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(11-10-2024, 10:43 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:40 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]No, it means coaching DOES matter. Leadership matters. Having a system that the players buy into matters. There’s been many instances where a coach was able to get more out of their team with lesser talent. To say coaching don’t matter is dumb.

To say coaching is the issue with this team is dumb. The coaching has repeatedly put the roster in position to win close games. The players have repeatedly [BLEEP] up those chances by doing really stupid [BLEEP] to lose games pretty much all year.

Dude, if you watch the games, it's obvious that the play calling and the play designs are neanderthal level.  This offense is trash.  Everyone knows what's going to happen on 1st or 2nd down.  This offensive coaching, playcalling, and play design is at the level of a thesaurus.  Bunch of cougars trying to survive against modern NFL offenses.
(11-10-2024, 10:47 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:43 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]To say coaching is the issue with this team is dumb. The coaching has repeatedly put the roster in position to win close games. The players have repeatedly [BLEEP] up those chances by doing really stupid [BLEEP] to lose games pretty much all year.
Wait a sec.  Why didnt the players put us in position to win close games?

They players dropped passes, missed blocks, and fumbled the ball. This is obvious to non-morons.
One could say the players put us in position to win close games and the coaches failed us with trash calls like a wheel route with the 3rd string RB for one example.
(11-10-2024, 10:48 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:43 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]To say coaching is the issue with this team is dumb. The coaching has repeatedly put the roster in position to win close games. The players have repeatedly [BLEEP] up those chances by doing really stupid [BLEEP] to lose games pretty much all year.

Dude, if you watch the games, it's obvious that the play calling and the play designs are neanderthal level.  This offense is trash.  Everyone knows what's going to happen on 1st or 2nd down.  This offensive coaching, playcalling, and play design is at the level of a thesaurus.  Bunch of cougars trying to survive against modern NFL offenses.

Lead the League in drops with a top 1o QB while the offense can't run for 3rd and 1. For [BLEEP]'s sake this is elementary stuff.
(11-10-2024, 10:43 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:40 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]No, it means coaching DOES matter. Leadership matters. Having a system that the players buy into matters. There’s been many instances where a coach was able to get more out of their team with lesser talent. To say coaching don’t matter is dumb.

To say coaching is the issue with this team is dumb. The coaching has repeatedly put the roster in position to win close games. The players have repeatedly [BLEEP] up those chances by doing really stupid [BLEEP] to lose games pretty much all year.

So, it was good coaching to call a wheel route to your 3rd string RB on 1st down on the 13 with 1:47 left to play? Is it good coaching to have your 2 best pass rushers on the sidelines during critical moments of the game? If the coaching is so damn good then why is the offense so slow to start games? Why does it take until the second half of games when we’re down 2 scores before [BLEEP] starts happening? Good coaching?
(11-10-2024, 10:49 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]One could say the players put us in position to win close games and the coaches failed us with trash calls like a wheel route with the 3rd string RB for one example.

Did the coaching drop the [BLEEP] ball on the 1 yard line in Miami week 1? Get outta here with your bull [BLEEP].
(11-10-2024, 10:49 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:47 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Wait a sec.  Why didnt the players put us in position to win close games?

They players dropped passes, missed blocks, and fumbled the ball. This is obvious to non-morons.

You are the only dummy on here that thinks coaching doesnt matter.  Its clear you have never played any sports to think that.
(11-10-2024, 10:50 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:43 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]To say coaching is the issue with this team is dumb. The coaching has repeatedly put the roster in position to win close games. The players have repeatedly [BLEEP] up those chances by doing really stupid [BLEEP] to lose games pretty much all year.

So, it was good coaching to call a wheel route to your 3rd string RB on 1st down on the 13 with 1:47 left to play? Is it good coaching to have your 2 best pass rushers on the sidelines during critical moments of the game? If the coaching is so damn good then why is the offense so slow to start games? Why does it take until the second half of games when we’re down 2 scores before [BLEEP] starts happening? Good coaching?

It was a specific situational call they worked on during the week. Does the weak RB bear no blame?

I don't thin the coaching is "so damn good", I simply don't think it's the primary problem. The lack of talent is the problem,
(11-10-2024, 10:51 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:49 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]One could say the players put us in position to win close games and the coaches failed us with trash calls like a wheel route with the 3rd string RB for one example.

Did the coaching drop the [BLEEP] ball on the 1 yard line in Miami week 1? Get outta here with your bull [BLEEP].

Every team turns the ball over.  Dont want to hear it.
(11-10-2024, 10:51 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:49 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]They players dropped passes, missed blocks, and fumbled the ball. This is obvious to non-morons.

You are the only dummy on here that thinks coaching doesnt matter.  Its clear you have never played any sports to think that.

Triple varsity letterman, but ok. None of that matters, I wasn't good enough to play in the pros and neither is about 1/3rd of this roster.
(11-10-2024, 10:53 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:50 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]So, it was good coaching to call a wheel route to your 3rd string RB on 1st down on the 13 with 1:47 left to play? Is it good coaching to have your 2 best pass rushers on the sidelines during critical moments of the game? If the coaching is so damn good then why is the offense so slow to start games? Why does it take until the second half of games when we’re down 2 scores before [BLEEP] starts happening? Good coaching?

It was a specific situational call they worked on during the week. Does the weak RB bear no blame?

I don't thin the coaching is "so damn good", I simply don't think it's the primary problem. The lack of talent is the problem,

Well now, that’s impossible. This is the greatest Jaguar roster ever assembled. /s
(11-10-2024, 10:54 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:51 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Did the coaching drop the [BLEEP] ball on the 1 yard line in Miami week 1? Get outta here with your bull [BLEEP].

Every team turns the ball over.  Dont want to hear it.

Ok, then there's no convincing you, That's ok, I've accepted that you are incapable of learning.

(11-10-2024, 10:55 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:53 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]It was a specific situational call they worked on during the week. Does the weak RB bear no blame?

I don't thin the coaching is "so damn good", I simply don't think it's the primary problem. The lack of talent is the problem,

Well now, that’s impossible. This is the greatest Jaguar roster ever assembled. /s

No, no...just fire Doug Pederson and we're the same as the chiefs...
(11-10-2024, 10:53 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:50 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]So, it was good coaching to call a wheel route to your 3rd string RB on 1st down on the 13 with 1:47 left to play? Is it good coaching to have your 2 best pass rushers on the sidelines during critical moments of the game? If the coaching is so damn good then why is the offense so slow to start games? Why does it take until the second half of games when we’re down 2 scores before [BLEEP] starts happening? Good coaching?

It was a specific situational call they worked on during the week. Does the weak RB bear no blame?

I don't thin the coaching is "so damn good", I simply don't think it's the primary problem. The lack of talent is the problem,

It worked against OUR defense.  The Eagles defense isnt the Jags defense and for Doug to think that it would work against their defense because it did against ours is another failure by the coach.
(11-10-2024, 10:55 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:54 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Every team turns the ball over.  Dont want to hear it.

Ok, then there's no convincing you, That's ok, I've accepted that you are incapable of learning.

(11-10-2024, 10:55 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]Well now, that’s impossible. This is the greatest Jaguar roster ever assembled. /s

No, no...just fire Doug Pederson and we're the same as the chiefs...

We wouldn’t be far behind them if we had Andy Reid on the sideline.
(11-10-2024, 10:57 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:55 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Ok, then there's no convincing you, That's ok, I've accepted that you are incapable of learning.


No, no...just fire Doug Pederson and we're the same as the chiefs...

We wouldn’t be far behind if we had Andy Reid on the sideline.

If Andy Reid was our coach we would have a winning record right now.  Doug isnt the only problem hes just part of the problem.
(11-10-2024, 10:57 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:55 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Ok, then there's no convincing you, That's ok, I've accepted that you are incapable of learning.


No, no...just fire Doug Pederson and we're the same as the chiefs...

We wouldn’t be far  behind them if we had Andy Reid on the sideline.

Maybe and I'd love to see that. However, that's an unknowable and only speculation.
(11-10-2024, 10:59 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:57 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]We wouldn’t be far behind if we had Andy Reid on the sideline.

If Andy Reid was our coach we would have a winning record right now.  Doug isnt the only problem hes just part of the problem.

It’s all a problem. The GM is incapable of putting together a competitive roster and the coach can’t get the team to be better than the sum of its parts. The fact that we’re heading toward another top 10 pick in 3 out of the 5 years that Baalke has been here should be more than enough to get him fired. Doug has checked out and has apparently been checked out since the second half of last season. There needs to be a total flush of everyone for the first time since Khan has owned the team.
(11-10-2024, 11:05 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:59 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]If Andy Reid was our coach we would have a winning record right now.  Doug isnt the only problem hes just part of the problem.

It’s all a problem. The GM is incapable of putting together a competitive roster and the coach can’t get the team to be better than the sum of its parts. The fact that we’re heading toward another top 10 pick in 3 out of the 5 years that Baalke has been here should be more than enough to get him fired. Doug has checked out and has apparently been checked out since the second half of last season. There needs to be a total flush of everyone for the first time since Khan has owned the team.

I don't think Pederson is checked out, the team is playing too hard for that. I think they're maxxed at their talent level an Pederson can't do any more with what he has here.
(11-10-2024, 11:05 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 10:59 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]If Andy Reid was our coach we would have a winning record right now.  Doug isnt the only problem hes just part of the problem.

It’s all a problem. The GM is incapable of putting together a competitive roster and the coach can’t get the team to be better than the sum of its parts. The fact that we’re heading toward another top 10 pick in 3 out of the 5 years that Baalke has been here should be more than enough to get him fired. Doug has checked out and has apparently been checked out since the second half of last season. There needs to be a total flush of everyone for the first time since Khan has owned the team.
Agreed but headed towards a top 10 pick?  We are headed towards the 1st overall pick once again for the 3rd time in 5 years lol.  That has never been done before.  We are on the way to just add to the records of suckage

(11-10-2024, 11:11 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 11:05 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]It’s all a problem. The GM is incapable of putting together a competitive roster and the coach can’t get the team to be better than the sum of its parts. The fact that we’re heading toward another top 10 pick in 3 out of the 5 years that Baalke has been here should be more than enough to get him fired. Doug has checked out and has apparently been checked out since the second half of last season. There needs to be a total flush of everyone for the first time since Khan has owned the team.

I don't think Pederson is checked out, the team is playing too hard for that. I think they're maxxed at their talent level an Pederson can't do any more with what he has here.
The players can still play hard with the coach being checked out.  Most players play for the name on the back of their jersey as well as for their next contract.
(11-10-2024, 11:31 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-10-2024, 11:05 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ]It’s all a problem. The GM is incapable of putting together a competitive roster and the coach can’t get the team to be better than the sum of its parts. The fact that we’re heading toward another top 10 pick in 3 out of the 5 years that Baalke has been here should be more than enough to get him fired. Doug has checked out and has apparently been checked out since the second half of last season. There needs to be a total flush of everyone for the first time since Khan has owned the team.
Agreed but headed towards a top 10 pick?  We are headed towards the 1st overall pick once again for the 3rd time in 5 years lol.  That has never been done before.  We are on the way to just add to the records of suckage

(11-10-2024, 11:11 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think Pederson is checked out, the team is playing too hard for that. I think they're maxxed at their talent level an Pederson can't do any more with what he has here.
The players can still play hard with the coach being checked out.  Most players play for the name on the back of their jersey as well as for their next contract.

No, no...I've been assured that coaching is the primary determining factor in whether or not a player plays hard. It's nonsensical to think that the coach quit and the players still play hard. it's one or the other, it can't be both.
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