03-16-2016, 12:32 PM
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03-16-2016, 03:28 PM
I would think it is like this...
Qb-Bortles
RB-Ivory/Yeldon
WR-A Rob, Hurns and Greene/Lee
TE-Thomas/Lewis
LT-Beachum
LG-Joeckel
C-Cann/Linder
RG-Linder/Cann
RT-Parnell
DEF
FS-Gipson
SS-Cyprien
CB-Prince, House and Colvin
LB-Skuta, Poz and Smith
DL-Jackson, Marks and Fowler
Anything i got wrong ?
Qb-Bortles
RB-Ivory/Yeldon
WR-A Rob, Hurns and Greene/Lee
TE-Thomas/Lewis
LT-Beachum
LG-Joeckel
C-Cann/Linder
RG-Linder/Cann
RT-Parnell
DEF
FS-Gipson
SS-Cyprien
CB-Prince, House and Colvin
LB-Skuta, Poz and Smith
DL-Jackson, Marks and Fowler
Anything i got wrong ?
03-16-2016, 03:31 PM
Don't think Joeckel would work at LG
03-16-2016, 03:37 PM
Bortles
Yeldon/Ivory
Hurns/ARob/Lee/Greene
Thomas/Lewis
Beachum
Cann
Wiz
Linder
Parnell
Gipson
Cyp
Telvin
Poz
Skuta
Prince/House/Colvin
Fowler
Marks
Roy
Jackson
Yeldon/Ivory
Hurns/ARob/Lee/Greene
Thomas/Lewis
Beachum
Cann
Wiz
Linder
Parnell
Gipson
Cyp
Telvin
Poz
Skuta
Prince/House/Colvin
Fowler
Marks
Roy
Jackson
03-16-2016, 03:40 PM
QB - Bortles
RB - Yeldon
TE - Thomas
TE - Lewis
WR - Robinson
WR - Hurns
LT - Joeckel/Beachum
LG - Cann
C - Bowanko (Cann/Linder if MB starts)
RG - Linder
RT - Parnell
LEO - Fowler
DT - Jackson
NT - Miller
DE - Odrik
WLB - Telvin
MLB - Poz
OTTO - Skuta
CB - House
FS - Gipson
SS - Cyp/Sample
CB - Prince
Don't see Marks starting over Malik, Miller, or Odrik
RB - Yeldon
TE - Thomas
TE - Lewis
WR - Robinson
WR - Hurns
LT - Joeckel/Beachum
LG - Cann
C - Bowanko (Cann/Linder if MB starts)
RG - Linder
RT - Parnell
LEO - Fowler
DT - Jackson
NT - Miller
DE - Odrik
WLB - Telvin
MLB - Poz
OTTO - Skuta
CB - House
FS - Gipson
SS - Cyp/Sample
CB - Prince
Don't see Marks starting over Malik, Miller, or Odrik
03-16-2016, 04:24 PM
As I have stated several times in the past couple of days, I don't think Joeckel moves inside at all, even considering the hole at C.
One thing I COULD see, especially against a strong passing team, is both Jackson and Marks starting at DT.
I think the default starting D-Line would be:
LEO-Fowler
NT-Miller
3T-Jackson
LDE-Odrick
but then in situations where we face a strong passing team like New Orleans, I could see possibly a more conventional 4-3 alignment stressing one gap (i.e. Tampa 2 principles)
LEO-Fowler
3T Jackson
3T Marks
LDE Odrick/a rookie in obvious passing situations.
One thing I COULD see, especially against a strong passing team, is both Jackson and Marks starting at DT.
I think the default starting D-Line would be:
LEO-Fowler
NT-Miller
3T-Jackson
LDE-Odrick
but then in situations where we face a strong passing team like New Orleans, I could see possibly a more conventional 4-3 alignment stressing one gap (i.e. Tampa 2 principles)
LEO-Fowler
3T Jackson
3T Marks
LDE Odrick/a rookie in obvious passing situations.
03-16-2016, 04:44 PM
Quote:As I have stated several times in the past couple of days, I don't think Joeckel moves inside at all, even considering the hole at C.
One thing I COULD see, especially against a strong passing team, is both Jackson and Marks starting at DT.
I think the default starting D-Line would be:
LEO-Fowler
NT-Miller
3T-Jackson
LDE-Odrick
but then in situations where we face a strong passing team like New Orleans, I could see possibly a more conventional 4-3 alignment stressing one gap (i.e. Tampa 2 principles)
LEO-Fowler
3T Jackson
3T Marks
LDE Odrick/a rookie in obvious passing situations.
^This
I suspect Joeckel will start at LT while Beachum recovers from his injury. By mid-season either Joeckel has cemented the starting role or Beachum will take over.
03-16-2016, 05:03 PM
Gotta go with Bullseye and Malabar's analysis.
Miller, Marks, Jackson on the interior as 3T depending on down and distance.
What fun if Bosa falls our way.
Welcome to Duval, prepare to be hit.
HeadSlap
this is fun and we still don't have all the chess pieces yet.
Miller, Marks, Jackson on the interior as 3T depending on down and distance.
What fun if Bosa falls our way.
Welcome to Duval, prepare to be hit.
HeadSlap
this is fun and we still don't have all the chess pieces yet.
03-16-2016, 05:03 PM
Quote:I would think it is like this...
Qb-Bortles
RB-Ivory/Yeldon
WR-A Rob, Hurns and Greene/Lee
TE-Thomas/Lewis
LT-Beachum
LG-Joeckel
C-Cann/Linder
RG-Linder/Cann
RT-Parnell
DEF
FS-Gipson
SS-Cyprien
CB-Prince, House and Colvin
LB-Skuta, Poz and Smith
DL-Jackson, Marks and Fowler
Anything i got wrong ?
Why only 3 DL?
03-16-2016, 05:26 PM
Quote:I would think it is like this...Joke is not a guard. DT's would push him into blakes lap every play.
Qb-Bortles
RB-Ivory/Yeldon
WR-A Rob, Hurns and Greene/Lee
TE-Thomas/Lewis
LT-Beachum
LG-Joeckel
C-Cann/Linder
RG-Linder/Cann
RT-Parnell
DEF
FS-Gipson
SS-Cyprien
CB-Prince, House and Colvin
LB-Skuta, Poz and Smith
DL-Jackson, Marks and Fowler
Anything i got wrong ?
03-16-2016, 05:27 PM
Quote:Gotta go with Bullseye and Malabar's analysis.
Miller, Marks, Jackson on the interior as 3T depending on down and distance.
What fun if Bosa falls our way.
Welcome to Duval, prepare to be hit.
HeadSlap
this is fun and we still don't have all the chess pieces yet.
Miller isn't a 3T. Miller will be your NT with Malik starting at the 3. Marks will come in on 3rd downs and Malik/Fowler will be moved around.
03-16-2016, 06:13 PM
Right now? Not knowing who we'll end up with in the draft:
Offense
QB - Bortles
RB - Ivory
WR - Allenx2
TE - Thomas, Lewis
LT - Beachum
LG - Linder
C - Cann
RG - Parnell
RT - Joeckel
Reason: Luke doesn't fit inside. Beachum is not a RT. Parnell was very very solid (minus some mistakes) at RT. But he's also our most physical guy. He's also 29, which is not that young compared to Beachum and Luke. Luke has done solid as a run blocker (PFF grades seem to reflect this as well), and he shouldn't have to deal with elite pass rushers there. It's not like the team hasn't played Luke at RT.
An interior of Linder, Cann, and Parnell will PUSH defensive lines off the spot even Toby Gerhart can run through them...Not that I'd actually advocate trying that, of course.
Of course, we can still draft a guy at G/C that can make this all moot. But if its only the guys we have *now* and how to fit them? I think this is the best case scenario.
Defense:
LEO - Fowler by default
DT - Jackson, Miller
DE - Odrick
Will - Telvin
LB - Poz
CB - House/Prince/Colvin
FS - Gipson
SS - Cyp
Reason: The only position really in contention are DT (with Marks a possibility) and SS (with Sample a possibility). I can see us going with Marks/Malik in the middle vs. pass heavy teams, but I think this is our base. Roy commands double-team as the NT, and so does Malik.
If we go against run heavy teams, then you can just take out Colvin for Skuta at the OTTO.
Offense
QB - Bortles
RB - Ivory
WR - Allenx2
TE - Thomas, Lewis
LT - Beachum
LG - Linder
C - Cann
RG - Parnell
RT - Joeckel
Reason: Luke doesn't fit inside. Beachum is not a RT. Parnell was very very solid (minus some mistakes) at RT. But he's also our most physical guy. He's also 29, which is not that young compared to Beachum and Luke. Luke has done solid as a run blocker (PFF grades seem to reflect this as well), and he shouldn't have to deal with elite pass rushers there. It's not like the team hasn't played Luke at RT.
An interior of Linder, Cann, and Parnell will PUSH defensive lines off the spot even Toby Gerhart can run through them...Not that I'd actually advocate trying that, of course.
Of course, we can still draft a guy at G/C that can make this all moot. But if its only the guys we have *now* and how to fit them? I think this is the best case scenario.
Defense:
LEO - Fowler by default
DT - Jackson, Miller
DE - Odrick
Will - Telvin
LB - Poz
CB - House/Prince/Colvin
FS - Gipson
SS - Cyp
Reason: The only position really in contention are DT (with Marks a possibility) and SS (with Sample a possibility). I can see us going with Marks/Malik in the middle vs. pass heavy teams, but I think this is our base. Roy commands double-team as the NT, and so does Malik.
If we go against run heavy teams, then you can just take out Colvin for Skuta at the OTTO.
03-16-2016, 06:19 PM
Call me in July. I'll know by then.
There are likely to be two draft picks starting and trying to name the d-line starters is ridiculous right now. They are going to move around a lot according to down and distance.
Plus we've got at least three upcoming position battles in camp.
There are likely to be two draft picks starting and trying to name the d-line starters is ridiculous right now. They are going to move around a lot according to down and distance.
Plus we've got at least three upcoming position battles in camp.
03-16-2016, 06:58 PM
Thanks for all the feed back really hoping to get someone to battle with Odrick and Skuta
03-17-2016, 02:10 AM
Bortles QB
Yeldon RB
Thomas TE
Robinson WR
Hurns WR
Greene WR
Joeckel LT
Cann LG
Kelly Center
Linder RG
Parnell RT
Fowler DE
Marks DT
Jackson DT
Odrick DE
Smith LB
Poz LB
Skuta LB
Prince CB
Ramsey CB
Gipson FS
Cyp SS
Yeldon RB
Thomas TE
Robinson WR
Hurns WR
Greene WR
Joeckel LT
Cann LG
Kelly Center
Linder RG
Parnell RT
Fowler DE
Marks DT
Jackson DT
Odrick DE
Smith LB
Poz LB
Skuta LB
Prince CB
Ramsey CB
Gipson FS
Cyp SS
03-17-2016, 02:39 AM
Quote:Bortles QB
Yeldon RB
Thomas TE
Robinson WR
Hurns WR
Greene WR
Joeckel LT
Cann LG
Kelly Center
Linder RG
Parnell RT
Fowler DE
Marks DT
Jackson DT
Odrick DE
Smith LB
Poz LB
Skuta LB
Prince CB
Ramsey CB
Gipson FS
Cyp SS
This, but exchange Joeckel for Belchum and Skuta for Jack, then we're good.
03-17-2016, 03:01 AM
Quote:Joke is not a guard. DT's would push him into blakes lap every play.
Which is what happened a lot anyway. He's not cut out as a long-term starter for this league. He's backup quality and I wouldn't want him at Guard either.
03-17-2016, 03:14 AM
Offense:
QB- Blake Bortles
RB- TJ Yeldon
WR- Allen Robinson
WR- Allen Hurns
WR- Rashad Greene
TE- Julius Thomas
LT- Luke Joeckel
LG- AJ Cann
C- Luke Bowanko
RG- Brandon Linder
RT- Jermey Parnell
Defense:
FS- Tashaun Gipson
SS- Jonathan Cyprien
CB-Prince Amukamura
CB- Davon House
LB- Telvin Smith
LB- Paul Posluszny
LB- Myles Jack
LEO -Dante Fowler
DT- Malik Jackson
DT- Roy Miller
DE- Jared Odrick
QB- Blake Bortles
RB- TJ Yeldon
WR- Allen Robinson
WR- Allen Hurns
WR- Rashad Greene
TE- Julius Thomas
LT- Luke Joeckel
LG- AJ Cann
C- Luke Bowanko
RG- Brandon Linder
RT- Jermey Parnell
Defense:
FS- Tashaun Gipson
SS- Jonathan Cyprien
CB-Prince Amukamura
CB- Davon House
LB- Telvin Smith
LB- Paul Posluszny
LB- Myles Jack
LEO -Dante Fowler
DT- Malik Jackson
DT- Roy Miller
DE- Jared Odrick
03-17-2016, 05:27 AM
Joke is way to weak to play inside. After about week 3 he will spend much time on the inactive roster on game day. Eventually Dave will have to come clean and Joke was a bust and a bad choice!
03-18-2016, 03:02 PM
You can't just move tackles inside to guard like this... guards need big "squat" power and tackles need long, strong arms with great foot control. It's not just a matter of "let's take this guy we thought could be a tackle but didn't meet expectations and try him at guard".
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