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Truth be told there is nothing you can do to stop these kind of attacks. 

 

If someone woke up tomorrow and decided to do the same in Dublin there would be nothing to stop them. 

 

Perhaps deporting those with extremist links (regardless of religion) would be the first way to go about helping to prevent these kind of attacks though, instead of having these guys on watch lists waiting for them to mess up.

Quote:Khalid Masood...

 

That name doesn't sound British to me.
 

British enough.


 

If you include all of the spelling variations, Mohammed is the most popular baby name in Britain.

Quote:Truth be told there is nothing you can do to stop these kind of attacks. 

 

If someone woke up tomorrow and decided to do the same in Dublin there would be nothing to stop them. 

 

Perhaps deporting those with extremist links (regardless of religion) would be the first way to go about helping to prevent these kind of attacks though, instead of having these guys on watch lists waiting for them to mess up.


Of course there is, you ban Islam from Western countries. That worked with Nazism and Fascism and Communism.


Or something.
Quote:British enough.


If you include all of the spelling variations, Mohammed is the most popular baby name in Britain.


That's true but it doesn't really imply what you and fox news hope if you think deeper.
Do you deny radicalized Muslims are a threat?

 

Talk about not thinking deeper.

 

Only a fool would assume it's all in a name.

 

Again, too many excuses and coddling.  You can never solve a problem if you refuse to identify or acknowledge it.

Quote:That's true but it doesn't really imply what you and fox news hope if you think deeper.
 

What was I implying, other than disagreeing with the claim that the name was not British?


 

And you'll have to tell me what Fox News was implying since you are apparently a devotee. I don't follow Fox News except when someone else links to them.

Quote:Do you deny radicalized Muslims are a threat?


Talk about not thinking deeper.


Only a fool would assume it's all in a name.


Again, too many excuses and coddling. You can never solve a problem if you refuse to identify or acknowledge it.


Not sure Britain has a big problem that needs resolving. Mass killings are more of an issue in the US and usually done by non Muslims?
Quote:Of course there is, you ban Islam from Western countries. That worked with Nazism and Fascism and Communism.


Or something.
I think banning Islam would create more terrorists currently in western countries.
Quote:Not sure Britain has a big problem that needs resolving. Mass killings are more of an issue in the US and usually done by non Muslims?
 

Your ignorance seems to be worn like a fashion statement.

 

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Nothing to see here, move along...
Quote:Truth be told there is nothing you can do to stop these kind of attacks. 

 

If someone woke up tomorrow and decided to do the same in Dublin there would be nothing to stop them. 

 

Perhaps deporting those with extremist links (regardless of religion) would be the first way to go about helping to prevent these kind of attacks though, instead of having these guys on watch lists waiting for them to mess up.
There's usually a trend with attacks like this.  They normally don't review their web activity or social media accounts until they're doing a forensic analysis after the fact.  More often than not, when you've got someone who is self-radicalized, it's something that you can potentially catch in advance of an attack, but, there's a trade-off there that I don't think most are willing to accept.  This would require us to give up more of our liberties than we already have over the past 16 years. 
Quote:There's usually a trend with attacks like this. They normally don't review their web activity or social media accounts until they're doing a forensic analysis after the fact. More often than not, when you've got someone who is self-radicalized, it's something that you can potentially catch in advance of an attack, but, there's a trade-off there that I don't think most are willing to accept. This would require us to give up more of our liberties than we already have over the past 16 years.


Holy crapola



I 100% agree
Get a room you two.

Quote:Get a room you two.
FBT and Indy sittin in a tree, K I S S I N G. Ooooooooh , I'm tellin
Truth is, many have been stopped before they were carried out as well.  The "can't stop" is an excuse and a myth.

Quote:Do you deny radicalized Muslims are a threat?

 

Talk about not thinking deeper.

 

Only a fool would assume it's all in a name.

 

Again, too many excuses and coddling.  You can never solve a problem if you refuse to identify or acknowledge it.
 

What specifically would you do, in regards to people that are already here legally, that is Constitutional?  

 

Keep in mind, thinking about driving your car through a crowd of people is legal.  It's actually doing it that is illegal.  
Quote:Truth is, many have been stopped before they were carried out as well. The "can't stop" is an excuse and a myth.


I certainly never said can't. But I am wondering how?
Quote:I certainly never said can't. But I am wondering how?
 

That's the 64K question.  We (not just US, but the world) can't simply give up because the task seems impossible to some.
Quote:That's the 64K question. We (not just US, but the world) can't simply give up because the task seems impossible to some.


I don't want to give up. Not sure you can do it by alienating the whole Islam religion. We're going to have to engage the Muslim religion and they're going to have to help. They're going to be the one to have to lead to change within their own religion.
Quote:I don't want to give up. Not sure you can do it by alienating the whole Islam religion. We're going to have to engage the Muslim religion and they're going to have to help. They're going to be the one to have to lead to change within their own religion.
 

Assuming they want to...
Quote:Assuming they want to...


Not sure you can succeed without cooperation. Unless there is a crusade planned.
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