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Naw he's just smokescreening because everyone is on the Leonard to Jville train

Ha ha that be another correct prediction.


If we drafted Lattimore. I was the first to say it.


If truly going all in with Blake. Have to give him every way to succeed.


So grabbing lattimore would mean that. A stout secondary, great lbs, and a nice front line.


Can't run on us or can't pass on us.


Now all Blake would have to do is score some points.

Quote:Versatility/hybrid is how the NFL is changing. Players that can offer that are becoming more and more valuable, players that don't aren't.

 

That's why a TE that can line up anywhere from split end to slot to inline to in the backield, stand up a DE like Garrett, and also get 20 yards downfield to block in the run game is getting top 5 consideration.

 

That's why a SS that can play the box, play nickel corner, and also play single high is getting top 5 consideration.

 

That's why a RB who can punish someone on the second and third levels, get tackled behind the LOS frequently, average 3.5 YPC from shotgun, and show raw receiving and blocking skills is getting top 5 consideration. Oh wait... 

 

Bingo, you get a lot of flack around here, but (imo) you're usually right on point

The interesting thing from the linked Clayton/DC interview was DC explaining Calais Campbell.  He mentions him playing inside and also big end.  But then goes on to emphasize his value, along with Malik, in providing an inside rush.  It sounded to me that he moves inside on nickel defense.  In my mind, it raises the odds to take a player like Thomas or Allen, as someone will need to play the big end spot when Campbell moves inside.   

What Tom said there means absolutely nothing  He was just making conversation.


 

I've been saying Jonathan Allen for a while now, but him saying this doesn't make it any more so. The pick could EASILY be Fournette.

Quote:The interesting thing from the linked Clayton/DC interview was DC explaining Calais Campbell.  He mentions him playing inside and also big end.  But then goes on to emphasize his value, along with Malik, in providing an inside rush.  It sounded to me that he moves inside on nickel defense.  In my mind, it raises the odds to take a player like Thomas or Allen, as someone will need to play the big end spot when Campbell moves inside.   

 

This has been my guess of how they'd use him since before he signed.

https://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/to.../?p=977560

 

Strong end on base and DT next to Malik in nickel. 

 

However - we're talking about Campbell inside on nickel, so they'd have Fowler at strong end when Campbell kicks inside. They don't necessarily need someone for that spot. 

Quote:yeah i get that. but broncos also have von miller rushing the passer. Colvin is serviceable enough to play nickel. we don't need to go wasting a high draft pick (hopefully our last high draft pick in a while) on someone that is going to be covering the 3rd best receiver. And then come time, we won't resign both Ramsey and Lattimore

 

Disagree.  Colvin is another drug test pop from a 10+ game suspension.  Draft Latimore in the 1st round and continue to make the defense better.  The remaining picks should/could go all offense after that.

 

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Any of Lattimore/Howard/Thomas would excite me in the 1st.  I think at least two will be available at 4.

 

I don't think Caldwell tipped his hand.  He's smarter than that.

The problem with the Latimore pick is both he and Ramsey are going to command BIG 2nd contracts (you would think) and that would be a lot of money to tie up at the same position. Sign me up for Hooker. Dudes going to be a stud.

Quote:The problem with the Latimore pick is both he and Ramsey are going to command BIG 2nd contracts (you would think) and that would be a lot of money to tie up at the same position. Sign me up for Hooker. Dudes going to be a stud.

Didn't you hear? Apparently 5 yrs down the road doesn't matter around here

Ive watched lattimore has bust written all over him

Quote:Ive watched lattimore has bust written all over him

Why do you say that?  Just curious.

Spending 2 top 5 picks and a big contract on a FA in 2 years would be overkill. If we're going to go DB, I'd go Hooker and get a true ball hawking FS. Gipson certainly disappointed last year. Of course, that could change with new leadership.

Quote:Ive watched lattimore has bust written all over him

Lattimore is one of the safer picks in this draft, explosive, great feet, and incredibly fluid/loose hips. He reminds of a bigger version of Jason Verrett. I think he'll be a great pro capable of shadowing even the most twitched up receivers.

I see us taking a DE or a DT over a corner.. Maybe even a S

There's no such thing as someone letting something slip accidentally this time of year.  None of these guys are going to tip their hands as to what they're doing in the draft, so if you honestly think he let something slip there, I've got a bridge I'd love to sell you.

Quote:smokescreen effect for what?? No team is about to trade up over 4 for a running back which is the only offensive position we'd take at 4.

Teams can trade up for any player, not just for players we might draft, they might want to jump a team or cant work out a trade with other teams but went to get up there for a player they are targeting.

 

But its sounds more like he is saying we have the 4th pick so if we want we can add another defensive player

Quote:The problem with the Latimore pick is both he and Ramsey are going to command BIG 2nd contracts (you would think) and that would be a lot of money to tie up at the same position. Sign me up for Hooker. Dudes going to be a stud.

We drafted Dante Fowler top 3 in 2015, signed Malik Jackson to a big money deal last year, and people are talking about us taking a DL first this year, to say nothing of signing Campbell this year, and perhaps the second contract of Ngakoue if he continues to develop.

 

Is that too much money to tie up at the same area?

Quote:We drafted Dante Fowler top 3 in 2015, signed Malik Jackson to a big money deal last year, and people are talking about us taking a DL first this year, to say nothing of signing Campbell this year, and perhaps the second contract of Ngakoue if he continues to develop.

 

Is that too much money to tie up at the same area?

DL rotate more then any other position in the NFL, plus Campbell is 30, we also just cut 3 starters and didnt resign another DL that started while one of them was injured. 

 

CB is not a position to be going in the top 5, we have other holes, CB might be out strongest spot on the team right now, WR prob is better

Quote:DL rotate more then any other position in the NFL, plus Campbell is 30, we also just cut 3 starters and didnt resign another DL that started while one of them was injured. 

 

CB is not a position to be going in the top 5, we have other holes, CB might be out strongest spot on the team right now, WR prob is better

You could argue that teams are in nickel 70% of the time, and nickel backs will play more than a rotational DL, making them more valuable.

 

Plenty of teams have gone CB top 5 and have been rewarded handsomely for it.

 

Now we probably WON'T go CB at 4, to be clear.

 

Just trying to logically make the distinction between investing a lot of capital at DL vs DB.