(12-10-2024, 08:42 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2024, 12:17 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Right wing and Christian are not synonyms.
Not always, but in the Weimar German context, the Nazi, Protestant and Monarchist parties were the right wing, the Catholic party was the center and the Socialists were left. The parties I labelled right wing tended to vote together and they tended to vote against the Socialists.
Who cares what the right wing was in Germany? It's not the right wing in the US. Associating NAZI's with conservatives is the dumbest trick you "brainiacs" ever believed.
Look dude. The number one rule when you're attempting to understand information is to ask yourself the question, "Compared to what?" When we look at Germany, there was a communist threat, where the left was aggregating state power, promising to make all things equal, and attempting to replace German identity with a universal identity. The people didn't like it, so they said if we're going to use state power, let's use it to quash this new threat and maintain German identity. However, they replaced any right wing, individualist principles to defeat the immediate and pressing threat which was the communists. The adopted LEFTIST ideas and values to do so, making them far, far left of your average American.
Now, if you want to say history is repeating itself, go ahead. I was warning about this in 2016 when Trump was running for the first time. I've always said there's a real threat of fascism with Trump. That's because you idiots keep letting our leftists move too far to the left. The only way to defeat that power is with state power.
And let me be even more clear, since it's easy to get this confused. When I used right wing in the example above, it was in a modern US colloquial way. Right in the US is still left.
Honestly, I hate these terms. They're an oversimplification of realpolitik. Most people who use them don't know where they come from, what they mean, or how they are being exploited to invoke an emotional reaction.
I agree, I'm only using right wing in the context that a German in the 1920s or 1930s would have understood it.
The US conception of right wing today is very different for many reasons.
The only Fuentes I'm familiar with is Daisy
Gonna need pics. For research.
(12-08-2024, 06:26 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (12-07-2024, 11:17 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]But Neo-Nazis like Fuentes are good pro-Americans
Nazis are closer to the left but whatever. This guy is nothing but an actor that is grifting. He's not MAGA and most people don't know anything about him. He's got a small following that seems to have been elevated mainly by the left, they do that to try and tie MAGA to him.
If the rumors are true, he doesn't like women, not because of the reasons he says, but because he's into guys.
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He's not MAGA at all anymore, he was in 2016 and 2020. He actually spent a good portion of this year [BLEEP] on Trump as much as he could, even asking his followers NOT to vote at all because he felt Trump was Pro-Israel too much and he's an open antisemite. He was also majorly disappointed when Trump refused to support that Project 25 or whatever it was called that was getting paraded around as truth and all of Trump's doing. Which was fact checked by liberal media and conservative media multiple times, even during the final debate where Kamala kept bringing it up as a fear tactic.
He also got upset when Trump's views on legal immigration seemed to be different from his own. Basically Fuentes doesn't want anymore people of color in our country. Which is funny. Because, as his last name implies, he himself is of Latin descent.
To be fair. I don't follow him or his beliefs, BUT, I have seen some of his clippings and cut-up's on X and he's pretty good at speaking to his audience. He's crafty, well spoken, calculated and I can see why the younger crowd clings to him. Most of his audience in my opinion would fall in the 30 years or under crowd that have no hope for this country's future due to the overwhelming amount of corruption from both parties most of us have seen throughout our lifetime.
I think his views on putting your country first and avoiding the use and abuse of the American Tax Dollar for proxy wars and bogus wars are correct. I don't agree with his stance on Jews though.
(12-10-2024, 08:19 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Gonna need pics. For research.
You don't want to search for videos of this guy
(12-10-2024, 08:26 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ] (12-08-2024, 06:26 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]Nazis are closer to the left but whatever. This guy is nothing but an actor that is grifting. He's not MAGA and most people don't know anything about him. He's got a small following that seems to have been elevated mainly by the left, they do that to try and tie MAGA to him.
If the rumors are true, he doesn't like women, not because of the reasons he says, but because he's into guys.
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He's not MAGA at all anymore, he was in 2016 and 2020. He actually spent a good portion of this year [BLEEP] on Trump as much as he could, even asking his followers NOT to vote at all because he felt Trump was Pro-Israel too much and he's an open antisemite. He was also majorly disappointed when Trump refused to support that Project 25 or whatever it was called that was getting paraded around as truth and all of Trump's doing. Which was fact checked by liberal media and conservative media multiple times, even during the final debate where Kamala kept bringing it up as a fear tactic.
He also got upset when Trump's views on legal immigration seemed to be different from his own. Basically Fuentes doesn't want anymore people of color in our country. Which is funny. Because, as his last name implies, he himself is of Latin descent.
To be fair. I don't follow him or his beliefs, BUT, I have seen some of his clippings and cut-up's on X and he's pretty good at speaking to his audience. He's crafty, well spoken, calculated and I can see why the younger crowd clings to him. Most of his audience in my opinion would fall in the 30 years or under crowd that have no hope for this country's future due to the overwhelming amount of corruption from both parties most of us have seen throughout our lifetime.
I think his views on putting your country first and avoiding the use and abuse of the American Tax Dollar for proxy wars and bogus wars are correct. I don't agree with his stance on Jews though.
On the surface he has normal America first ideas but then he brings in hate and other stuff to make his listeners look crazy. It's why I think it's an act with all the MSM and other leftist coverage he gets. Then if he is successful in getting his listeners to believe, it helps to keep people divided.
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(12-07-2024, 01:06 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (12-07-2024, 12:46 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know who Nick Fuentes is, but the article on NBCNEWS says the "victim" was at his door filming after he got doxxed online (Including BY the victim several times according to the same article). Seems like she FOFA'd and he should be exonerated.
And I seriously doubt anyone is going to click a BlueSky link, so maybe pick your source better next time.
Winger previously showed a BlueSky post by a map (minor attracted person). BlueSky seems to fit in well with the far-left agenda.
Edit: I had no idea who Nick Fuentes was either until I looked him up a couple of months ago because I heard his name bandied about. He’s a far-right loon. So if the BlueSky loons want to battle the far-right loons, pass the popcorn.
You mean degenerate criminal and kid [BLEEP] piece of [BLEEP]?
(12-11-2024, 02:26 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2024, 08:19 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Gonna need pics. For research.
You don't want to search for videos of this guy
I was responding to Hurricane. Daisy Fuentes, bro. I don't care about Nick. At all. I remember Daisy Fuentes being so hot when I was younger. I just went back to look her up, and I'm not impressed. At least not in pictures. I wonder if she's one of those people that just carries sexiness in the way they move and talk.
Don't mind me, btw. I'm not trying to derail the thread. You guys can keep talking about the racists caricature of the right known as Nick Fuentes if you want.
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(12-09-2024, 11:17 AM)flsportsgod Wrote: [ -> ] Is he on their doorstep?
Geez dude, you really don't understand the concept of equivocation, do you. It's kinda sad that you try so hard a fail to score worse than Mikesez on prom night.
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Did that lady dox him or threaten him?
So no answer "flsportsgod"?
(12-12-2024, 08:01 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ][quote pid="1668550" dateline="1733761169"]
(12-09-2024, 11:17 AM)flsportsgod Wrote: [ -> ] Is he on their doorstep?
Geez dude, you really don't understand the concept of equivocation, do you. It's kinda sad that you try so hard a fail to score worse than Mikesez on prom night.
Did that lady dox him or threaten him?
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Why was she at his house? Selling Avon? Moonie? Jehovahs Witness? Did she just randomly go to his house without the intent to harass him?
(12-13-2024, 07:26 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-12-2024, 08:01 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ][quote pid="1668550" dateline="1733761169"]
Did that lady dox him or threaten him?
Why was she at his house? Selling Avon? Moonie? Jehovahs Witness? Did she just randomly go to his house without the intent to harass him?
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Doesn't matter. She didn't meet the standard of a credible threat, so Fuentes is going up the river.
(12-09-2024, 11:04 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (12-09-2024, 01:06 AM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]Nick Fuentes is a neo-Nazi. Are you saying he’s a Leftist?
NAZI's were left wing.
Oh, here we go with this ridiculous [BLEEP] again.
(12-10-2024, 08:42 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2024, 12:17 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Right wing and Christian are not synonyms.
Not always, but in the Weimar German context, the Nazi, Protestant and Monarchist parties were the right wing, the Catholic party was the center and the Socialists were left. The parties I labelled right wing tended to vote together and they tended to vote against the Socialists.
Nationalistic
Check
Scapegoating an ethnic minority/is
Check
Militaristic
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Hero worship of populist politicians
Check
If the jack boot fits
You don't know what the [BLEEP] you're talking about.
(12-13-2024, 10:24 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2024, 08:42 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Not always, but in the Weimar German context, the Nazi, Protestant and Monarchist parties were the right wing, the Catholic party was the center and the Socialists were left. The parties I labelled right wing tended to vote together and they tended to vote against the Socialists.
Nationalistic
Check
Scapegoating an ethnic minority/is
Check
Militaristic
Check
Hero worship of populist politicians
Check
If the jack boot fits
US nationalism and German nationalism are very different, and the Democrats are almost as nationalist as the Republicans.
Trump isn't scapegoating minorities.
Trump likes military parades and military order but he's not seriously threatening to full-scale invade our neighbors.
The Democrats also try to get us to worship their Presidential candidates. Some are successful with some people. Remember Obama?
(12-10-2024, 09:17 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2024, 08:42 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Not always, but in the Weimar German context, the Nazi, Protestant and Monarchist parties were the right wing, the Catholic party was the center and the Socialists were left. The parties I labelled right wing tended to vote together and they tended to vote against the Socialists.
Who cares what the right wing was in Germany? It's not the right wing in the US. Associating NAZI's with conservatives is the dumbest trick you "brainiacs" ever believed.
Look dude. The number one rule when you're attempting to understand information is to ask yourself the question, "Compared to what?" When we look at Germany, there was a communist threat, where the left was aggregating state power, promising to make all things equal, and attempting to replace German identity with a universal identity. The people didn't like it, so they said if we're going to use state power, let's use it to quash this new threat and maintain German identity. However, they replaced any right wing, individualist principles to defeat the immediate and pressing threat which was the communists. The adopted LEFTIST ideas and values to do so, making them far, far left of your average American.
Now, if you want to say history is repeating itself, go ahead. I was warning about this in 2016 when Trump was running for the first time. I've always said there's a real threat of fascism with Trump. That's because you idiots keep letting our leftists move too far to the left. The only way to defeat that power is with state power.
If people can fall for trump , they can (and did) fall for a Hitler. I would hate to see what Americans would fall for if times were TRULY bad in America, as they were in Germany in the 1930s....
By the way, the plural of "Nazi" is "Nazis." No apostrophe is necessary.
Y'all done went off the rails of the crazy train.
(12-13-2024, 10:47 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ] (12-10-2024, 09:17 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Who cares what the right wing was in Germany? It's not the right wing in the US. Associating NAZI's with conservatives is the dumbest trick you "brainiacs" ever believed.
Look dude. The number one rule when you're attempting to understand information is to ask yourself the question, "Compared to what?" When we look at Germany, there was a communist threat, where the left was aggregating state power, promising to make all things equal, and attempting to replace German identity with a universal identity. The people didn't like it, so they said if we're going to use state power, let's use it to quash this new threat and maintain German identity. However, they replaced any right wing, individualist principles to defeat the immediate and pressing threat which was the communists. The adopted LEFTIST ideas and values to do so, making them far, far left of your average American.
Now, if you want to say history is repeating itself, go ahead. I was warning about this in 2016 when Trump was running for the first time. I've always said there's a real threat of fascism with Trump. That's because you idiots keep letting our leftists move too far to the left. The only way to defeat that power is with state power.
If people can fall for trump , they can (and did) fall for a Hitler. I would hate to see what Americans would fall for if times were TRULY bad in America, as they were in Germany in the 1930s....
By the way, the plural of "Nazi" is "Nazis." No apostrophe is necessary.
If you weren't some random cry hard that is only frequenting this board to whine about Trump, you would know that I have said as much about Trump. The conditions are similar enough to be concerned about the people looking for a strongman to stand against the forces that are dismantling their culture. Hell, you should have been able to infer as much from that post you quoted, but that's probably asking a bit much.
And I guess nazis is plural if you only see it as a pejorative to be slung at your opponents, but the fact of the matter is that is' an acronym. (Na)tionalSo(zi)alistische, which stands for National
Socialist party. I noticed you forgot that bolded part in your mischaracterization of the American right.