Quote:You've seen a lot of talk about that? I must have missed those threads, which ones are they in?
Probably not a lot, but if I cared enough I would go back and look, there are a few people saying 7-9 would allow Gus 1 more year. I don't see it, this team is talented and said talent should be enough to take the South. I think Osweiler will struggle and Luck is coming off of injury and looked horrible last year when he did play. Tennessee has Mike Mularkey... This division should be ours and anything less than playoffs would be a major disappointment imo.
We could have brought Tom Coughlin back. Just going to throw that in this thread for no apparent reason.
No wagers, im just a speculating fan. :yes: I just think its ridiculous how long of a leash Gus has gotten, you just don't see it anywhere else in the NFL anymore. This season will be the true test to see if time pays off in the modern day NFL.
Quote:No wagers, im just a speculating fan. :yes: I just think its ridiculous how long of a leash Gus has gotten, you just don't see it anywhere else in the NFL anymore. This season will be the true test to see if time pays off in the modern day NFL.
He got a long leash because we did something teams rarely have the courage to do: we gutted the team, completely tore it down to the ground and started over.
You can't really put a number on how many wins Gus needs to stay, because for example, if Bortles, Robinson, and Hurns all have injuries that put them out for the season, what then? In that circumstance, 7 wins would be a miracle.
I would say barring any significant injuries to key players, we should expect at least 9 wins. But like I said, it depends on the health of the key players.
Wow....he really went out on a limb with this prediction.
Quote:That's funny, I've seen a lot of talk around the board that Gus should possibly be brought back even if the team goes .500 or lower. Glad to see you've come around, though, because it really is obvious that with the talent the Jaguars have non winning football shouldn't cut it.
I think it's pretty obvious that he has to crack .500 this year or all bets are off. .500 might keep his job depending on how that results in finishing the division. But, I think the ice is thin at 8-8. It's a 3 win improvement, but with all of the money invested in the roster to fix the biggest issues, the team has to have AT LEAST 4 wins to assure that he's not going anywhere. It's very possible, and as I've said elsewhere, I think this team is going to surprise a lot of people this year.
Quote:Probably not a lot, but if I cared enough I would go back and look, there are a few people saying 7-9 would allow Gus 1 more year. I don't see it, this team is talented and said talent should be enough to take the South. I think Osweiler will struggle and Luck is coming off of injury and looked horrible last year when he did play. Tennessee has Mike Mularkey... This division should be ours and anything less than playoffs would be a major disappointment imo.
I don't really think 7-9 would cut it. Another losing season would almost certainly mark the end for Bradley unless somehow that 7-9 won the division and the team made at least a respectable playoff run. I don't see the division title landing at 7-9, so he'd be hard pressed to keep his job in that situation.
Quote:I think it's pretty obvious that he has to crack .500 this year or all bets are off. .500 might keep his job depending on how that results in finishing the division. But, I think the ice is thin at 8-8. It's a 3 win improvement, but with all of the money invested in the roster to fix the biggest issues, the team has to have AT LEAST 4 wins to assure that he's not going anywhere. It's very possible, and as I've said elsewhere, I think this team is going to surprise a lot of people this year.
The first 4 games of the season will be very telling for this team. The first 4 are very winnable games considering anything can happen week 1 against the Packers, Chargers are not good, Ravens will be better but we can win that game at home followed by the Colts.
Minimum 2-2 after those first 4.
Quote:The first 4 games of the season will be very telling for this team. The first 4 are very winnable games considering anything can happen week 1 against the Packers, Chargers are not good, Ravens will be better but we can win that game at home followed by the Colts.
Minimum 2-2 after those first 4.
I think that's a reasonable expectation.
The defense is going to come out of the gate looking to prove something, and I think they'll catch Green Bay in what they'll see as a meaningless road game out of conference. Should be a fun game to be at because I think they'll send a message opening day.
It would be nice to see the team start fast for the first time in the Caldwell/Bradley era.
Quote:The first 4 games of the season will be very telling for this team. The first 4 are very winnable games considering anything can happen week 1 against the Packers, Chargers are not good, Ravens will be better but we can win that game at home followed by the Colts.
Minimum 2-2 after those first 4.
Quote:I think that's a reasonable expectation.
The defense is going to come out of the gate looking to prove something, and I think they'll catch Green Bay in what they'll see as a meaningless road game out of conference. Should be a fun game to be at because I think they'll send a message opening day.
It would be nice to see the team start fast for the first time in the Caldwell/Bradley era.
The only issue is whether or not Shad makes a move at the bye if we start off 1-3 or worse. I predict huge fan reaction in the 4th quarter of the clots game if they are about to go 0-4.
Quote:The only issue is whether or not Shad makes a move at the bye if we start off 1-3 or worse. I predict huge fan reaction in the 4th quarter of the clots game if they are about to go 0-4.
I doubt anything happens to Gus if we start 1-3. Now if we are 2-6 at the halfway point? Get the boot big boy.
Quote:The only issue is whether or not Shad makes a move at the bye if we start off 1-3 or worse. I predict huge fan reaction in the 4th quarter of the clots game if they are about to go 0-4.
in London?
"fire that wanker!"
or on the message boards?
cuz the boards will fire up game 1....
Quote:I doubt anything happens to Gus if we start 1-3. Now if we are 2-6 at the halfway point? Get the boot big boy.
I tend to think Bradley stays the entire year. even at 2-6 halfway, DC and Khan will give him every opportunity to get it turned around this season and make a decision at the end of the season.
Just seems to be how they like to handle things.
Quote:I think that's a reasonable expectation.
The defense is going to come out of the gate looking to prove something, and I think they'll catch Green Bay in what they'll see as a meaningless road game out of conference. Should be a fun game to be at because I think they'll send a message opening day.
It would be nice to see the team start fast for the first time in the Caldwell/Bradley era.
I see this as well and I'm sure the team does as well. They will be playing their [BLEEP] off week 1. Khan, Caldwell, Bradley and all the publicist for the team know a win week one against the Packers is huge in a million ways
Quote:The only issue is whether or not Shad makes a move at the bye if we start off 1-3 or worse. I predict huge fan reaction in the 4th quarter of the clots game if they are about to go 0-4.
No matter what, I doubt Khan would make any sort of move until the season is over. Even if they start in typical fashion, I think this team is built to get better as the season progresses. I think they're going to give Gus every opportunity to make this work. Now, if the team is 1-9 or something equally catastrophic? Then he might pull the trigger, but I really don't see that happening.
Quote:No matter what, I doubt Khan would make any sort of move until the season is over. Even if they start in typical fashion, I think this team is built to get better as the season progresses. I think they're going to give Gus every opportunity to make this work. Now, if the team is 1-9 or something equally catastrophic? Then he might pull the trigger, but I really don't see that happening.
I just don't think the fans are going to be that patient, and, like the Henne Halftime, seeing them headed for the door might affect his thinking.
Hopefully they'll start 4-0 and this will all be moot, but...
This season is a win/win for Jags fans and the organization as whole, as this team certainly has enough talent to compete in the underwhelming AFC South, it will tell a lot about Gus's coaching aptitude or lack there of. Contrary to popular belief on this board, our schedule outside of the division isn't that difficult, outside of Aaron Rodgers, there isn't a QB on our schedule that "scares" me. Philip Rivers has obviously been a thorn in the Jags side for the better part of a decade now, but that Chargers team as a whole is bad. If the Jags manage to win 9-10 games, that proves Gus should be the man at the helm moving forward, if they underachieve and win 6-7 games, Gus should and will be fired at seasons end. Make no mistake about it, if Dave & Shad decide to move on from Gus, the Jaguars head coaching position will be one of the most attractive positions in all of professional sports. Given the amount of young (cost-controlled) talent on this roster, and a owner who's patient and is willing to spend money, the Jags should be able to hire whoever they want. This season will tell a lot about Gus, I personally believe he's a hell of a coach who has the rare ability to motivate and lead men, now that he has the requisite talent on the field, not only do I think the Jags will win this division, I think we'll a see a couple of games where they're truly "dominant" in the process.
Quote:I just don't think the fans are going to be that patient, and, like the Henne Halftime, seeing them headed for the door might affect his thinking.
Hopefully they'll start 4-0 and this will all be moot, but...
I sincerely doubt it. I think there's a commitment to let this play out. Barring a complete collapse, or Gus just losing the team (both of which are highly unlikely), Khan is going to let this thing play out to the end of the year. I think when the dust settles, we're ALL going to be rewarded for his patience.
Quote:This season is a win/win for Jags fans and the organization as whole, as this team certainly has enough talent to compete in the underwhelming AFC South, it will tell a lot about Gus's coaching aptitude or lack there of. Contrary to popular belief on this board, our schedule outside of the division isn't that difficult, outside of Aaron Rodgers, there isn't a QB on our schedule that "scares" me. Philip Rivers has obviously been a thorn in the Jags side for the better part of a decade now, but that Chargers team as a whole is bad. If the Jags manage to win 9-10 games, that proves Gus should be the man at the helm moving forward, if they underachieve and win 6-7 games, Gus should and will be fired at seasons end. Make no mistake about it, if Dave & Shad decide to move on from Gus, the Jaguars head coaching position will be one of the most attractive positions in all of professional sports. Given the amount of young (cost-controlled) talent on this roster, and a owner who's patient and is willing to spend money, the Jags should be able to hire whoever they want. This season will tell a lot about Gus, I personally believe he's a hell of a coach who has the rare ability to motivate and lead men, now that he has the requisite talent on the field, not only do I think the Jags will win this division, I think we'll a see a couple of games where they're truly "dominant" in the process.
I don't see how anyone can think this season is a win/win.
If we win, then thats great! if we lose, then that sucks and the season was a waste. Gus gets fired, we have another new coach and system, people will be screaming "be patient!... It's his first year as a HC" and then that's another terrible season.
Seems to me its a win/lose season... Just like every year.