(09-13-2024, 12:36 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2024, 12:28 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I'm only trying to talk about what different laws say. They are confusing. There are about 50 different definitions of abortion out there now.
That's unnecessary. I thought you were better than that.
You gotta admit, that was a pretty good burn though. I sure lol'd
Right because every discussion of life or death issues should have a few personal insults.
(09-13-2024, 12:39 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2024, 12:36 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]You gotta admit, that was a pretty good burn though. I sure lol'd
Right because every discussion of life or death issues should have a few personal insults.
No, but makes them more tolerable..
(09-13-2024, 11:37 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2024, 11:32 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]You need to chill and let Mike tell you about your body and how it works lololol
Maybe his uterus just works differently than mine.
https://youtu.be/4gPJQr3Q7fc?si=LliDMIEYfc1UGyHc
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(09-10-2024, 09:31 PM)EricC85 Wrote: [ -> ]There’s that horid laugh
So sad that repuges make fun of someone that's happy.
Don't be mad that your orange pokemon leader is a madman
I think we found Mike's alt account hahaha
(09-13-2024, 01:18 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]So sad that repuges make fun of someone that's happy.
Don't be mad that your orange pokemon leader is a madman
TDS , you didn't have to add the O and extra S. Buuuhwwhaahaaa!!
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(09-13-2024, 01:24 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2024, 01:18 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]So sad that repuges make fun of someone that's happy.
Don't be mad that your orange pokemon leader is a madman
TDS , you didn't have to add the O and extra S. Buuuhwwhaahaaa!!
They just write themselves sometimes lolol
(09-13-2024, 08:50 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2024, 08:46 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]And just how the [BLEEP] do you know? Lol.
Research. I read publications from both pro life and pro choice sources.
There are many other misconceptions in the abortion debate.
Something like 3/4 of the women who get abortions are 22 or older, and about the same fraction are mothers already. They aren't the stereotypical childless cat ladies.
Yeah, so anyway, according to just released analysis of records from the Minnesota Department of Health 5 children were born alive and survived an attempted induced abortion in the year 2021; all five were left to die. So the facts are that children who survive the in utero murder attempts are outright killed after they make it into the world. And those murder attempts happen...in late term preganancies to viable children where there's no outsized danger to the life of the mother...the kind where you say that they just don't do that.
I personally am against abortion except in the very rare case of the mother's or baby's life being in jeopardy. The mother being perhaps a drug addict or unable to support a child is not a valid reason. There are other more humane alternatives.
I could probably accept abortion in the very rare case of incest, or perhaps in the case of rape.
I really can't think of any other case where abortion might be the right choice.
It is my perception that the majority of liberal women that are so "pro-choice" want abortion on demand no matter the term as a method of "birth control". To me that is so wrong on so many levels.
(09-13-2024, 02:56 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]I personally am against abortion except in the very rare case of the mother's or baby's life being in jeopardy. The mother being perhaps a drug addict or unable to support a child is not a valid reason. There are other more humane alternatives.
I could probably accept abortion in the very rare case of incest, or perhaps in the case of rape.
I really can't think of any other case where abortion might be the right choice.
It is my perception that the majority of liberal women that are so "pro-choice" want abortion on demand no matter the term as a method of "birth control". To me that is so wrong on so many levels.
I actually support immediate abortion in the case of incest and/or rape. Although some clear lines must be in place, I believe that lesser damage is done to the unborn rather than the victim who must already live with horrific trauma.
(09-13-2024, 02:56 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]I personally am against abortion except in the very rare case of the mother's or baby's life being in jeopardy. The mother being perhaps a drug addict or unable to support a child is not a valid reason. There are other more humane alternatives.
I could probably accept abortion in the very rare case of incest, or perhaps in the case of rape.
I really can't think of any other case where abortion might be the right choice.
It is my perception that the majority of liberal women that are so "pro-choice" want abortion on demand no matter the term as a method of "birth control". To me that is so wrong on so many levels.
Early pregnancy, a fetus cannot think or feel. What's so wrong?
It's so weird that those people that are so against abortions only care once that person comes to life than after that they dont give a [BLEEP].
(09-13-2024, 02:35 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2024, 08:50 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Research. I read publications from both pro life and pro choice sources.
There are many other misconceptions in the abortion debate.
Something like 3/4 of the women who get abortions are 22 or older, and about the same fraction are mothers already. They aren't the stereotypical childless cat ladies.
Yeah, so anyway, according to just released analysis of records from the Minnesota Department of Health 5 children were born alive and survived an attempted induced abortion in the year 2021; all five were left to die. So the facts are that children who survive the in utero murder attempts are outright killed after they make it into the world. And those murder attempts happen...in late term preganancies to viable children where there's no outsized danger to the life of the mother...the kind where you say that they just don't do that.
Ok, you got any links to that?
(09-13-2024, 05:09 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2024, 02:56 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]I personally am against abortion except in the very rare case of the mother's or baby's life being in jeopardy. The mother being perhaps a drug addict or unable to support a child is not a valid reason. There are other more humane alternatives.
I could probably accept abortion in the very rare case of incest, or perhaps in the case of rape.
I really can't think of any other case where abortion might be the right choice.
It is my perception that the majority of liberal women that are so "pro-choice" want abortion on demand no matter the term as a method of "birth control". To me that is so wrong on so many levels.
Early pregnancy, a fetus cannot think or feel. What's so wrong?
It's so weird that those people that are so against abortions only care once that person comes to life than after that they dont give a [BLEEP].
Adopted not one but two children in crisis. Try again.
(09-13-2024, 06:01 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2024, 02:35 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, so anyway, according to just released analysis of records from the Minnesota Department of Health 5 children were born alive and survived an attempted induced abortion in the year 2021; all five were left to die. So the facts are that children who survive the in utero murder attempts are outright killed after they make it into the world. And those murder attempts happen...in late term preganancies to viable children where there's no outsized danger to the life of the mother...the kind where you say that they just don't do that.
Ok, you got any links to that?
Here you go Mike. It was tough to find. I typed in "Minnesota Department of Health 5 children were born alive" (actually I copied and pasted.)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/claims-childr...53629.html
(09-13-2024, 12:28 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2024, 11:32 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]You need to chill and let Mike tell you about your body and how it works lololol
I'm only trying to talk about what different laws say. They are confusing. There are about 50 different definitions of abortion out there now.
(09-13-2024, 11:37 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe his uterus just works differently than mine.
That's unnecessary. I thought you were better than that.
It’s 2024. Dudes can have uteruses, chicks can have penises now. My side didn’t make the rules. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
(09-13-2024, 07:53 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2024, 12:28 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I'm only trying to talk about what different laws say. They are confusing. There are about 50 different definitions of abortion out there now.
That's unnecessary. I thought you were better than that.
It’s 2024. Dudes can have uteruses, chicks can have penises now. My side didn’t make the rules. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
Damn girl! You are on fire!
Been a while since I visited down here. Last time Biden was calling Zelensky Putin. Kinda a lot happened since!
I've been following along with the election campaigning but find every bit of coverage comes with the Pro Trump or Pro Harris angle of why they are great and the other side is terrible
How many of you would say your undecided still? Know there's still a long time to go.