09-19-2024, 09:27 PM
09-19-2024, 09:41 PM
This cover up makes Watergate child's play
09-20-2024, 10:50 AM
(09-19-2024, 09:27 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ](09-19-2024, 08:55 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/...oF-wQ&s=19
Shocked, I’m shocked I say!
Why?
It's a federal investigation. The FBI links with state and local authorities through a protocol long in place.
The state police can't just show up at a federal crime scene and start their own investigation. Doesn't work that way.
That's just DeSantis clowning for the camera as usual. Zero substance, all political theater with that one.
09-20-2024, 11:10 AM
(09-20-2024, 10:50 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ](09-19-2024, 09:27 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]Shocked, I’m shocked I say!
Why?
It's a federal investigation. The FBI links with state and local authorities through a protocol long in place.
The state police can't just show up at a federal crime scene and start their own investigation. Doesn't work that way.
That's just DeSantis clowning for the camera as usual. Zero substance, all political theater with that one.
The FBI doesn’t like to share with anyone, ever. lol
09-20-2024, 01:52 PM
(09-20-2024, 10:50 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ](09-19-2024, 09:27 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]Shocked, I’m shocked I say!
Why?
It's a federal investigation. The FBI links with state and local authorities through a protocol long in place.
The state police can't just show up at a federal crime scene and start their own investigation. Doesn't work that way.
That's just DeSantis clowning for the camera as usual. Zero substance, all political theater with that one.
You’re missing the point. Do you trust the FBI to conduct an unbiased thorough investigation? Could the FBI survive an FBI investigation?
09-20-2024, 02:02 PM
(09-20-2024, 01:52 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ](09-20-2024, 10:50 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Why?
It's a federal investigation. The FBI links with state and local authorities through a protocol long in place.
The state police can't just show up at a federal crime scene and start their own investigation. Doesn't work that way.
That's just DeSantis clowning for the camera as usual. Zero substance, all political theater with that one.
You’re missing the point. Do you trust the FBI to conduct an unbiased thorough investigation? Could the FBI survive an FBI investigation?
LOL
Yes, I do
You lot are so gullible you don't realize this whole "distrust of the FBI" horse [BLEEP] was manufactured by orange clown because they were investigating him on multiple infractions and of course the cult took the bait.
(09-20-2024, 11:10 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ](09-20-2024, 10:50 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Why?
It's a federal investigation. The FBI links with state and local authorities through a protocol long in place.
The state police can't just show up at a federal crime scene and start their own investigation. Doesn't work that way.
That's just DeSantis clowning for the camera as usual. Zero substance, all political theater with that one.
The FBI doesn’t like to share with anyone, ever. lol
It's not about "liking" to share
It is a protocol that has been in place for decades
09-20-2024, 02:15 PM
(09-20-2024, 02:02 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ](09-20-2024, 01:52 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ]You’re missing the point. Do you trust the FBI to conduct an unbiased thorough investigation? Could the FBI survive an FBI investigation?
LOL
Yes, I do
You lot are so gullible you don't realize this whole "distrust of the FBI" horse [BLEEP] was manufactured by orange clown because they were investigating him on multiple infractions and of course the cult took the bait.
(09-20-2024, 11:10 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]The FBI doesn’t like to share with anyone, ever. lol
It's not about "liking" to share
It is a protocol that has been in place for decades
Your timeline is completely wrong. I didn’t trust the FBI long before there was an Orangeman. His presence merely confirmed my suspicions. The evidence is there if you want to see it. Same for the CIA.
09-20-2024, 02:20 PM
(09-20-2024, 10:50 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ](09-19-2024, 09:27 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]Shocked, I’m shocked I say!
Why?
It's a federal investigation. The FBI links with state and local authorities through a protocol long in place.
The state police can't just show up at a federal crime scene and start their own investigation. Doesn't work that way.
That's just DeSantis clowning for the camera as usual. Zero substance, all political theater with that one.
There were multiple crimes that this perp committed that are state felonies, not federal. Jurisdiction is everything. Since it took place on public/private property not on federal property the highest jurisdiction is actually the county sheriff, then the state police.
Believe it or not, the state can charge him and prosecute for far more and more serious crimes than the federal government can.
09-20-2024, 02:27 PM
(09-20-2024, 02:20 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ](09-20-2024, 10:50 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Why?
It's a federal investigation. The FBI links with state and local authorities through a protocol long in place.
The state police can't just show up at a federal crime scene and start their own investigation. Doesn't work that way.
That's just DeSantis clowning for the camera as usual. Zero substance, all political theater with that one.
There were multiple crimes that this perp committed that are state felonies, not federal. Jurisdiction is everything. Since it took place on public/private property not on federal property the highest jurisdiction is actually the county sheriff, then the state police.
Believe it or not, the state can charge him and prosecute for far more and more serious crimes than the federal government can.
that's horse [BLEEP] when it gets deemed a threat to former POTUS and you know it
09-20-2024, 02:36 PM
I think there's bigger fish to fry other than what agencies get to prosecute.. Follow the money.
https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1...GvPNw&s=19
How was Ryan Routh, “a man with no money for child support,” able to suddenly start living in a pricey house in Hawaii and afford flights to Taiwan, Turkey, Poland, Ukraine?
Why has Routh “never served a day in jail” when he has “100 different counts” to his name?
Why was Routh's fiance okay with him flying to Ukraine for months at a time?
How was he able to feed himself in Ukraine when he only had “$68 in [his] bank account.”
“And everywhere he goes, he gets press from the local papers to the New York Times to Newsweek.”
The whole thing stinks, and it suggests that someone other than his “fiance” was supporting him.
@JesseBWatters
https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1...GvPNw&s=19
How was Ryan Routh, “a man with no money for child support,” able to suddenly start living in a pricey house in Hawaii and afford flights to Taiwan, Turkey, Poland, Ukraine?
Why has Routh “never served a day in jail” when he has “100 different counts” to his name?
Why was Routh's fiance okay with him flying to Ukraine for months at a time?
How was he able to feed himself in Ukraine when he only had “$68 in [his] bank account.”
“And everywhere he goes, he gets press from the local papers to the New York Times to Newsweek.”
The whole thing stinks, and it suggests that someone other than his “fiance” was supporting him.
@JesseBWatters
09-20-2024, 02:49 PM
(09-20-2024, 02:36 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]I think there's bigger fish to fry other than what agencies get to prosecute.. Follow the money.
https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1836932...GvPNw&s=19
How was Ryan Routh, “a man with no money for child support,” able to suddenly start living in a pricey house in Hawaii and afford flights to Taiwan, Turkey, Poland, Ukraine?
Why has Routh “never served a day in jail” when he has “100 different counts” to his name?
Why was Routh's fiance okay with him flying to Ukraine for months at a time?
How was he able to feed himself in Ukraine when he only had “$68 in [his] bank account.”
“And everywhere he goes, he gets press from the local papers to the New York Times to Newsweek.”
The whole thing stinks, and it suggests that someone other than his “fiance” was supporting him.
@JesseBWatters
Nothing to see here, you know this. It’s all right wing propaganda and Fox news lies.
09-20-2024, 03:06 PM
(09-20-2024, 02:27 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ](09-20-2024, 02:20 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]There were multiple crimes that this perp committed that are state felonies, not federal. Jurisdiction is everything. Since it took place on public/private property not on federal property the highest jurisdiction is actually the county sheriff, then the state police.
Believe it or not, the state can charge him and prosecute for far more and more serious crimes than the federal government can.
that's horse [BLEEP] when it gets deemed a threat to former POTUS and you know it
I know what the law is and how jurisdiction works based on my way far back past working in law enforcement.
By my count (and I could be wrong on this) the only federal crimes that he could be charged with are as follows.
Possession of a firearm with the serial number removed.
Felon in possession of a firearm.
Threatening the life of a former POTUS.
In addition to the above charges (possibly minus the threat to the former POTUS) the state can also charge other crimes.
Driving a vehicle with a stolen license plate.
Evading or attempting to evade law enforcement.
Resisting arrest.
Also, serving a sentence in a state prison is far worse than serving a sentence in a federal prison.
09-20-2024, 07:19 PM
(09-20-2024, 02:36 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]I think there's bigger fish to fry other than what agencies get to prosecute.. Follow the money.Check his new wife out, as long as it was the right person. She works right next door to the feds.
https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1...GvPNw&s=19
How was Ryan Routh, “a man with no money for child support,” able to suddenly start living in a pricey house in Hawaii and afford flights to Taiwan, Turkey, Poland, Ukraine?
Why has Routh “never served a day in jail” when he has “100 different counts” to his name?
Why was Routh's fiance okay with him flying to Ukraine for months at a time?
How was he able to feed himself in Ukraine when he only had “$68 in [his] bank account.”
“And everywhere he goes, he gets press from the local papers to the New York Times to Newsweek.”
The whole thing stinks, and it suggests that someone other than his “fiance” was supporting him.
@JesseBWatters
(09-20-2024, 02:27 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]The feds haven't charged him with that. He supposedly didn't shoot first and may not have shot at all. While we know what he was doing, they can't really prove it without him saying it.(09-20-2024, 02:20 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]There were multiple crimes that this perp committed that are state felonies, not federal. Jurisdiction is everything. Since it took place on public/private property not on federal property the highest jurisdiction is actually the county sheriff, then the state police.
Believe it or not, the state can charge him and prosecute for far more and more serious crimes than the federal government can.
that's horse [BLEEP] when it gets deemed a threat to former POTUS and you know it
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09-20-2024, 07:35 PM
(09-20-2024, 03:06 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ](09-20-2024, 02:27 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]that's horse [BLEEP] when it gets deemed a threat to former POTUS and you know it
I know what the law is and how jurisdiction works based on my way far back past working in law enforcement.
By my count (and I could be wrong on this) the only federal crimes that he could be charged with are as follows.
Possession of a firearm with the serial number removed.
Felon in possession of a firearm.
Threatening the life of a former POTUS.
In addition to the above charges (possibly minus the threat to the former POTUS) the state can also charge other crimes.
Driving a vehicle with a stolen license plate.
Evading or attempting to evade law enforcement.
Resisting arrest.
Also, serving a sentence in a state prison is far worse than serving a sentence in a federal prison.
If Harris wins she will pardon him on the Federal crimes. The state needs to prosecute for the Sate crimes. The Pres can't pardon those.
09-20-2024, 08:34 PM
(09-20-2024, 07:35 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ](09-20-2024, 03:06 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]I know what the law is and how jurisdiction works based on my way far back past working in law enforcement.
By my count (and I could be wrong on this) the only federal crimes that he could be charged with are as follows.
Possession of a firearm with the serial number removed.
Felon in possession of a firearm.
Threatening the life of a former POTUS.
In addition to the above charges (possibly minus the threat to the former POTUS) the state can also charge other crimes.
Driving a vehicle with a stolen license plate.
Evading or attempting to evade law enforcement.
Resisting arrest.
Also, serving a sentence in a state prison is far worse than serving a sentence in a federal prison.
If Harris wins she will pardon him on the Federal crimes. The state needs to prosecute for the Sate crimes. The Pres can't pardon those.
You're confused, it's a common mistake.
The one who promises to pardon those who violently disrupt the election process is Trump, not Harris.
09-21-2024, 01:35 AM
(09-20-2024, 02:15 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ](09-20-2024, 02:02 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]LOL
Yes, I do
You lot are so gullible you don't realize this whole "distrust of the FBI" horse [BLEEP] was manufactured by orange clown because they were investigating him on multiple infractions and of course the cult took the bait.
It's not about "liking" to share
It is a protocol that has been in place for decades
Your timeline is completely wrong. I didn’t trust the FBI long before there was an Orangeman. His presence merely confirmed my suspicions. The evidence is there if you want to see it. Same for the CIA.
I'm old enough to remember the FBI verifying the Hunter laptop in 2019, but that information was suppressed when the major headline was "51 intelligence experts say this is most likely Russian disinformation." NYC is probably too young to remember that. Oh, and then there was that time Zuckerberg claimed the FBI reached out to him in 2020, telling him that mentions of Hunter's laptop was misinformation, and requested/suggested he suppress that information. Oh, and I almost forgot about that time Elon Musk turned over the twitter files to the public that showed the FBI also contacted them claiming it was disinformation, so Jack Dorsey also kept that information from being shared. I'm old enough to remember those tech bros saying they felt lied to by our agencies and wouldn't want to make the same mistake moving forward.
You know... I could swear these things didn't happen that long ago, yet some of our friends here can't seem to recall it. The only logical explanation is that our lefties and moderates are just way too young to remember those things. But, I mean... that's just one example. I'm sure I couldn't think of another, so I'll Epstein, I mean abstain from making any other points.
As to that other argument you guys are having, the Feds almost certainly get first rights to anyone attempting to kill the President. I don't know how or why that prevents FL from doing their own investigation, but that's not an area I feel comfortable making speculations.
09-21-2024, 10:27 AM
(09-20-2024, 03:06 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]Yes, tell us all about your vast experience working potential presidential assassination cases(09-20-2024, 02:27 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]that's horse [BLEEP] when it gets deemed a threat to former POTUS and you know it
I know what the law is and how jurisdiction works based on my way far back past working in law enforcement.
By my count (and I could be wrong on this) the only federal crimes that he could be charged with are as follows.
Possession of a firearm with the serial number removed.
Felon in possession of a firearm.
Threatening the life of a former POTUS.
In addition to the above charges (possibly minus the threat to the former POTUS) the state can also charge other crimes.
Driving a vehicle with a stolen license plate.
Evading or attempting to evade law enforcement.
Resisting arrest.
Also, serving a sentence in a state prison is far worse than serving a sentence in a federal prison.
09-21-2024, 10:50 AM
(09-16-2024, 05:52 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/kamalahq/status/1834...Ie5OPeqkhg(09-16-2024, 04:50 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]Could you give us names of current and/or former staffers with evidence of them being behind it?
The project might mention President Trump's name, but that doesn't really mean much.
What specific parts of it's strategy does he refer to in every one of his rallies? No taxes on tips? Secure the border? Begin deporting illegal aliens? No taxes on overtime?
It's about "defeating the deep state".
jib- i didn't bother to spoon feed you information readily available, but...
Here are a few of the dozens of names
https://www.newsweek.com/project-2025-tr...24-1925900
09-21-2024, 10:57 AM
(09-21-2024, 10:50 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ](09-16-2024, 05:52 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]It's about "defeating the deep state".https://twitter.com/kamalahq/status/1834...Ie5OPeqkhg
jib- i didn't bother to spoon feed you information readily available, but...
Here are a few of the dozens of names
https://www.newsweek.com/project-2025-tr...24-1925900
You realize this account has been busted for posting false info right?
Seeing where you get your news, no wonder you are a broken beta.
09-21-2024, 10:58 AM
Not sure how I feel about project 2025, yet. As I'm getting into it, there's definitely more hyperbole than I'd like in an academic paper.