Quote:Trump has a similar scandal called "pay and send me a bill which you may or may not be paid for" (unless you are investigating me, in which case you will get a campaign donation and a discounted rate at the fabulous Mar-a-Lago resort).
is this the one about the Florida AG or whatever?
If you're happy with trump for being corrupt, what makes Hillary worse?
You make no sense, jw
i dont think you understand what corruption is. she works for the government. it's quite the difference to be selling policy on the tax payers dime vs a private business man trying to get ahead.
plus you freak out over a $25k donation vs millions of dollars from multiple donors all getting favors. it's not even close to the same thing.
Quote:i dont think you understand what corruption is. she works for the government. it's quite the difference to be selling policy on the tax payers dime vs a private business man trying to get ahead.
plus you freak out over a $25k donation vs millions of dollars from multiple donors all getting favors. it's not even close to the same thing.
Wait, so paying off a politician is not corruption, so long as you are the one doing the corrupting?
Wow, you guys are flailing now!
Quote:Wait, so paying off a politician is not corruption, so long as you are the one doing the corrupting?
Wow, you guys are flailing now!
ya im really flailing over 25k. couldn't be more insignificant especially when compared to Clinton's cash flowing through that thing she calls a charitable organization
Quote:Wait, so paying off a politician is not corruption, so long as you are the one doing the corrupting?
Wow, you guys are flailing now!
There is certainly a difference between taking $100m+ from foreign entities, banks, and wall-street execs and giving them special access, and being a private businessman donating $25k to a SAG.
TAM'S J-dub impression is nearing perfection up in here. If you use her avi no one would be the wiser.
Quote:is this the one about the Florida AG or whatever?
Yup. No conflict of interest there.
"Mr. Trump, I've been asked to investigate you."
"You're a tremendous AG. Fighting that marriage equality thing after the federal law was passed to the bitter end and costing taxpayers a half million dollars to exercise your personal opinions about the sanctity of your third marriage was great. I'm gonna make America great again too. Instead of investigating who did what to whom or what rules may or may not have been bent or broken, how about I give you this nice check. I also have a fabulous resort in South Florida which I charged my own campaign $140K to use for a fundraiser, but tell you what.. I'll give you the whole building for less than $5K."
"What investigation was that we were talking about Mr. Trump?"
Quote:Yup. No conflict of interest there.
"Mr. Trump, I've been asked to investigate you."
"You're a tremendous AG. Fighting that marriage equality thing after the federal law was passed to the bitter end and costing taxpayers a half million dollars to exercise your personal opinions about the sanctity of your third marriage was great. I'm gonna make America great again too. Instead of investigating who did what to whom or what rules may or may not have been bent or broken, how about I give you this nice check. I also have a fabulous resort in South Florida which I charged my own campaign $140K to use for a fundraiser, but tell you what.. I'll give you the whole building for less than $5K."
"What investigation was that we were talking about Mr. Trump?"
haha. man look at the amounts in this OP and compare that to $25,000
Quote:haha. man look at the amounts in this OP and compare that to $25,000
Bondi is small potatoes. Even with the ability to collect two alimony checks from her failed, but still holy and sacred, marriages. Doesn't excuse the fact she got bribed to not investigate seemingly legitimate accusations. But y'know.. Teflon Trump doesn't need the distraction and his supporters will look the other way, so..
It defies logic the lengths the extreme left who blindly back Hillary and can't see she's the worse of two evils.
They get lied to and used by them, yet it's like they have Stockholm Syndrome.
They just can't quit her.
Blind, unwarranted commitment to the D.
This is what happens when politics is your religion, your driving force in life. It's quite cult like. An alternate reality of groupthink that demands conformity to hide the fatal logic flaws in the worldview.
What I see are the supporters of each candidate backing their choice to avoid the other. It's more of a vote against, than a vote for.
Regards............the Chiefjag
Quote:What I see are the supporters of each candidate backing their choice to avoid the other. It's more of a vote against, than a vote for.
Regards............the Chiefjag
I think there are a good portion of each that are die hard actual supporters. Then there is a larger portion that think liberal is a dirty word and vice versa. The rest of us are just sitting here going, if I vote for Johnson what does that mean in the grand scheme of things.
Quote:It defies logic the lengths the extreme left who blindly back Hillary and can't see she's the worse of two evils.
They get lied to and used by them, yet it's like they have Stockholm Syndrome.
They just can't quit her.
Blind, unwarranted commitment to the D.
This is what happens when politics is your religion, your driving force in life. It's quite cult like. An alternate reality of groupthink that demands conformity to hide the fatal logic flaws in the worldview.
Maybe if Trump wasn't such an abrasive, thin-skinned blowhard who doesn't feel like anyone (his handlers, the media, those who try to enforce the legal system of our country, etc.) has a right to tell him what he can and can't do or say I would be more inclined to believe he is the lesser of two evils. He has the temperament of a pre-schooler and has a long list of offensive statements which clearly represent his true feelings and opinions on things. He thinks he can bully our allies and our enemies into doing whatever he wants and has expressed a willingness to get us into military conflicts without a shred of diplomacy. He is not nearly as intelligent as he likes to believe he is on any number of things that have to do with government, policy, foreign affairs, diplomacy, the economy, etc. He is being openly promoted by the state controlled media of our greatest adversary and has a history of really shady dealings. And he is a pathological liar. Believe me.
Hillary is corrupt like you say (if you think Trump isn't too, your head is in the sand). She has some unsavory bedfellows as does Trump (coin toss between her ties to Saudi Arabia and his ties to influential people from the former Soviet republic). But, unlike so many on this board, I cannot completely discredit the fact she was a Senator, a First Lady and a Secretary of State as positive qualifications despite some of her not great moments when compared to a guy who has zero experience and thinks he can bully everyone into doing what he wants.
If he had truly great ideas it would be something (he doesn't). If he presented himself in a way which remotely made me think he gave a damn about anyone but himself, it would be something (he doesn't). If he didn't flip flop on almost every single issue he is discussing on his current campaign trail it would be something (he did). I cannot think of any redeeming human quality he possesses. He is a raging Richard-wad. If there was a better option than Hillary I would vote for it. I PROMISE YOU.
Hillary is three day old Taco Bell. But she's still more appetizing than a 'just made' turd sandwich.
Quote:I think there are a good portion of each that are die hard actual supporters. Then there is a larger portion that think liberal is a dirty word and vice versa. The rest of us are just sitting here going, if I vote for Johnson what does that mean in the grand scheme of things.
I suppose some are actual supporters but in my mind I just can't fathom anyone believing the Presidency of the United States, the leader of the free world, is an entry-level job to public service.
Regards................the Chiefjag
Quote:Someone who's never before run for office or held a political job? You mean like Eisenhower?
If Trump wasn't such a jerk and didn't lean so far left I'd be a lot happier to vote for him. Government experience is a negative, especially if the candidate has a history of being part of the ruling establishment.
As it is, he's still better than the traitor. At least he claims he'd put America first. Hillary already proved that she wouldn't.
Eisenhower was Chief of Staff for President Truman so he did have experience in public service. Nonetheless, he had little.
If Trump had something, you know maybe governor, or mayor, or something which taught him how to be diplomatic with people, perhaps the experience would help him soften the edges.
I just don't see how he can relate to the average American worker, who is changing tires at Firestone, or doing medical billing at St. Lukes, when he was given a million dollars at age 18, never applied for a job, never sat through a performance review, or ever been told what to do by a superior. He has no idea what we go through.
Regards....................the Chiefjag