Quote:If, in 2008, when Matt Gaetz was arrested for DUI, he had a premonition that one day he would be publicly humiliated, scorned and cast out of politics forever, he would have been really sad.
Rich kid syndrome: “Daddy will take care of it, at least until I am of age. Then I’ll still do whatever I want anyway. Let them try to catch me.”
(12-23-2024, 02:07 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (12-23-2024, 01:46 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]If she did indeed have a fake id and claimed to be of age, it is a valid defense.
That is not a valid defense in the state of Florida.
Is ignorance to age a defense to sexual abuse in Florida? | Rossen Law Firm
Florida law doesn’t care whether or not you thought the person you were having sexual relations with was 18 years old or older. Florida law and Florida state prosecutors care about the actual age of the victim – regardless of how old you thought they were – when it comes to sexual abuse or sexual assault charges in Florida.
Even if someone knowingly provided a fake id? Are you supposed to run a background check?
I used my cousins id in college because we could be twins. I wasn’t trying to hook up with old dudes, I just wanted to drink like every other person on campus. Should someone go to jail because I lied about my age with proof to back it up?
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Party of Christianity and morals who sit atop their high horse while preaching to all Americans.
Family values.
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All that crap from Q about Democrats being pedophiles and then we hear this?
Can't make this stuff up
(12-23-2024, 10:50 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-23-2024, 02:07 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]That is not a valid defense in the state of Florida.
Is ignorance to age a defense to sexual abuse in Florida? | Rossen Law Firm
Florida law doesn’t care whether or not you thought the person you were having sexual relations with was 18 years old or older. Florida law and Florida state prosecutors care about the actual age of the victim – regardless of how old you thought they were – when it comes to sexual abuse or sexual assault charges in Florida.
Even if someone knowingly provided a fake id? Are you supposed to run a background check?
I used my cousins id in college because we could be twins. I wasn’t trying to hook up with old dudes, I just wanted to drink like every other person on campus. Should someone go to jail because I lied about my age with proof to back it up?
Prosecutorial discretion is a thing.
Most of these kinds of situations, the authorities never even find out, and the ones they do, they can decide to look the other way.
But the law is written that way so when you find a creep who was way older and definitely abused his power against someone who was not ready for the real world, he won't be allowed to say, "I didn't know.." in court.
(12-23-2024, 11:17 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't that the 17 year old that had an offical fake ID provided by the state of Florida?
Someone is mad Gaetz is a confirmed sleeze of a criminal along with the malignant narcissist scumbag piece of [BLEEP] liar grifter rapist seditionist felon serial adulterer and tax cheat. Must deflect
(12-23-2024, 10:50 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-23-2024, 02:07 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]That is not a valid defense in the state of Florida.
Is ignorance to age a defense to sexual abuse in Florida? | Rossen Law Firm
Florida law doesn’t care whether or not you thought the person you were having sexual relations with was 18 years old or older. Florida law and Florida state prosecutors care about the actual age of the victim – regardless of how old you thought they were – when it comes to sexual abuse or sexual assault charges in Florida.
Even if someone knowingly provided a fake id? Are you supposed to run a background check?
I used my cousins id in college because we could be twins. I wasn’t trying to hook up with old dudes, I just wanted to drink like every other person on campus. Should someone go to jail because I lied about my age with proof to back it up?
Not knowing you broke the law isn't a defense for breaking the law. It seems a tad unfair and perhaps the establishment has failed in its duty of care by allowing minors on premises.
(12-23-2024, 11:59 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ] (12-23-2024, 11:17 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Isn't that the 17 year old that had an offical fake ID provided by the state of Florida?
Someone is mad Gaetz is a confirmed sleeze of a criminal along with the malignant narcissist scumbag piece of [BLEEP] liar grifter rapist seditionist felon serial adulterer and tax cheat. Must deflect
I don't give two [BLEEP] what you think, your brain is diseased with a dying ideology.. We voted your kind out and soon will be a distant memory because either you'll end up in prison or you'll abort your bloodlines into oblivion..
Merry Christmas, twink..
(12-24-2024, 12:07 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (12-23-2024, 11:59 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]Someone is mad Gaetz is a confirmed sleeze of a criminal along with the malignant narcissist scumbag piece of [BLEEP] liar grifter rapist seditionist felon serial adulterer and tax cheat. Must deflect
I don't give two [BLEEP] what you think, your brain is diseased with a dying ideology.. We voted your kind out and soon will be a distant memory because either you'll end up in prison or you'll abort your bloodlines into oblivion..
Merry Christmas, twink..
Ooh, go ahead and tell us! We need a juicy new conspiracy theory. Hopefully you can work in some migrant caravans and CRT to take the heat off Matt Gaetz.
(12-24-2024, 12:16 AM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2024, 12:07 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]I don't give two [BLEEP] what you think, your brain is diseased with a dying ideology.. We voted your kind out and soon will be a distant memory because either you'll end up in prison or you'll abort your bloodlines into oblivion..
Merry Christmas, twink..
Ooh, go ahead and tell us! We need a juicy new conspiracy theory. Hopefully you can work in some migrant caravans and CRT to take the heat off Matt Gaetz.
Don't give a [BLEEP] about Gaetz.. He's a lost cause. We have bigger fish to fry, like your whole All-Star line up in DC and all the purple and blue haired freaks that like to play pretend. You're a dying breed and your ideals are the afterbirth of dying society.. You hold no power here..
(12-24-2024, 12:25 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2024, 12:16 AM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]Ooh, go ahead and tell us! We need a juicy new conspiracy theory. Hopefully you can work in some migrant caravans and CRT to take the heat off Matt Gaetz.
Don't give a [BLEEP] about Gaetz.. He's a lost cause. We have bigger fish to fry, like your whole All-Star line up in DC and all the purple and blue haired freaks that like to play pretend. You're a dying breed and your ideals are the afterbirth of dying society.. You hold no power here..
Gaetz was one of trump's self-described "all-star" cabinet picks.
(12-24-2024, 12:40 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2024, 12:35 AM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]Gaetz was one of trump's self-described "all-star" cabinet picks.
&?
Post #45
Trump's wanting Gaetz to be the Attorney General shows horrendous judgment on trump's part and calls into question trump's other selections for high-level positions.
(12-24-2024, 12:45 AM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2024, 12:40 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]&?
Post #45
Trump's wanting Gaetz to be the Attorney General shows horrendous judgment on trump's part
Let's not get into horrendous judgement.. It was horrendous judgement to install a VP because of DEI.. It was horrendous judgement to leave our borders unsecure, it was horrendous judgement to give our money to Ukraine and it was horrendous judgement for your parents to skip the abortion.
Plenty of horrendous judgement going around.
(12-24-2024, 12:49 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2024, 12:45 AM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]Post #45
Trump's wanting Gaetz to be the Attorney General shows horrendous judgment on trump's part
Let's not get into horrendous judgement.. It was horrendous judgement to install a VP because of DEI.. It was horrendous judgement to leave our borders unsecure, it was horrendous judgement to give our money to Ukraine and it was horrendous judgement for your parents to skip the abortion.
Plenty of horrendous judgement going around.
None of these (proved, not proved) is on the level of "horrendous", which aptly describes trump's decision that he wanted known serial sexual predator Gaetz to be his Attorney General.
Trump gave all of us the middle finger with his "all-star" pick of Gaetz. And you just have to take it all like a cult MAGA that you are.
(12-24-2024, 12:57 AM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2024, 12:49 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]Let's not get into horrendous judgement.. It was horrendous judgement to install a VP because of DEI.. It was horrendous judgement to leave our borders unsecure, it was horrendous judgement to give our money to Ukraine and it was horrendous judgement for your parents to skip the abortion.
Plenty of horrendous judgement going around.
None of these (proved, not proved) is on the level of "horrendous", which aptly describes trump's decision that he wanted known serial sexual predator Gaetz to be his Attorney General.
Trump gave all of us the middle finger with his "all-star" pick of Gaetz. And you just have to take it all like a cult MAGA that you are.
I don't give a flying [BLEEP] what you think. Matter of fact, your pedo brain is so [BLEEP] up that literally anything you say, the direct opposite would be for the betterment of our country.. Nothing you say is worth a [BLEEP], which in retrospective, is worth more than you are as a physical sub human being.
If anyone is considered to be in a cult, that would be you and your ilk, Pete.. Most of the country voted for Trump, but I think you’re closer to a sect than a cult. You're classified as a sub-group which only holds a smaller fraction of voters.
As I said earlier, you and your ilk hold no power any longer. Our great nation has already started to heal.. Which is the very reason why I came around on the abortion issue itself.. This world just doesn't need you or your ideals, and with your ilk in power, you just gave the world Monkey Pox.. Trump is definitely your dose of pedocillin.
Enjoy the ride, Pete..
(12-24-2024, 01:27 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2024, 12:57 AM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]None of these (proved, not proved) is on the level of "horrendous", which aptly describes trump's decision that he wanted known serial sexual predator Gaetz to be his Attorney General.
Trump gave all of us the middle finger with his "all-star" pick of Gaetz. And you just have to take it all like a cult MAGA that you are.
and your ilk,
As I said earlier, you and your ilk ..
This world just doesn't need you or your ideals, and with your ilk
Florida Sports God is going to be very upset that you stole his strong worthy word that he uses against those libruls. You wait and see.
(12-24-2024, 01:33 AM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2024, 01:27 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] and your ilk,
As I said earlier, you and your ilk ..
This world just doesn't need you or your ideals, and with your ilk
Florida Sports God is going to be very upset that you stole his strong worthy word that he uses against those libruls. You wait and see.
Why not just look the word up in a dictionary if it confuses you that much..
(12-24-2024, 01:33 AM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2024, 01:27 AM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ] and your ilk,
As I said earlier, you and your ilk ..
This world just doesn't need you or your ideals, and with your ilk
Florida Sports God is going to be very upset that you stole his strong worthy word that he uses against those libruls. You wait and see.
I'm not upset at his judicious and appropriate use of the word. All we see is that you have a significant mental issue.
(12-24-2024, 01:58 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2024, 01:33 AM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]Florida Sports God is going to be very upset that you stole his strong worthy word that he uses against those libruls. You wait and see.
I'm not upset at his judicious and appropriate use of the word. All we see is that you have a significant mental issue.
Says a supporter of a predator. Sick burn!
(12-24-2024, 02:11 AM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ] (12-24-2024, 01:58 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not upset at his judicious and appropriate use of the word. All we see is that you have a significant mental issue.
Says a supporter of a predator. Sick burn!
You waited. You saw. You suck. Pretty standard for you around here.