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If a team did not react to there qb being hit like that there is serious trust and culture issues

(12-03-2024, 01:59 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]The title of this thread as well as the "article" linked by the OP is misleading.  I don't think that Coach Ryan was blaming Trevor at all.  He was actually trying to defend and justify his player's dirty hit.  Take a look at the transcript of his press conference and read his whole quote.  He talks about quarterbacks sliding in general and never once said that it was Trevor's fault.

Where I disagree with Coach Ryan is when he said that our team "over reacted" after the hit.

Quote:And the entire thing is Azeez – he hits the guy, but their sideline overreacts and it turns into a melee. It wasn't our guys. It's their team overreacted, pushed our guy, dragging our guy to the sideline, so that's uncalled for on that side. We have to be better on the sidelines, as well, with both teams.

If I was a coach I would be disappointed if my team didn't react that way to a dirty hit on our quarterback (or any other player for that matter).

He said QBs are trying to take advantage and that if you’re sliding you need to get down. So he’s blaming Trevor in a roundabout way.

(12-03-2024, 11:22 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-03-2024, 10:48 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Stroud said he thinks his teammate didn't mean to hurt Trevor, not that he didn't see anything wrong with the hit. He is the leader of their team, what do you expect him to say? I hope they ban our player?.

He definitely meant to do it.

Even if he didn't know he was sliding, what kind of tackle looks like that?

Don't hit a sliding QB has been in the league for years now and there are numerous examples every week of players not hitting a sliding QB.

I don't get those people in the media acting like this is some weird grey area of football. He crouched down, got that forearm in front and drove it into Trevors jaw. It was a dirty hit that was intended to hurt Trevor. He was probably aiming for the shoulder and hit him in the head instead.

(12-03-2024, 04:50 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-03-2024, 10:08 AM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]Not long enough. Jags need to quit being soft and next year go after someone on the texans

Or just beat their [BLEEP] into oblivion on the scoreboard and not sink to their level of dirty play.

Full on Ga Tech-Cumberland.

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Meh eye for eye. I don't condone being dirty for the sake of being dirty. But if someone does you wrong a message needs to be sent.

Dude, 90% of the main stream media outlets are siding with that piece of [BLEEP] tin horn. I've been at work listening to these [BLEEP] on ESPN and Fox News shift the blame. If this was any other QB in the NFL, these [BLEEP] would be freaking out about the brutality and cheap shot.

This is really un-real. I usually don't care about what the MSM/national media says about the Jaguars, because they don't watch our games. But the fact that they are now back pedaling on protecting the QB because it's a Jaguar QB... It's beyond frustrating.

The last straw for me was Tom Brady complaining about how hard it is for Defender. It's like you stupid [BLEEP], your entire career was enhanced by the rule changes that were implemented to protect YOU. [BLEEP] Tom Brady, man. Such a hypocrite.

(12-03-2024, 05:39 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Dude, 90% of the main stream media outlets are siding with that piece of [BLEEP] tin horn.  I've been at work listening to these [BLEEP] on ESPN and Fox News shift the blame.  If this was any other QB in the NFL, these [BLEEP] would be freaking out about the brutality and cheap shot.

This is really un-real.  I usually don't care about what the MSM/national media says about the Jaguars, because they don't watch our games.  But the fact that they are now back pedaling on protecting the QB because it's a Jaguar QB...  It's beyond frustrating.

The last straw for me was Tom Brady complaining about how hard it is for Defender.  It's like you stupid [BLEEP], your entire career was enhanced by the rule changes that were implemented to protect YOU.  [BLEEP] Tom Brady, man.  Such a hypocrite.

The immediate response by literally everyone, was that it was a cheap shot. You know by now, networks are probably just told to stir the pot for views/clicks/engagement. Initially though, literally everyone on the all the networks, even the guys that are very non pro-jag were against it. It's obvious. Don't let the media bait, bait you in.

edit- Even Mike freaking Florio was against it, and idk anyone who hates the Jags more lol.

(12-03-2024, 05:45 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-03-2024, 05:39 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Dude, 90% of the main stream media outlets are siding with that piece of [BLEEP] tin horn.  I've been at work listening to these [BLEEP] on ESPN and Fox News shift the blame.  If this was any other QB in the NFL, these [BLEEP] would be freaking out about the brutality and cheap shot.

This is really un-real.  I usually don't care about what the MSM/national media says about the Jaguars, because they don't watch our games.  But the fact that they are now back pedaling on protecting the QB because it's a Jaguar QB...  It's beyond frustrating.

The last straw for me was Tom Brady complaining about how hard it is for Defender.  It's like you stupid [BLEEP], your entire career was enhanced by the rule changes that were implemented to protect YOU.  [BLEEP] Tom Brady, man.  Such a hypocrite.

The immediate response by literally everyone, was that it was a cheap shot. You know by now, networks are probably just told to stir the pot for views/clicks/engagement. Initially though, literally everyone on the all the networks, even the guys that are very non pro-jag were against it. It's obvious. Don't let the media bait, bait you in.

edit- Even Mike freaking Florio was against it, and idk anyone who hates the Jags more lol.

LOL, I hear ya.  But it's just so frustrating to see the narrative shift...  It's just too much for me to handle.  Our player we in the fencing position.  He was seriously injured to the point that it may very well shorten his career.  And these [BLEEP] are now trying to downplay it, or even worse shift the blame.  It's hard to swallow right now.

Why would anyone listen to the national media when it comes to the Jags?

(12-03-2024, 05:50 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]Why would anyone listen to the national media when it comes to the Jags?

Uh, cuz there's only so much Jag content out there?  And I have a TV in my office?  And I don't watch MSM news?  And there's only so many episodes of Seinfeld, King of the Hill, Futurama, and Southpark that is aired at any given time?  They used to run DS9 on a loop on the British Broadcasting Network, but they changed that to Bones.  

Unfortunately, at some point I have to listen to Fox Sports and ESPN while I'm working...

tinhorns are a trash organization who made the same mistakes we did. They went all flash this offseason and neglected their o line… barely beat us with Mac jones at the helm. Their decline will continue. Might even lose out. Soon the shine of DeMeco Ryans will wear off just like it did for us and Pederson.

(12-03-2024, 08:35 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]https://dailysnark.com/2024/12/02/demeco...hFDqceUX4Q

What a piece of trash coach. 

Texans are officially my more hated team than the tacks.

The comments from their GM, Nick Caserio, were even more sickening. In addition to saying the suspension was too extreme, he talked about Al-Shaair as if he were a cross between Mother Teresa and Calais Campbell.

I haven’t gotten the sense the national media is pro tin horn here

- They’ve all said that Demeco is nuts if he thinks that our sideline reacted poorly.

- they’ve all said that the hit was clearly intentional

The only thing they’ve brought up is the QB faking the slide, but they didn’t reference Trevor as being a culprit in doing that.


Regardless the Texans are on the down slope, they are going to have a high draft pick, and a tough schedule next year and will probably be where we are at

(12-03-2024, 01:20 PM)MojoKing Wrote: [ -> ]If it were Mahomes , he’d be outta the league

I said to my husband today, "If it has been Tom Brady back in the day, or Patrick Mahomes now, that dude would be expelled the rest of the season. If he's lucky. And all these TV people saying it was a legal hit would be singing a different tune."

(12-03-2024, 11:40 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-03-2024, 01:20 PM)MojoKing Wrote: [ -> ]If it were Mahomes , he’d be outta the league

I said to my husband today, "If it has been Tom Brady back in the day, or Patrick Mahomes now, that dude would be expelled the rest of the season. If he's lucky. And all these TV people saying it was a legal hit would be singing a different tune."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqTmz_-scYA

Just made me instantly think of this hit. This hit wasn't even a flag and Brady got up clapping lol, it was a different game.

(12-03-2024, 05:21 PM)StrayaJag Wrote: [ -> ]If a team did not react to there qb being hit like that there is serious trust and culture issues

There was a scrum immediately following the hit. They reacted.

They chose not to take out their anger on an unrelated player. I don't see how taking a shot at Nico Collins, or Mixon, or even CJ for that matter gets any point across other than you're just as much an [BLEEP] as the subhuman who started this mess.

Azeez just needs to watch his [BLEEP] next season. He's the [BLEEP] with the target on his back.

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(12-03-2024, 05:35 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-03-2024, 04:50 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ]Or just beat their [BLEEP] into oblivion on the scoreboard and not sink to their level of dirty play.

Full on Ga Tech-Cumberland.

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Meh eye for eye. I don't condone being dirty for the sake of being dirty. But if someone does you wrong a message needs to be sent.

I'm all for taking it out on the culprit. He reaps what he sows. To just go after some rando in the same laundry is not justifiable.

(12-03-2024, 05:39 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Dude, 90% of the main stream media outlets are siding with that piece of [BLEEP] tin horn.  I've been at work listening to these [BLEEP] on ESPN and Fox News shift the blame.  If this was any other QB in the NFL, these [BLEEP] would be freaking out about the brutality and cheap shot.

This is really un-real.  I usually don't care about what the MSM/national media says about the Jaguars, because they don't watch our games.  But the fact that they are now back pedaling on protecting the QB because it's a Jaguar QB...  It's beyond frustrating.

The last straw for me was Tom Brady complaining about how hard it is for Defender.  It's like you stupid [BLEEP], your entire career was enhanced by the rule changes that were implemented to protect YOU.  [BLEEP] Tom Brady, man.  Such a hypocrite.

It's not hard for the defender. proper tackling form does not result in an elbow to the face.

When was the last time we saw Trevor fake a hook slide?

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(12-03-2024, 05:45 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-03-2024, 05:39 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]Dude, 90% of the main stream media outlets are siding with that piece of [BLEEP] tin horn.  I've been at work listening to these [BLEEP] on ESPN and Fox News shift the blame.  If this was any other QB in the NFL, these [BLEEP] would be freaking out about the brutality and cheap shot.

This is really un-real.  I usually don't care about what the MSM/national media says about the Jaguars, because they don't watch our games.  But the fact that they are now back pedaling on protecting the QB because it's a Jaguar QB...  It's beyond frustrating.

The last straw for me was Tom Brady complaining about how hard it is for Defender.  It's like you stupid [BLEEP], your entire career was enhanced by the rule changes that were implemented to protect YOU.  [BLEEP] Tom Brady, man.  Such a hypocrite.

The immediate response by literally everyone, was that it was a cheap shot. You know by now, networks are probably just told to stir the pot for views/clicks/engagement. Initially though, literally everyone on the all the networks, even the guys that are very non pro-jag were against it. It's obvious. Don't let the media bait, bait you in.

edit- Even Mike freaking Florio was against it, and idk anyone who hates the Jags more lol.

Zactly this. There may be plenty of guys who think the susp is correct, but they aren't going to make the news/feed.

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(12-03-2024, 11:40 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-03-2024, 01:20 PM)MojoKing Wrote: [ -> ]If it were Mahomes , he’d be outta the league

I said to my husband today, "If it has been Tom Brady back in the day, or Patrick Mahomes now, that dude would be expelled the rest of the season. If he's lucky. And all these TV people saying it was a legal hit would be singing a different tune."

Our best hope is that the susp puts a bit more focus on him now, refs will be less likely to benefit of the doubt with a repeat habitual offender.

Richard Sherman is yapping in Twitter like crazy claiming Trevor didn't slide early enough and claiming that the Texans would have preferred Trevor play the whole game because he's bad.

(12-04-2024, 02:48 PM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ]Richard Sherman is yapping in Twitter like crazy claiming Trevor didn't slide early enough and claiming that the Texans would have preferred Trevor play the whole game because he's bad.

For that particular game, he’s not wrong.

If Trevor "slid late," then it would be excusable to collide with him right after his butt hit the ground. It still wouldn't be legal to extend your arm in a way that hits the man in the head. It goes from being a late hit and targeting to just being targeting. Still illegal. Still might get fined or suspended.

(12-03-2024, 05:50 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]Why would anyone listen to the national media when it comes to the Jags?

To be fair, they have been right.

We all drunk the koolaid and thought they would be good this year.  The national media was saying we would be near the bottom and they are right.


I would love for Trevor Lawrence to be the Guy most of this message board see's him as.  There are voices in the national media who question if he will ever be a good consistent QB.  Those voices are getting louder and they maybe right.

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(12-04-2024, 02:56 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-04-2024, 02:48 PM)Khan Artist Wrote: [ -> ]Richard Sherman is yapping in Twitter like crazy claiming Trevor didn't slide early enough and claiming that the Texans would have preferred Trevor play the whole game because he's bad.

For that particular game, he’s not wrong.

Really?  Just that game?  Cmon man!

I already stated this earlier. The one stat that heavily effects if a team wins or loses regardless how good they are is the TURNOVER STAT> Lawrence by far leads the league since he was drafted. The excuses in year 4 are really getting thin.