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Quote:Metallica - Metallica (the black album)

This crushes me because this was their first album I didn't like. And I adored everything prior.

Dead Milkmen - Beelzebubba

Wilco - Summerteeth

Violent Femmes - Violent Femmes

Matthew Sweet - Girlfriend

Charles Mingus - Ah Um

Weezer - Blue album

Metallica - Master of Puppets

Jonathan Elias - The Prayer Cycle

Paul Simon - Rhythm of the Saints

Pink Martini - Hang On Little Tomato

AM 60 - Big As the Sky

Medeski,Martin & Wood - Combustication

Calexico - The Black Light

Vio-lence - Eternal Nightmare

S.O.D. - Speak English Or Die

Quote:This crushes me because this was their first album I didn't like. And I adored everything prior.

That one was thrown from from my car window on I-275 shortly after purchase. That said, that wasn't even the worst one. Load and Reload assured us of Metallica's death.

Quote:This crushes me because this was their first album I didn't like. And I adored everything prior.

Agreed. Kill 'em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, ...and Justice for All, even the Garage Days Re-Re-visited EP...


When they came out with the black album, I was like whaaaa???? It was over right then and there. Awful.

Quote:That one was thrown from from my car window on I-275 shortly after purchase. That said, that wasn't even the worst one. Load and Reload assured us of Metallica's death.

And a terrible death it must have been. They just sold out their concert in the Vikings new stadium in under 10 minutes yesterday.


Metallica in their worst day makes better music than any rock/metal band today.


I never understood how someone could sit there and criticize and album with songs like Hero of the day, bleeding me, outlaw torn, until it sleeps, King nothing, and fuel. If any other band created songs like that, they would be praised. Never understood the hate for Load/Reload.


Not to mention, they are one of the best sounding, tightest live bands I have ever seen.

Quote:And a terrible death it must have been. They just sold out their concert in the Vikings new stadium in under 10 minutes yesterday.

Metallica in their worst day makes better music than any rock/metal band today.

I never understood how someone could sit there and criticize and album with songs like Hero of the day, bleeding me, outlaw torn, until it sleeps, King nothing, and fuel. If any other band created songs like that, they would be praised. Never understood the hate for Load/Reload.

Not to mention, they are one of the best sounding, tightest live bands I have ever seen.

Well, by death I meant musically. I'm well aware of their popularity. And those songs are crap compared to anything on Master Of Puppets. You have to admit they changed, which is fine, but it shouldn't come as surprise some people didn't like the change.


And you must have caught them on a good night, because best sounding and tight are the last things I'd use to describe them live. In fact, the two times I saw them were quite cringe worthy.

Blood Sugar Sex Magik by the Chilli Peppers.

Steve Hackett - Genesis Revisited

Phil Collins - Face Value, Hello I Must Be Going

Peter Gabriel - New Blood (and IMO the live concert video is even better)

Del Amitri - Hatful of Rain

Quote:Well, by death I meant musically. I'm well aware of their popularity. And those songs are crap compared to anything on Master Of Puppets. You have to admit they changed, which is fine, but it shouldn't come as surprise some people didn't like the change.


And you must have caught them on a good night, because best sounding and tight are the last things I'd use to describe them live. In fact, the two times I saw them were quite cringe worthy.

 

Metallica is one of the WORST bands live, musically.  Their crowd energy can be amazing, however, depending on the venue.

 

They've never been very good live musically, and most if not nearly all of that is due to how sloppy Lars Ulrich is.  I'm a huge Metallica fan, but StroudCrowd must be tone deaf.  "Best sounding" and "tightest" is something no one EVER has honestly described Metallica live as.

You guys are crazy if you don't think Metallica is a good live band. Crazy.

Quote:You guys are crazy if you don't think Metallica is a good live band. Crazy.

 

You're changing the argument, likely because you know you're dead wrong.

 

They are good live, mostly because of the energy they have with the crowd.  That's already been covered.


What you fail to admit that they are the antithesis of "tight" live.  Lars is awful live.  Always has been, and always will be.  He's the Achilles heel that's the skidmark/pit stain of their live performances.

Quote:You're changing the argument, likely because you know you're dead wrong.

 

They are good live, mostly because of the energy they have with the crowd.  That's already been covered.


What you fail to admit that they are the antithesis of "tight" live.  Lars is awful live.  Always has been, and always will be.  He's the Achilles heel that's the skidmark/pit stain of their live performances.

The times I saw them I became convinced they were drunk. Everybody sucked. Kirk was ridiculously horrible, constantly out of key and out of time.


They were one of the worst bands I've ever seen. I've seen bar bands play their material better than they do.

This doesn't fit with great albums really, but I see that Axl Rose is gonna sub for Brian Johnson at AC/DCs last 10 shows of this tour. If he shows up that could be a really good match.

Quote:This doesn't fit with great albums really, but I see that Axl Rose is gonna sub for Brian Johnson at AC/DCs last 10 shows of this tour. If he shows up that could be a really good match.

 

 

LOL. This is soooo true

Quote:You guys are crazy if you don't think Metallica is a good live band. Crazy.

 

For once I agree with you.  Although I have to say I've never actually seen them in person, I've certainly seen their recorded performances and watched things like the RRHOF performance, etc. and they have always sounded amazing.  Of course they are usually on their game in those instances so perhaps when the cameras aren't rolling they just fall apart.  Doubt it though.

Quote:You guys are crazy if you don't think Metallica is a good live band. Crazy.

Everyone's entitled to their opinions and tastes. I have heard a lot of people say that Metallica is not very good live. It's very possibly true.


However, I saw them live during the "And Justice For All" tour. They sounded terrific that night. But, that was back when they were still fairly young in their existence. It was really good though.

Quote:For once I agree with you.  Although I have to say I've never actually seen them in person, I've certainly seen their recorded performances and watched things like the RRHOF performance, etc. and they have always sounded amazing.  Of course they are usually on their game in those instances so perhaps when the cameras aren't rolling they just fall apart.  Doubt it though.

 

Quote:Everyone's entitled to their opinions and tastes. I have heard a lot of people say that Metallica is not very good live. It's very possibly true.


However, I saw them live during the "And Justice For All" tour. They sounded terrific that night. But, that was back when they were still fairly young in their existence. It was really good though.

 

Someone suggesting a bar band playing Metallica's material better than they do? Come on. That is trolling at the highest level and just over the line. I understand there are people who are still mad at them for cutting their hair and it might be "cool" to hate them post Justice album, but come on.

 

Metallica's wealth has allowed them to accumulate some of the best sound engineers, instrument techs, audio equipment, and that all translates into an amazing live sound. I don't believe anybody has ever accused Lars of being the worlds greatest or technical drummer, and while some of his drum fills do drive me nuts, he is still part of the fabric that makes Metallica.

 

Once again, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, and you clearly know mine. The other people who sold out their upcoming concert in Minny in under 10 minutes apparently agree with me as well.

Allowing Bob Rock to try to be the unofficial 5th member of Metallica was one of their biggest downfalls.

Quote:Allowing Bob Rock to try to be the unofficial 5th member of Metallica was one of their biggest downfalls.

 

I like to think of those as the "Gene Smith" days of Metallica lol Well, the St. Anger piece at least.