everyone stop being big meanies to you. You flat out wort them out.
I'll take the blame for that.. I always thought the red reviews meant that you like the content?!?
Hearts are red!!
I used to drop so much love on his posts!!
3 pages in and I have yet to hear a strong argument of the polices that have improved America. Do they really only have that point the finger at someone else and say they are worst argument?
(07-22-2024, 11:56 AM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]3 pages in and I have yet to hear a strong argument of the polices that have improved America. Do they really only have that point the finger at someone else and say they are worst argument?
Here you go. Perhaps there's just too many to list....
https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/
(07-22-2024, 12:34 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (07-22-2024, 11:56 AM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]3 pages in and I have yet to hear a strong argument of the polices that have improved America. Do they really only have that point the finger at someone else and say they are worst argument?
Here you go. Perhaps there's just too many to list....
https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/
Read some of that and it's mostly Left wing propaganda that goes against common sense or what the average American is going through right now.
(07-22-2024, 12:34 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (07-22-2024, 11:56 AM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]3 pages in and I have yet to hear a strong argument of the polices that have improved America. Do they really only have that point the finger at someone else and say they are worst argument?
Here you go. Perhaps there's just too many to list....
https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/
The very first one is a blatent lie.
I can't help but laugh when they say that our country faced unprecedented racial injustice when their junta came to power. Kamala Harris held black men in prison beyond their sentences to keep their free labor for Commiefornia; she is literally the cause of that racial injustice.
And have those morons really never heard any of our history? I think 1895 was far worse for racial injustice than any year after about 1970, never mind 1855 when we had literal slavery. Morons appealing to morons.
Any piece of data that doesn't start pre-pandemic is a lie.
(07-23-2024, 05:28 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]https://youtu.be/g_a7dQXilCo?si=c_rDWteZ7KhsfGxo
Learning history is important.
But sometimes the past doesn't predict the future.
The more interesting fact is it takes a civil war to start a new viable political party in this country. Because it is so hard, new people with new ideas for new times take over an old party instead of starting their own. It has happened many times already. It's a good thing. Trump is only the latest example of party organization surviving while party ideology is wholly replaced.
The Democratic party's ideology has died and been replaced at least twice since the days of the KKK and lynchings.
(07-23-2024, 07:54 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2024, 05:28 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]https://youtu.be/g_a7dQXilCo?si=c_rDWteZ7KhsfGxo
Learning history is important.
But sometimes the past doesn't predict the future.
The more interesting fact is it takes a civil war to start a new viable political party in this country. Because it is so hard, new people with new ideas for new times take over an old party instead of starting their own. It has happened many times already. It's a good thing. Trump is only the latest example of party organization surviving while party ideology is wholly replaced.
The Democratic party's ideology has died and been replaced at least twice since the days of the KKK and lynchings.
You sure? Because it sure as hell feels like the left has pandered like a [BLEEP] to keep their strangehold on miniorities to keep them on the plantation. The right is beginning to play the same game now.
Mental slavery is real. So is the failure of democratically ran counties and cities who have had the ability to elevate these communities and have done nothing other than pander and squander.
The reality? Neither party gives us a [BLEEP] about any of us. Not unless you have the color green to offer them. Then, maybe, just maybe, you can get close enough to one to stick your hand up their [BLEEP] to treat them like the meat puppets they are.
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(07-23-2024, 07:54 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2024, 05:28 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]https://youtu.be/g_a7dQXilCo?si=c_rDWteZ7KhsfGxo
Learning history is important.
But sometimes the past doesn't predict the future.
The more interesting fact is it takes a civil war to start a new viable political party in this country. Because it is so hard, new people with new ideas for new times take over an old party instead of starting their own. It has happened many times already. It's a good thing. Trump is only the latest example of party organization surviving while party ideology is wholly replaced.
The Democratic party's ideology has died and been replaced at least twice since the days of the KKK and lynchings.
Are you kidding? They just traded to a different skin tone. The left is all about DEI over personal accomplishments. Really poor argument.
(07-23-2024, 08:58 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2024, 07:54 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Learning history is important.
But sometimes the past doesn't predict the future.
The more interesting fact is it takes a civil war to start a new viable political party in this country. Because it is so hard, new people with new ideas for new times take over an old party instead of starting their own. It has happened many times already. It's a good thing. Trump is only the latest example of party organization surviving while party ideology is wholly replaced.
The Democratic party's ideology has died and been replaced at least twice since the days of the KKK and lynchings.
Are you kidding? They just traded to a different skin tone. The left is all about DEI over personal accomplishments. Really poor argument.
Lol.
Was social security about race?
Was the national labor relations act about race?
Was medicare and medicaid about race?
You ask me if I'm kidding. No. I'm not. Are you?
(07-23-2024, 09:06 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-23-2024, 08:58 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]Are you kidding? They just traded to a different skin tone. The left is all about DEI over personal accomplishments. Really poor argument.
Lol.
Was social security about race?
Was the national labor relations act about race?
Was medicare and medicaid about race?
You ask me if I'm kidding. No. I'm not. Are you?
Your going back to Medicare dude back in the 60's? Just to school you, that Democrat political party, back in the 60's was a Dramatically different Democrat from your modern Democrat. They were very much a racist party and would be very much against Diversity and Gender inclusion. That Democratic party was also for segregation. I am referring to the modern Democratic party who is a very different animals. The common Denominator is they have always been race hustlers.
From what I have seen DEI is just another form of discrimination. At least the way it is being enacted presently.