Floyd, Stanley, Goff, watch his Utah game.
Quote:Ramsey could easily. Cause he has butterfingers and no real fit.
Ya play him as corner get burned by speedy wideouts. However for bigger receivers he should be a good shut down corner. But at 1-5 a bust. But far from trash.
Ya play him at free safety. He cant catch. So would he ballhawk balls to batt down?
Only real chance he has as a SS he has great speed and very good at tackling. And be great to use for blitzes.
Of all the posters and all the players, your hatred reigns supreme.
I hope you will come on here and eat massive amounts of crow if you're wrong.
Quote:Of all the posters and all the players, your hatred reigns supreme.
I hope you will come on here and eat massive amounts of crow if you're wrong.
should of seen what Solid Snake had to say about him
Myles Jack, having such a huge injury and lacking the ideal size at LB he worries me as a potential bust.
Quote:Myles Jack, having such a huge injury and lacking the ideal size at LB he worries me as a potential bust.
What is the ideal size according to you?
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4-3 Strong-side linebacker:
The strong-side linebacker must have the power to take on blockers and attack the run, the flexibility to rush the quarterback off the edge and the feet to play in coverage against tight ends. A strong-side linebacker must be a complete player in a 4-3 defense.
Example: <strong>Von Miller, Denver Broncos</strong>
<strong>(from Bleacher Report above)</strong>
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I mean sure at 6'1", 245 lbs, and if healed possible <4.8 sec in 40 he would meet the typical 4-3 OLB requirements, but if he is to replace Skuta at Strong side OLB (assuming everyone loves Telvin Smith at weak)
he should be 6-3 or taller, 260lbs he should have the reach & hands to hold up the TE & wade thru FB (or whomever is blocking) to get at the ball. He must be able to hold the edge of the defense (Skuta struggled against the run).
I would say in the above more towards the 3-4 OLB as a really good SOLB & Myles only did 19 reps FYI. I mean he might be good but I prefer my top 5 picks not to have torn an ACL & not be ready by week 1...
just saying..
I would think that Joey Bosa could play SOLB he's 6'5", 269lbs, ran a 4.86 in the 40 (but I think hes a bit faster than that), 24 225lb bench (one shy from 3-4 olb above). I think making him LE is most likely for the Jaguars though.
Quote:Of all the posters and all the players, your hatred reigns supreme.
I hope you will come on here and eat massive amounts of crow if you're wrong.
If he has elite hands. And makes plays I sure will. I dont have any issue with ramsey. If we put him at SS like Berry as One poster suggested I am cool with it. Otherwise.
Corner? Against Hilton, Hopkins, and Wright, are you kidding me?
At FS how happy ya gonna be when could have 8 ints and lucky if has one?
So yea at SS with his speed and tackling skills excited. Against speedy number 1s no way. He will get made a joke.
He is not Alexander always playing the defender.
So yes IF I am wrong I will say I was. But if I am right. You can bet I will still say so.
Quote:If he has elite hands. And makes plays I sure will. I dont have any issue with ramsey. If we put him at SS like Berry as One poster suggested I am cool with it. Otherwise.
Corner? Against Hilton, Hopkins, and Wright, are you kidding me?
At FS how happy ya gonna be when could have 8 ints and lucky if has one?
So yea at SS with his speed and tackling skills excited. Against speedy number 1s no way. He will get made a joke.
He is not Alexander always playing the defender.
So yes IF I am wrong I will say I was. But if I am right. You can bet I will still say so.
I'm not the biggest Ramsey fan, but he could definitely put up a fight with Hilton, Hopkins, and Wright each time they play. Hopkins torched House both games.
Thats where I differ in several games had issues with speedy wideouts. Hurns burned him bad.
But remember a bust is based on draft pick. Not necc stinks. I dont think ramsey will stink by no means. Just where he fits to justify the pick.
Quote:
4-3 Strong-side linebacker:
The strong-side linebacker must have the power to take on blockers and attack the run, the flexibility to rush the quarterback off the edge and the feet to play in coverage against tight ends. A strong-side linebacker must be a complete player in a 4-3 defense.
Example: <strong>Von Miller, Denver Broncos</strong>
<strong>(from Bleacher Report above)</strong>
<strong>---------------------------------------</strong>
I mean sure at 6'1", 245 lbs, and if healed possible <4.8 sec in 40 he would meet the typical 4-3 OLB requirements, but if he is to replace Skuta at Strong side OLB (assuming everyone loves Telvin Smith at weak)
he should be 6-3 or taller, 260lbs he should have the reach & hands to hold up the TE & wade thru FB (or whomever is blocking) to get at the ball. He must be able to hold the edge of the defense (Skuta struggled against the run).
I would say in the above more towards the 3-4 OLB as a really good SOLB & Myles only did 19 reps FYI. I mean he might be good but I prefer my top 5 picks not to have torn an ACL & not be ready by week 1...
just saying..
I would think that Joey Bosa could play SOLB he's 6'5", 269lbs, ran a 4.86 in the 40 (but I think hes a bit faster than that), 24 225lb bench (one shy from 3-4 olb above). I think making him LE is most likely for the Jaguars though.
Jack didn't tear his ACL. He tore his meniscus and by all accounts he should be ready to go by week 1 and possibly as early as mini camp. Have you ever heard of a guy named Thomas Davis of the Carolina Panthers? If not you should look him up. He's my personal comp for Jack and he also just happens to play the strong side. Eventually the plan will be to move Jack to the middle linebacker position and that can happen as soon as next year. He fits MLB even better in this scheme.
Quote:Ramsey could easily. Cause he has butterfingers and no real fit.
Ya play him as corner get burned by speedy wideouts. However for bigger receivers he should be a good shut down corner. But at 1-5 a bust. But far from trash.
Ya play him at free safety. He cant catch. So would he ballhawk balls to batt down?
Only real chance he has as a SS he has great speed and very good at tackling. And be great to use for blitzes.
Hmmmm....... Almost sounds like Richard Sherman, he's terrible right?
Quote:Jack didn't tear his ACL. He tore his meniscus and by all accounts he should be ready to go by week 1 and possibly as early as mini camp. Have you ever heard of a guy named Thomas Davis of the Carolina Panthers? If not you should look him up. He's my personal comp for Jack and he also just happens to play the strong side. Eventually the plan will be to move Jack to the middle linebacker position and that can happen as soon as next year. He fits MLB even better in this scheme.
I've noticed many of the media mock drafts have the Jaguars taking him, as they had thought Fowler Jr last year & they were right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdAkYCyCZv8
Quote:Hmmmm....... Almost sounds like Richard Sherman, he's terrible right?
Was Sherman picked top 5?
Which ever QB is drafted by the Browns. I mean if Peyton Manning had been drafted by the Browns he would be the OC at Ole Miss right now
Quote:Stanley and Jack.
Silent Jaguar, you and Predator or both on record in this thread indicating Jack will be the bust.
Would you guys mind sharing your rationales for this assessment? If you have already done so in another thread, could you point me to that thread?
To me, I see only two ways he could come close to being a bust:
1. Injury
2. He ends up in a 3-4 scheme and is forced to play a traditional 3-4 ILB without any real credible NT to keep interior OL off of him and they ask him to add 20-25 lbs.
Quote:Going back on previous drafts looking at the top 5, odds are 2 of the players picked will be absolute studs, 1 will go on to have an average NFL career, and 2 will go down in draft lore as a bust. Which guy(s) do you think will be the busts?
Here's a list of players who have been mocked in the top 5:
Ramsey - Stud
Tunsil - Decent Player
Bosa - Bust
Jack - Stud
Buckner - Bust
Hargreaves - Decent Player
Lawson - Decent Player, but not worth Top 5
Goff - Meh
Wentz - Meh again.
Bosa and Buckner have the highest likelihood of being busts to me. Ramsey is just too good of an Athlete, as is Jack. Add in they are BOTH incredibly versatile...
Hargreaves will be a fine CB, but not start material (though his Combine drills were incredibly fluid), same with Tunsil, Solid LT, but not an All Pro.
Lawson will be fine, but Top 5 is just too high for him.
The QBs I just assume aren't going to be very good. I don't expect Manziel level failure or anything, but no better than mediocre Starting QB level play.
Bosa will not bust. He is just a different type of edge rusher
I think the career ceiling for this whole QB class is Matt Ryan's career thus far.
If anyone exceeds these predictions, I hope its Wentz.