Quote:no one can say that the media doesnt talk about the Jags, now its time to put it all together on the field
I might be alone in this, but I feel like the media is talking about us too much. I never was one of those "no respect" guys but everything has gone all "Bizarro World." The amusing side effect of this however, is we actively have bonafide haters now...whereas in I don't think we did in recent memory...so I guess that's a plus.
Quote:Prove it time. I like the positive press and coverage but the fact is Caldwell is looking like a good pickup for the front office and football operations. We need more on the field. Of course we have some waiting to do before we see it. Go Jaguars!
Everyone is saying the same thing about that: "There are no excuses left for Gus Bradley." And they are right. Dave Caldwell has brought in a ton of talent through free agency and the draft so nobody can fault him if we have a losing record in 2016. I have been patient with Bradley because we had many holes on our roster. Now we can accurately determine if Bradley just needed better players or really is not a good coach.
Quote:Everyone is saying the same thing about that: "There are no excuses left for Gus Bradley." And they are right. Dave Caldwell has brought in a ton of talent through free agency and the draft so nobody can fault him if we have a losing record in 2016. I have been patient with Bradley because we had many holes on our roster. Now we can accurately determine if Bradley just needed better players or really is not a good coach.
Ultimately it's players not coaching. The head coach has little to do with how players perform.
Quote:Ultimately it's players not coaching. The head coach has little to do with how players perform.
The head coach has a lot to do with holding our players accountable. No matter how talented players are, they need to stop making mental mistakes - something we did a lot on defense last year.
Who cares, the same media that everyone ripped when they would say nothing positive about the Jags now everyone is patting each other on the back because they are praising us, can't have it both ways. IMO f the media, just win baby!!
I don't care for too much media love either. They set you up to bring you down. Plus we have seldom lived up to expectations in those instances. Perhaps, change is here.
Quote:Ultimately it's players not coaching. The head coach has little to do with how players perform.
And all this time I've thought it was because the coaches aren't playing.
What worries me is the media will heavily scrutinize Gus Bradley all season no matter what Shad Khan says about his job security. When reporters write he has no excuses left, they are setting him up for bad press conferences when we are on a losing streak. In reality we need to let our rookies make the leap from Year 1 to Year 2 like the offense did last season. High expectations are great if people don't go overboard and call this a "make or break year" for Bradley.
All of the love we are getting from media sources who used to disrespect us is wonderful. How could any Jaguars fan not like seeing former haters change their minds about us? We have been frustrated for so long about being disrespected by NFL analysts who are supposed to be team-neutral. So the complaints about finally getting the respect we deserve make no sense. You wanted it and now you have it. Bring it on.
Quote:What worries me is the media will heavily scrutinize Gus Bradley all season no matter what Shad Khan says about his job security. When reporters write he has no excuses left, they are setting him up for bad press conferences when we are on a losing streak. In reality we need to let our rookies make the leap from Year 1 to Year 2 like the offense did last season. High expectations are great if people don't go overboard and call this a "make or break year" for Bradley.
All of the love we are getting from media sources who used to disrespect us is wonderful. How could any Jaguars fan not like seeing former haters change their minds about us? We have been frustrated for so long about being disrespected by NFL analysts who are supposed to be team-neutral. So the complaints about finally getting the respect we deserve make no sense. You wanted it and now you have it. Bring it on.
As for Bradley, if he has what it takes then the media or pressure won't matter. He'll perform which means his team will perform.
He doesn't. You don't go from Derrick Harvey to Tony Brackens in one year, or 10. But, talent may get him to the desired '8' in spite of his limitations...
Go Jags
People like to judge by results. It's an easy and quick way to make a judgment. Did we win? Coaching is good. Did we lose? Coaching is bad. Really, that's all a fan can do, because that's all a fan sees.
But a GM is different. A GM attends practices and meetings. A GM has seen other coaches, good and bad. A GM knows good and bad coaching when he sees it. Not by results, but by the actual coaching that occurs. A GM sees what is happening when the fans aren't around to see it. In short, a GM can see things a lot more deeply than a fan can see them.
And that's why I am not going to say something like, either we make the playoffs or Gus should get fired. I am going to operate under the assumption that Dave Caldwell can judge the coaching a lot better than I, or any other fan, can. Dave Caldwell should be able to see the reasons we have success or failure a lot better than a casual fan like you or me.
Leave it up to Dave Caldwell to decide whether Gus is the right coach for our future.
Quote:What worries me is the media will heavily scrutinize Gus Bradley all season no matter what Shad Khan says about his job security. When reporters write he has no excuses left, they are setting him up for bad press conferences when we are on a losing streak. In reality we need to let our rookies make the leap from Year 1 to Year 2 like the offense did last season. High expectations are great if people don't go overboard and call this a "make or break year" for Bradley.
All of the love we are getting from media sources who used to disrespect us is wonderful. How could any Jaguars fan not like seeing former haters change their minds about us? We have been frustrated for so long about being disrespected by NFL analysts who are supposed to be team-neutral. So the complaints about finally getting the respect we deserve make no sense. You wanted it and now you have it. Bring it on.
Bradley deserves to be criticized if this team doesn't produce wins. He will be in year 4. All the pieces are in place. If he doesn't win, he should and will most likely be fired and a new coach will be brought in.
If you don't think this is a make or break season for Gus (regardless what Shad or Dave say) then you're delusional. He absolutely must perform this year. No more "they competed" or "We played hard and thats what matters." Wins matter. Always have and always will. It's how you judge a coach.
Quote:Bradley deserves to be criticized if this team doesn't produce wins. He will be in year 5. All the pieces are in place. If he doesn't win, he should and will most likely be fired and a new coach will be brought in.
If you don't think this is a make or break season for Gus (regardless what Shad or Dave say) then you're delusional. He absolutely must perform this year. No more "they competed" or "We played hard and thats what matters." Wins matter. Always have and always will. It's how you judge a coach.
It's how YOU judge a coach, because that's all you or I know- did we win or not. But a GM should be a lot smarter than that. A GM can actually watch practice, attend meetings, see what the coach is actually doing. A GM has seen other teams' practices and coaching. A GM can see things a lot more deeply than you or I can.
So, you are right. It's how you (or I) judge a coach. But that doesn't mean you or I are good judges of the coaching, because we don't see the coaching. We see the games. Not the practices. Not the meetings. We don't see the process. We see the results. And in my mind, that's not enough to make us good judges of the job the coaches are doing.
By the way, just a minor point, he won't be in year 5, he'll be in year 4.
Quote:I don't care for too much media love either. They set you up to bring you down. Plus we have seldom lived up to expectations in those instances. Perhaps, change is here.
I've absorbed so much media love the last week, I'm about to have a sugar crash. I'm getting sick of it. It's like eating too much cake.
Quote:It's how YOU judge a coach, because that's all you or I know- did we win or not. But a GM should be a lot smarter than that. A GM can actually watch practice, attend meetings, see what the coach is actually doing. A GM has seen other teams' practices and coaching. A GM can see things a lot more deeply than you or I can.
So, you are right. It's how you (or I) judge a coach. But that doesn't mean you or I are good judges of the coaching, because we don't see the coaching. We see the games. Not the practices. Not the meetings. We don't see the process. We see the results. And in my mind, that's not enough to make us good judges of the job the coaches are doing.
By the way, just a minor point, he won't be in year 5, he'll be in year 4.
Winning is how just about everyone, including GMs, judges a coach. If it wasn't, then why even keep records. Just let them play and judge their coaching by how they "compete." Do they give coach of the year awards to coaches who have 7-9 records?
I understand what you're saying but this year is about winning. If we win 6 or 7 games but we practice hard, does that really matter? Who cares about how we practice? The wins need to start building here for Gus to be a successful coach and if they don't, he should be gone.
Quote:It's how YOU judge a coach, because that's all you or I know- did we win or not. But a GM should be a lot smarter than that. A GM can actually watch practice, attend meetings, see what the coach is actually doing. A GM has seen other teams' practices and coaching. A GM can see things a lot more deeply than you or I can.
So, you are right. It's how you (or I) judge a coach. But that doesn't mean you or I are good judges of the coaching, because we don't see the coaching. We see the games. Not the practices. Not the meetings. We don't see the process. We see the results. And in my mind, that's not enough to make us good judges of the job the coaches are doing.
By the way, just a minor point, he won't be in year 5, he'll be in year 4.
I've got to be honest, I don't understand the love for Gus. What is it that makes people believe in him?
Quote:I've got to be honest, I don't understand the love for Gus. What is it that makes people believe in him?
Why are you asking me?
Quote:I've got to be honest, I don't understand the love for Gus. What is it that makes people believe in him?
He is a likable guy. Have you ever heard one person who knows him, works with him, covers him, plays for him, say a bad word about him. People hope he is the right man for the job. So far, he has not shown that.
I think he got a 4th year because the team gives him a free pass for 2013. The clock started in 2014. He won 3 games and then 5 games. No matter what anybody thinks of the job, he has done so far. His future is tied to what his team does this year.
I have my doubts about Bradley. I think his in-game decisions (timeout use, challenge use, going for it on 4th) have been questionable. But we shall see. I have been wrong before.
Quote:I've got to be honest, I don't understand the love for Gus. What is it that makes people believe in him?
I don't know if it's so much a blind faith in him, as much as it's an acknowledgement the team simply did not have adequate talent for him to win.
For me, at this point, talent is not an issue. Absent catastrophic injuries, Bradley has to sink or swim.