Jacksonville Jaguars Fan Forums

(08-24-2024, 11:12 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Is a room with blond-haired and brown-haired white women diverse?

In terms of gender and skin/hair color, no.
In other ways, probably yes.
What's your point?

(08-24-2024, 11:12 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Is a room with blond-haired and brown-haired white women diverse?

That's an interesting question.  I would say yes, it is completely diverse, since every person is unique.

(08-25-2024, 12:16 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-25-2024, 10:54 AM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Hot and spicy is not fun for everybody. Hot and spicy hurts sometimes. Sometimes it burns twice. Once when you consume it and once again when you process it and push through it.

Also, you think being in an interracial relationship absolves you from any issues, indifferences or even racism? The loonies on the left will tell you it's racist to some extent in some article I am sure.

Google it. It will come up. Also, prove me otherwise. Look at how the UK is fairing now since it allowed and enabled it's "cultural enrichment" with predominately middle eastern people from a specific religion.

Where do you think our country is headed? At least I have the stones to say the quiet part out loud. It's not working... statistics prove this. Today's political climate and division proves this. The media just tries to bury it for obvious reasons...

Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

That has nothing to do with segregation.

Sure it does. Segregation kept us away from one another. And for good reason.

In the long run, it's done more harm than good. We can pretend it hasn't. I won't.

The majority of blacks and whites do not get along. Crime statistics support this as a fact.

Go look online. How many times do you find a group of white kids ganging up on a black kid?

Now, how many times do you see a group of black kids ganging up on a white kid?

How much crime is black on white? Versus white on black?

Again, maybe it was for the best.

We have failed as a society. Time to admit it and move the [BLEEP] on.

Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

Dude, you need to step away from the white nationalist folks, Cal. We agree in almost all other areas, but these talking points are just nonsensical.

We also disagreed with the Italians. And the Irish. And the Spaniards. We get along fine now. It's not skin color that created the problem. It's government programs. Our government destroyed black prosperity in this country, beginning with the minimum wage laws and moving to the destruction of the black family disguised as welfare. Not only did they institutionalize segregation, they created a destructive ideology in the hearts and minds of black Americans. Desegregation was not the problem.

Now, I buy the argument that we would have eventually desegregated anyways, but I don't buy the argument that any of this is intrinsic to skin color. It's just cultural. Anyone who buys into the American dream and enlightenment values would be a boon in our society, regardless of color. Blacks can and do fit in. They were doing great up until the 90's and the effects of second-generation welfare and Hollywood drug them down into cultural degradation.

---

(08-25-2024, 01:19 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-24-2024, 11:12 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Is a room with blond-haired and brown-haired white women diverse?

In terms of gender and skin/hair color, no.
In other ways, probably yes.
What's your point?

The point is that you are measuring something worthless, and you know it.

(08-25-2024, 01:23 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-25-2024, 12:16 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]That has nothing to do with segregation.

Sure it does. Segregation kept us away from one another. And for good reason.

In the long run, it's done more harm than good. We can pretend it hasn't. I won't.

The majority of blacks and whites do not get along. Crime statistics support this as a fact.

Go look online. How many times do you find a group of white kids ganging up on a black kid?

Now, how many times do you see a group of black kids ganging up on a white kid?

How much crime is black on white? Versus white on black?

Again, maybe it was for the best.

We have failed as a society. Time to admit it and move the [BLEEP] on.

Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

So you are in favor of segregation?  

By the way, actual crime statistics show that white on white crime is at least 4 times as prevalent as black on white crime.  So I don't know what you're driving at there.

(08-25-2024, 01:23 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-25-2024, 12:16 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]That has nothing to do with segregation.

Sure it does. Segregation kept us away from one another. And for good reason.

In the long run, it's done more harm than good. We can pretend it hasn't. I won't.

The majority of blacks and whites do not get along. Crime statistics support this as a fact.

Go look online. How many times do you find a group of white kids ganging up on a black kid?

Now, how many times do you see a group of black kids ganging up on a white kid?

How much crime is black on white? Versus white on black?

Again, maybe it was for the best.

We have failed as a society. Time to admit it and move the [BLEEP] on.

Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

Dude. You need to stay off social media for a while.

The algorithm is getting you down bad. I’ve seen you post stuff very early in the morning. You shouldn’t be waking up and going down these rabbit holes. It’s not healthy.

(08-25-2024, 01:37 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Dude, you need to step away from the white nationalist folks, Cal. We agree in almost all other areas, but these talking points are just nonsensical.

We also disagreed with the Italians. And the Irish. And the Spaniards. We get along fine now. It's not skin color that created the problem. It's government programs. Our government destroyed black prosperity in this country, beginning with the minimum wage laws and moving to the destruction of the black family disguised as welfare. Not only did they institutionalize segregation, they created a destructive ideology in the hearts and minds of black Americans. Desegregation was not the problem. Now, I buy the argument that we would have eventually desegregated anyways, but I don't buy the argument that any of this is intrinsic to skin color. It's just cultural.

---

(08-25-2024, 01:19 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]In terms of gender and skin/hair color, no.
In other ways, probably yes.
What's your point?

The point is that you are measuring something worthless, and you know it.

Not sure if you noticed it or not, but, I am on here for myself, bud. Not trying to earn brownie points or +1's from any of you.

My whole point, again, you chop it up to Government interference and failing these communities, etc.

That's my whole point. It's failed. It continues to fail. Each generation has been brainwashed and brow beaten into submission now into white guilt and white privilege and DEI is just now starting to show it's [BLEEP] results and outcomes.

The whole point of segregation is to minimize needless violence, hate and crime against one another.

There's a reason hundred's of borders exist and there's a reason why people are pushing back on immigration. There's nationalist's everywhere, not limited to just "wypippo".

Go ask those white south African's how they feel about being in a predominately black nation. In the long run, it doesn't work. Just a lot easier to accept the fact that we have inherent differences and therefore have likes and dislikes.



Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

(08-25-2024, 01:51 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-25-2024, 01:37 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Dude, you need to step away from the white nationalist folks, Cal. We agree in almost all other areas, but these talking points are just nonsensical.

We also disagreed with the Italians. And the Irish. And the Spaniards. We get along fine now. It's not skin color that created the problem. It's government programs. Our government destroyed black prosperity in this country, beginning with the minimum wage laws and moving to the destruction of the black family disguised as welfare. Not only did they institutionalize segregation, they created a destructive ideology in the hearts and minds of black Americans. Desegregation was not the problem. Now, I buy the argument that we would have eventually desegregated anyways, but I don't buy the argument that any of this is intrinsic to skin color. It's just cultural.

---

The point is that you are measuring something worthless, and you know it.

Not sure if you noticed it or not, but, I am on here for myself, bud. Not trying to earn brownie points or +1's from any of you.

My whole point, again, you chop it up to Government interference and failing these communities, etc.

That's my whole point. It's failed. It continues to fail. Each generation has been brainwashed and brow beaten into submission now into white guilt and white privilege and DEI is just now starting to show it's [BLEEP] results and outcomes.

The whole point of segregation is to minimize needless violence, hate and crime against one another.

There's a reason hundred's of borders exist and there's a reason why people are pushing back on immigration. There's nationalist's everywhere, not limited to just "wypippo".

Go ask those white south African's how they feel about being in a predominately black nation. In the long run, it doesn't work. Just a lot easier to accept the fact that we have inherent differences and therefore have likes and dislikes.



Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

Like I said, actual crime statistics show that white on white crime is at least 4 times as prevalent as black on white crime.  

Besides, if you segregate the races, what are you going to do with the 13% of the population that is biracial?  And who gets to claim the Asians?  

(08-25-2024, 01:53 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-25-2024, 01:51 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure if you noticed it or not, but, I am on here for myself, bud. Not trying to earn brownie points or +1's from any of you.

My whole point, again, you chop it up to Government interference and failing these communities, etc.

That's my whole point. It's failed. It continues to fail. Each generation has been brainwashed and brow beaten into submission now into white guilt and white privilege and DEI is just now starting to show it's [BLEEP] results and outcomes.

The whole point of segregation is to minimize needless violence, hate and crime against one another.

There's a reason hundred's of borders exist and there's a reason why people are pushing back on immigration. There's nationalist's everywhere, not limited to just "wypippo".

Go ask those white south African's how they feel about being in a predominately black nation. In the long run, it doesn't work. Just a lot easier to accept the fact that we have inherent differences and therefore have likes and dislikes.



Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

Like I said, actual crime statistics show that white on white crime is at least 4 times as prevalent as black on white crime.  

Besides, if you segregate the races, what are you going to do with the 13% of the population that is biracial?  And who gets to claim the Asians?  

Are we segregating sports too? Now we don’t get Trevor to BTJ highlights?

Just when you think the political section of the board can’t get any worse…..

(08-25-2024, 01:53 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-25-2024, 01:51 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure if you noticed it or not, but, I am on here for myself, bud. Not trying to earn brownie points or +1's from any of you.

My whole point, again, you chop it up to Government interference and failing these communities, etc.

That's my whole point. It's failed. It continues to fail. Each generation has been brainwashed and brow beaten into submission now into white guilt and white privilege and DEI is just now starting to show it's [BLEEP] results and outcomes.

The whole point of segregation is to minimize needless violence, hate and crime against one another.

There's a reason hundred's of borders exist and there's a reason why people are pushing back on immigration. There's nationalist's everywhere, not limited to just "wypippo".

Go ask those white south African's how they feel about being in a predominately black nation. In the long run, it doesn't work. Just a lot easier to accept the fact that we have inherent differences and therefore have likes and dislikes.



Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

Like I said, actual crime statistics show that white on white crime is at least 4 times as prevalent as black on white crime.  

Besides, if you segregate the races, what are you going to do with the 13% of the population that is biracial?  And who gets to claim the Asians?  

Take out four or five major US cities (blue majority politically, and, predominately black) and the gun violence plummets off the radar.

White on white is high. Black on black is high. However, again, black on white is much higher the other way around.

It'll be fine though for you. You're a boomer. You won't be here long enough to see it.

Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

---

(08-25-2024, 01:55 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-25-2024, 01:53 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Like I said, actual crime statistics show that white on white crime is at least 4 times as prevalent as black on white crime.  

Besides, if you segregate the races, what are you going to do with the 13% of the population that is biracial?  And who gets to claim the Asians?  

Are we segregating sports too? Now we don’t get Trevor to BTJ highlights?

Just when you think the political section of the board can’t get any worse…..

Bread and circuses for the peanut gallery going away?!?!?!?

Oh no....

Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

(08-25-2024, 01:53 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-25-2024, 01:51 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure if you noticed it or not, but, I am on here for myself, bud. Not trying to earn brownie points or +1's from any of you.

My whole point, again, you chop it up to Government interference and failing these communities, etc.

That's my whole point. It's failed. It continues to fail. Each generation has been brainwashed and brow beaten into submission now into white guilt and white privilege and DEI is just now starting to show it's [BLEEP] results and outcomes.

The whole point of segregation is to minimize needless violence, hate and crime against one another.

There's a reason hundred's of borders exist and there's a reason why people are pushing back on immigration. There's nationalist's everywhere, not limited to just "wypippo".

Go ask those white south African's how they feel about being in a predominately black nation. In the long run, it doesn't work. Just a lot easier to accept the fact that we have inherent differences and therefore have likes and dislikes.



Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

Like I said, actual crime statistics show that white on white crime is at least 4 times as prevalent as black on white crime.  

Besides, if you segregate the races, what are you going to do with the 13% of the population that is biracial?  And who gets to claim the Asians?  

Garbage in, garbage out. Have you thought about those statistics for even a minute?

(08-25-2024, 01:37 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]

---

(08-25-2024, 01:19 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]In terms of gender and skin/hair color, no.
In other ways, probably yes.
What's your point?

The point is that you are measuring something worthless, and you know it.

Sure.  Blonds and redheads, not a huge difference. Brunettes, maybe a larger difference.  But not super meaningful.
Now, just speaking of biology, skin color isn't any more "diverse" than hair color or eye color.  
But we are more than biology.  We are products of history and society.  And there the skin color thing was huge.  We can work towards it being smaller, but it's not going to go away in our lifetimes.  We have to measure it.  I don't think that's debatable.  We should know the racial breakdown of certain things and places.  The part that's debatable, that I'm really not sure how to answer, is what do we do with that information once we have it.  Certainly Democrats want to do too much.  And for sure, saying "someone should do something" doesn't mean the government should be the ones doing it.

(08-25-2024, 02:20 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-25-2024, 01:53 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Like I said, actual crime statistics show that white on white crime is at least 4 times as prevalent as black on white crime.  

Besides, if you segregate the races, what are you going to do with the 13% of the population that is biracial?  And who gets to claim the Asians?  

Garbage in, garbage out. Have you thought about those statistics for even a minute?

What's your point?

(08-25-2024, 01:51 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-25-2024, 01:37 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Dude, you need to step away from the white nationalist folks, Cal. We agree in almost all other areas, but these talking points are just nonsensical.

We also disagreed with the Italians. And the Irish. And the Spaniards. We get along fine now. It's not skin color that created the problem. It's government programs. Our government destroyed black prosperity in this country, beginning with the minimum wage laws and moving to the destruction of the black family disguised as welfare. Not only did they institutionalize segregation, they created a destructive ideology in the hearts and minds of black Americans. Desegregation was not the problem. Now, I buy the argument that we would have eventually desegregated anyways, but I don't buy the argument that any of this is intrinsic to skin color. It's just cultural.

---

The point is that you are measuring something worthless, and you know it.

Not sure if you noticed it or not, but, I am on here for myself, bud. Not trying to earn brownie points or +1's from any of you.

My whole point, again, you chop it up to Government interference and failing these communities, etc.

That's my whole point. It's failed. It continues to fail. Each generation has been brainwashed and brow beaten into submission now into white guilt and white privilege and DEI is just now starting to show it's [BLEEP] results and outcomes.

The whole point of segregation is to minimize needless violence, hate and crime against one another.

There's a reason hundred's of borders exist and there's a reason why people are pushing back on immigration. There's nationalist's everywhere, not limited to just "wypippo".

Go ask those white south African's how they feel about being in a predominately black nation. In the long run, it doesn't work. Just a lot easier to accept the fact that we have inherent differences and therefore have likes and dislikes.



Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

Who said anything about brownie points? You can be ignorant if you want, but it bums me out, because it's hard to find people who know what's wrong with this country. These white nationalists are morons. They are the product of people who are being disenfranchised by the government, and so they are taking on the telltale traits of othering and victimhood. Segregation is a stupid concept. Not segregation of ideas, mind you. Basing it on something worthless like color is the mantra of simpletons, but you do you. It's the EXACT same thing that Mikey's doing, but from the other side.

---

(08-25-2024, 02:22 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-25-2024, 02:20 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Garbage in, garbage out. Have you thought about those statistics for even a minute?

What's your point?

It's simple math, man. It's not 4x higher per capita. It's 4 times higher in total. Considering whites make up a larger portion of the population than blacks, it's going to be higher. Not only that, now we have crime statistics being altered to try to close the gap, but that's a different discussion. Per capita, there is a noticeable difference. Cal is right in that most of this crime is coming out of 4 or 5 cities.

(08-25-2024, 02:25 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-25-2024, 01:51 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure if you noticed it or not, but, I am on here for myself, bud. Not trying to earn brownie points or +1's from any of you.

My whole point, again, you chop it up to Government interference and failing these communities, etc.

That's my whole point. It's failed. It continues to fail. Each generation has been brainwashed and brow beaten into submission now into white guilt and white privilege and DEI is just now starting to show it's [BLEEP] results and outcomes.

The whole point of segregation is to minimize needless violence, hate and crime against one another.

There's a reason hundred's of borders exist and there's a reason why people are pushing back on immigration. There's nationalist's everywhere, not limited to just "wypippo".

Go ask those white south African's how they feel about being in a predominately black nation. In the long run, it doesn't work. Just a lot easier to accept the fact that we have inherent differences and therefore have likes and dislikes.



Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

Who said anything about brownie points? You can be ignorant if you want, but it bums me out, because it's hard to find people who know what's wrong with this country. These white nationalists are morons. They are the product of people who are being disenfranchised by the government, and so they are taking on the telltale traits of othering and victimhood. Segregation is a stupid concept. Not segregation of ideas, mind you. Basing it on something worthless like color is the mantra of simpletons, but you do you. It's the EXACT same thing that Mikey's doing, but from the other side.

---

(08-25-2024, 02:22 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]What's your point?

It's simple math, man. It's not 4x higher per capita. It's 4 times higher in total. Considering whites make up a larger portion of the population than blacks, it's going to be higher. Not only that, now we have crime statistics being altered to try to close the gap, but that's a different discussion. Per capita, there is a noticeable difference. Cal is right in that most of this crime is coming out of 4 or 5 cities.

I know it's not 4 times higher per capita.  Duh!  There are 4 times as many white people in this country than black people.  White on black crime is 4 times as prevalent as black on white crime.  I'm not saying white people commit more crimes against black people per capita.  I'm saying the stats line up with the population percentages.  "4 times as prevalent" means that for every black on white crime, there are 4 white on black crimes.  It lines up with the population percentages, and the idea that black are disproportionately attacking white people is not true.

Topic called for hot takes. I dropped a Cleveland Steamer and most of you got your panties in a bunch.

Gotta love it!

I am a Realist. I am a Nationalist. A Fiscal Conservative. Classic Liberal. Whatever you want to label me. Have at it. No skin off my teeth.

Do I believe in segregation? No. Hence, that's why I said it was "probably" for the best.

Do I believe all black's and white's are incapable of coexisting or should be separated? Of course not. There's some that can make it work.

Do I feel, that, the majority of this country is cooked and that our differences between race, sex, religion and economic standing will be our inevitable downfall?
Absolutely.

Political theater has made it so. Class warfare has been a thing forever. Still, not going to apologize for saying quiet parts outloud sometimes.

No matter how ignorant or offensive some folks might find it. Facts over feelings. I think we'll look back in roughly 25 years and most of us will regret the way things ultimately turned out for our country.

With that said. Opinions are like buttholes. Everybody's got one.

Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

(08-25-2024, 02:35 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Topic called for hot takes. I dropped a Cleveland Steamer and most of you got your panties in a bunch.

Gotta love it!

I am a Realist. I am a Nationalist. A Fiscal Conservative. Classic Liberal. Whatever you want to label me. Have at it. No skin off my teeth.

Do I believe in segregation? No. Hence, that's why I said it was "probably" for the best.

Do I believe all black's and white's are incapable of coexisting or should be separated? Of course not. There's some that can make it work.

Do I feel, that, the majority of this country is cooked and that our differences between race, sex, religion and economic standing will be our inevitable downfall?
Absolutely.

Political theater has made it so. Class warfare has been a thing forever. Still, not going to apologize for saying quiet parts outloud sometimes.

No matter how ignorant or offensive some folks might find it. Facts over feelings. I think we'll look back in roughly 25 years and most of us will regret the way things ultimately turned out for our country.

With that said. Opinions are like buttholes. Everybody's got one.

Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

I really don't mind at all.

(08-25-2024, 01:21 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-24-2024, 11:12 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Is a room with blond-haired and brown-haired white women diverse?

That's an interesting question.  I would say yes, it is completely diverse, since every person is unique.

Of course it is. The brown hair one didn't drive around the block continuously because her turn signal was stuck.

(08-25-2024, 02:33 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-25-2024, 02:25 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Who said anything about brownie points? You can be ignorant if you want, but it bums me out, because it's hard to find people who know what's wrong with this country. These white nationalists are morons. They are the product of people who are being disenfranchised by the government, and so they are taking on the telltale traits of othering and victimhood. Segregation is a stupid concept. Not segregation of ideas, mind you. Basing it on something worthless like color is the mantra of simpletons, but you do you. It's the EXACT same thing that Mikey's doing, but from the other side.

---

It's simple math, man. It's not 4x higher per capita. It's 4 times higher in total. Considering whites make up a larger portion of the population than blacks, it's going to be higher. Not only that, now we have crime statistics being altered to try to close the gap, but that's a different discussion. Per capita, there is a noticeable difference. Cal is right in that most of this crime is coming out of 4 or 5 cities.

I know it's not 4 times higher per capita.  Duh!  There are 4 times as many white people in this country than black people.  White on black crime is 4 times as prevalent as black on white crime.  I'm not saying white people commit more crimes against black people per capita.  I'm saying the stats line up with the population percentages.  "4 times as prevalent" means that for every black on white crime, there are 4 white on black crimes.  It lines up with the population percentages, and the idea that black are disproportionately attacking white people is not true.

Blacks commit half of the murders, half the armed robberies, and half the assaults, along with 45 percent of the prostitution arrests. Black crime is the problem, regardless of whether they attack blacks, whites or any other racial group.

(08-25-2024, 01:23 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-25-2024, 12:16 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]That has nothing to do with segregation.

Sure it does. Segregation kept us away from one another. And for good reason.

In the long run, it's done more harm than good. We can pretend it hasn't. I won't.

The majority of blacks and whites do not get along. Crime statistics support this as a fact.

Go look online. How many times do you find a group of white kids ganging up on a black kid?

Now, how many times do you see a group of black kids ganging up on a white kid?

How much crime is black on white? Versus white on black?

Again, maybe it was for the best.

We have failed as a society. Time to admit it and move the [BLEEP] on.

Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

WOW!  You really need to check yourself.  You like many others have confused economic status with race and unfortunately went completely off the rails.